Honestly can you imagine seeing this fucking thing before it was public...

I think you would be surprised at the level of sophistication in physical modeling on computers back in the 80s. lots of the code in the defense industry, aerospace, used by NASA, etc was all developed in the 80s.

hell, i had to translate a gravity model written in fortran 60

obv meant for

I love how it looks so alien compared to anything that is flying today.

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Damn. Do you work in defense? I'm currently looking for internships at NG and Boeing

i work at ng homie

I see them all the time. I live near an airbase where they are stationed and they used to do flyovers for footbal games at my college.

That's enviable. I'm not how I feel about long-term defense industry jobs but I'd appreciate the experience once im done with school.

it definitely looks great on a resume. there's an opportunity to get into a lot of really cool stuff if you can get the right clearances

>Honestly can you imagine seeing this fucking thing before it was public? Like everyone is so desensitized to it now but just imagine seeing this, Maybe on a camping trip or something.

Yep, I'd immediately assume Old Man Northrop never died.

>*I'm not sure how I'd feel

>I think you would be surprised at the level of sophistication in physical modeling on computers back in the 80s. lots of the code in the defense industry, aerospace, used by NASA, etc was all developed in the 80s.
I worked in a molecular modeling lab in college as a lab assistant. I remember asking the professor if he was excited about some new Intel chip coming out because it would be faster and he suprised me by saying the code for their simulations was way more important than the hardware. Better hardware jist sped up how fast they could get results. The quality of the results was entirely up to the code. An old computer could still do the calculations just fine, it just takes a lot longer. Simulations aren't like video games, they don't have to run in real time. They aren't going for higher frames per second.

>code for their simulations was way more important than the hardware
this mindset is everywhere in aerospace and its toxic as fuck

what you have is a bunch of old fucks who wrote one (1) useful script back in 1987 and thats ALL they have. they refuse to explain it to anyone and thats all they do all day. and when they retire in the next 5 years, the industry loses whatever knowledge they were gatekeeping.

>Simulations aren't like video games, they don't have to run in real time. They aren't going for higher frames per second.

>not wanting real-time brownian motion rendering at 1000 fps in your racing sims

I remember first seeing them at about 6 or 7 years old during the invasion of Iraq flying over my house coming out of Whiteman AFB. You could hear them fly over every night and see their silhouette on a clear night. It's probably what sparked some of my initial interest in military aircraft

The Nazis called.

yeah they said we already did that shit.

no one was talking about your grandma

You have it backwards. They care almost entirely about the code and update it constantly. The lab I worked in had a cluster of 1,000 CPUs in racks to themselves. It was several year old hardware and was plenty powerful. They were making updates to the code almost daily. A new set of CPUs wpuld maybe speed up them getting results by 20%. But they cared more about getting better results with better code 20% slower.

Is the Blue Ghoul real?

Unfortunately for the B-2, a lot of its secrets were stolen by Chi-Coms early on, limiting is use and abilities. Something about not wanting to use it for high altitude bombing runs because the ChiComs and Rooskies can see it and more.
My understanding is, that is why the new B-21 Bomber being developed is so extremely compartmentalized and not on web connected computers and stuff.

nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/b-21-the-bomber-north-korea-china-russia-all-fear-most-24921

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ah, well, the defense industry has the same mindset but different symptoms, i guess

Also, my understanding was that's why it was unveiled so early. All our enemies knew what we had and what it was capable of.

>My understanding is, that is why the new B-21 Bomber being developed is so extremely compartmentalized and not on web connected computers and stuff.
my man, almost every little itty bitty thing in defense is done on air gapped computer systems anymore

although the b21 is in its own secret squirrel hole, there are plenty of super spooky projects that you dont hear about that are more secret

Not really, Jack Northrop really was the pioneer of flying wings

Did my time at Edwards. Yup, I understand. Worked for G.E. afterwards as a civi. Lot's of weird stuff passed through. Just never talked about it.

fuck the government. fuck all of them. i used to have a ts, got out mil, went to school, undergrad boom, masters boom, security cert boom, russian lang. check, arabic check...and these fuckers won't ever holler at me back for clearences. All i did was go to school. fuck all them. fuck clearances. fuck the whole goddamned, fucking shit game.
more bread in private sector anyway.

too bad they're letting Israeli dual citizens at Boeing/Lockheed work on it so it's gonna leak anyways

That's the only way it's secrets can possibly get out at this point, human smuggling. Nothings perfect. After snowden and others smuggling usb stuff and data cards in their mouths and anuses, the .gov has clamped down on what is brought in and let out.
Hell, company I work for now, no military or .gov contracts, just a forklift manufacturer, has every comp locked down. Can't insert usb dongles or data cards for nothing. People have tried and the next day were walked out after I.T. snitched them out for trying on their terminals.
I'd HOPE the .gov was at least able to do that by now. Eh, who knows.

>Yeah.

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Yeah my company doesnt even work with very important info and if you stick a USB drive in any PC not only does it not work, it notifies security. Only specific users can use USB drives. They have the place locked down tight. It is annoying because we work with some robotics and for the robotics company to remote in to troubleshoot something for us requires days advance notice with security. Even though we have worked with the robotics company for 10+ years, every few months when they need to remote in the IT security guys act like the robotics guys are evil hackers who will attack our system. Security resists letting them remote in every time.

Kek really? I know of people with 3.5s and zero experience who comfortably slid into defense industry jobs. How the fuck are you getting rejected with all your credentials?

Are you even a citizen?

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Maybe the glows don't like him. That was my case, I believe.

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>tfw the US is expected to keep the B52 in service for 100 years

I remember reading a story how a father and son were both B-52 pilots and they both flew the same B-52. Imagine flying a bomber that your dad flew before you were born. Both cool and kind of scary.

This is schizoid thinking, but by the same token of provability, it's probably right.

Different kind of boomer I guess

Yeah fuck that, I was personally asked what I felt about the writings of Sayyid Qutb and when I so much as neutrally described them that wasted my chance.

what did you think was going to happen?

>Damn. Do you work in defense? I'm currently looking for internships at NG and Boeing
t.chang

>script
mental facepalm

I'm not a chang you spastic. I'm a senior at CMU who is actually looking for internships and jobs.

>although the b21 is in its own secret squirrel hole, there are plenty of super spooky projects that you dont hear about that are more secret

B3 exists

>mental facepalm

Starts response with:
>Not really

Low IQ, did not read anything after that.

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the B-2 was designed during the US computer revolution, whereas the F-117 was made during the 60s and 70s when most computers took up rooms and couldnt calculate complicated things.

didn't get whatever joke you were making. My apologies

people really forget how significant the computer revolution was.

totally

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Cooper#UFO_sightings

nice smoke stacks faggot

that CGI oddly resembles the stuffs the PLA currently deploys.
btw, it's confirmed that the B21 is just a B2 with a2a missiles. Kek.

Schizoid and Schizo are different things

thx. Just read up on the difference

i'd describe the useless pile of matlab and excel VBA i deal with on a daily basis as 'scripts', nothing resembling actually programming at all

so, yeah. scripts.

whats crazy is how those things have smaller RCS than fighter jets

there is something inherently sexy about blended wing bodies, and it's amplified with a tailless design

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That's describes my first encounter , too, in Hawaii.

based yeah poster

That is one of the sexiest things in the air.

>All i did was go to school
did you go to school in russia or china or something?

yeah, that's why the b2 is a bunch of huge pixels.

>a fucking star destroyer

It's not like it defies comprehension. Only retarded drunk high redneck backwoods morons would jump to aliens.
It looks and sounds like a jet. It's a weird looking jet, sort of kite like, but it moves normally and obeys the laws of visual physics.

>you're not allowed to know about dangerous topics until you work for us
On one hand, I get this, on the other hand you're self-selecting for ignorance in the field you may be strongly involved in.

>just imagine seeing this, Maybe on a camping trip or something.
I read a first hand account of a guy that saw a A-12 through binoculars while on a hunting trip in Northern California years before it was public.

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>evidently aerodynamic wing
>believable speed for an aircraft
>apparent combustion byproduct trail
Throughout the 1980's "Guess The Stealth" was a game played by aviation mags and model companies and every other crevice of plane nerd culture, the people generally knew there was an object that would appear radically advanced while still maintaining characteristics of a fixed wing aircraft. So no, ET would not have been the first conclusion.

link?

When I was younger, I was able to see the SR-71 and the F-117 fly and sit on static display at Carswell AFB back in the late 90s.

F-117 and SR-71 had armed guards with M-16s and stanchions all around it. There was like 10 guards per plane.
The F-35 today doesn't have anywhere near the amount of security I saw for those 2 planes.

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I remember when triangle shaped UFOs where common and then the F-117 and B2 where declassified.

So a pair of special purpose aircraft built in small numbers and no sold to anyone and with a lot of funny shit going on just with their overall shape got more guards than a mass produced, general purpose aircraft sold all over the place and with far less of the voodoo being easily accessible?

You know, that almost makes some kinda sense.

I honestly can image seeing it. Weird and goofy looking planes is nothing new, so I wouldn't be so surprised.

ungh, fuck raiding area 51
find out where the b-21 is and raid that place
i want to see it NOW

It's just a slightly uglier B-2.

Can confirm about guards. There was a F-117 on static display at NAS Norfolk back in the day (early 90's iirc) and that damned thing was ringed with guards who would not let anyone get close to it.

The B-1B is pure aesthetic tho.

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nah, american as fuck. I was a hurrays door gate guard ass Marine in moscow how i learned that. we were called MSGs. like the seasoning. Good ass question bro, i dont know. I can't even get a goddamn look bros. all its doing is making me bitter. im grabbing the CISSP soon along with some other infosec shit. I'll be doing the damn thing without them. i did everything right. if you ran an investigation id be good. but they won't fucking do it.

F117 pilot said his commander called him in, and said I can't say where you'll go or what you'll do, but I think you'll like it.

>can you imagine seeing this fucking thing before it was public?
Yes, it was in a Honda CRX ad

I never knew jet fighters were so fucking big until I went to college across the street from Dobbins/Lockheed. They would test fly the newly assembled F-22s in the afternoon and me and my friends would grab lunch and eat them on our trunks and watch them. They’re huge.

They had an F-117 on static display at RAF Fairford in 1997. It was the only aircraft surrounded by a ring of those steel crowd control barriers and had about 5 USAF Security Forces guys around it with M16s

When it came to towing the aircraft to a hanger for storage overnight, the route was blocked by some guy who had parked a van along one of the aprons between all the various stalls. So the plane was halted in the open without the security fence for a few minutes. It was close enough that I could have touched the wingtips.

I climbed on top of a cherrypicker that was parked nearby to take a few photos with a disposable camera I had. They are probably still somewhere at my parents' house

>b21
>area 51
no dice big guy, its still at plant 42

You should dig those up and post them, they sound quite interesting.

I had a B-2 making circles over my house in preparation for a flyover during a football game. Pretty cool to watch, its a quiet as a learjet.

B-2 and F-117 was based on an obscure Russian mathematician's book on radar reflectivity calculations. The USA just bought the book and studied it.

I'm 99% sure I would think "huh what a weird plane."

Fucking god damnit

The geometry was less classified than the makeup of the radar absorbent paint, the steel ring was probably to prevent people from touching it and potentially carrying particulates or chips on their fingers or under fingernails. Still cool story.

Something about this image is unironically giving me sexual thoughts. Also, What's that weird hole under the top wing?

That's how I feel about the B-2 and the F-22. Just smoking sexy planes.

oorah

faggot.

SHE HAS ABS FUCKING ABS I JUST WANNA LICK EM

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I'd assume it was an F-117 and my eyes were playing tricks on me.