What would Jow Forums outfit a Military Police unit that would be tasked with fighting and sweeping buildings while trying to disrupt criminal activity in a dense urban setting (Brazilian Favelas or Haitian Slums, for example)? I would give them Glocks, Roni's (Pic Related) for said Glocks, and KSGs. Fill one tube with lethals and the other with non-lethals. The 9mm or .45 for as little collateral damage as possible. Glocks can be in or out of the Roni housing depending on the situation. Would have MP5s too cuz muh COLD WAR CLASSIC.
I'd also give some units medium to long range rifles like FALs, but the clustering of buildings common with Favelas makes this redundant in most cases.
Discuss, argue, call each other faggots and niggers. Just stay on topic, retards.
flame throwers and m79 grenade launchers. Vatniks have somethings right.
Jason Hall
9mm pistols, and super short AR variants. An SPR here and there for marksman. So not to different to modern SWAT and HRT.
Gabriel Clark
HK416 PDW for most people M4 Super 90 for doors/breaching and also beanbags when applicable P30 V1 for everyone who needs a pistol Mk12 SPR for marksmen M320 with assorted grenades for different scenarios AT4 if case armored technicals are present Arwen 37mm tear gas launcher
Luis Reyes
>9mm
WTF would you use a pistol cartridge when rifles are available?
Easton Young
>HK416 >PDW I don't think PDW means what you think it means.
Caleb Howard
Sig MCX with two upper receivers issued per lower. One a super short "Rattler" upper, the other a 16 in barrel. Both chambered in .300 memeout. You could fire subsonics out of the pistol length rattler upper and have SMG like low collateral damage, or shoot full power loads oit of 16 in barrel. It would take seconds to swap between the two configurations.
Colton Thomas
Have you never heard of the HK416C?
Asher King
The 416C is an assault rifle. PDWs are souped up SMGs, not scaled down rifles.
PDW classification are in their name. Submachine guns can be PDW. M4s can be PDWs. The 416 can definitely be classed as a PDW. The M1 Carbine and M3 grease gun have both been classed as PDWs.
Connor Stewart
I think any AR variant with a buffer tube is too big to really be a PDW. That is why I suggested the Sig MCX platform. It doesn't have the buffer tube and with a short barrel can be super compact.
Isaac Gomez
>dense urban setting MP7A2s and M1014s Rooftop voters with SR-25s where applicable
Thomas Bennett
>bar mace based
Hudson Robinson
Why MP7s and not P90s? Isn't the P90 more viable with it's High fire rate and high-velocity ammo + higher capacity? From what I read about, the MP7 was just a late competitor for the P90 in NATO's hunt for a PDW.
Justify your answer and argue mine.
Austin Flores
Not the user you were talking to, but p90 mag change is awkward. That is really the only drawback I see. But bullpup design gives p90 a barrel length advantage. But both P90 and MP7 ammo are weaker than 5.56mm. A SBR in 5.56mm is better than both.
>tasked with fighting and sweeping buildings while trying to disrupt criminal activity in a dense urban setting
Carter Sanchez
Why don't you ask DEVGRU? Smaller platform, smaller mags, lighter ammo, more controllable recoil. Manual-of-arms easier to train, better options for mounting shit like PEQs.
The difference in ballistic performance of 4.6 vs 5.7 is negligible. A burst to the chest is gonna fuck your shit up.
Wyatt Rivera
>Brazilian Favelas or Haitian Slums Mortars and molotovs. They would be fucking death squads.
Michael Ross
M4's with frangible ammo.
Adam Rodriguez
>Glocks Pretty standard. Sounds fine.
>Issuing pistol chassis memes instead of a modern pistol caliber carbine like the MPX, or short-barreled intermediate rifles. >Mixing lethal and less-lethal in the same gun >not understanding ballistics No. Just no.
Dylan Stewart
Uzi with suppressor for meme value
Bentley Price
>how would I equip the police Grenades that go off as soon as you pull the pin.
Jacob Barnes
The AKSU was used as a PDW in the past by tankers and pilots even came with a nifty drop leg.
I don't doubt an MCX can be a more compact rifle. However your not gonna use it with the stock folded. So the length is the same.
Personally I chose the AR because its easy to train on, dead simple, and im familiar with it. Its also why I don't choose an extremely compact bullpup like an MTAR. Its also why I wouldn't mass issue KSGs. Im familiar with it but it's not intuitive. Id also throw in AKs for the same reason but there's fewer short barrel ammunition im familiar with. Nice
Charles Wilson
Lol.
Adrian Reyes
AR's, whatever pistol, and suppressed Beretta Mx4's
>tasked with fighting and sweeping buildings while trying to disrupt criminal activity Fucking teenaged autist. Military Police units are tasked with investigating/disrupting criminal activity within the military. The job criteria you’ve described are the responsibility of the civil police.
Or do you mean a gendarmerie? If that’s the case, then say so. Use your big boy words.
Benjamin Howard
this is literally anti physics... energy is literally 1/2 times mass times velocity squared
Luke Ramirez
Not OP, but settle down you presumptuous buttmunch. Depending on the country, Military Police also conduct Maneuver and Mobility Support as well as Police Operations to include cordon and searches, patrolling urban areas, and disrupting criminal activity in foreign lands that friendly forces operate in, in order to facilitate Defense Support of Civil Authorities (DSCA) and friendly freedom of action.
Correct answer is a 5.56 bullpup like the AUG or Tavor with violently fragmenting ammo like Lehigh Controlled Chaos. Bonus points for custom chambering them in .223 WSSM with frangible bullets. This is an even greater reason to use rifle cartridges. You're expecting fighting to occur and you want to give them something easily blocked by a 2a vest and that penetrates more walls than 5.56.
Chase Gomez
>Depending on the country Such as?
Tyler Cruz
not micro roni bodies on semi-auto glock handguns, that's for sure
