Has there ever been a military or LE application for 20 gauge over 12 gauge? I'm totally not coping or just-as-gooding...

Has there ever been a military or LE application for 20 gauge over 12 gauge? I'm totally not coping or just-as-gooding, I'm asking for a second cousin of my wife's son.

Attached: olB0hX5.gif (245x213, 962K)

I remember a while back someone posting in a thread here a story of some Prohibition-era lawman in New York or Boston who was noted for using a 20 gauge shotgun. I wish I could remember more details, but I can't.

The lower barrel on the LeMat revolver was designed for a 20 gauge load, and lots of them were used by the Confederates in the Noble Lost Cause.

But other than that, I don't think there's really any other good examples.

In case someone only wants to breach a door a little bit.

Attitudes toward calibers were really different before WWII. Magnumitis doesn't really seem to have been much of a thing before that. Look at how many people carried around .25 or .32 ACP handguns back then. They were super popular in the first half of the 20th century. But these days, .380 is the bare minimum that most people would carry.

That's one reason why any examples you'll find of its use in MIL/LE applications will almost certainly come from before WWII. And even at that, there won't be many.

I could see it being a used as a breaching tool more than a long gun.

Attached: breach.jpg (612x406, 32K)

Captain Samuel Walker definitely advocated for a fuckhuge caliber for his revolvers. His ideas was that it should be powerful enough to use against both men and horses, though.

Our M500s were 12gauge. Was Army. I could see a 20g working well too though

Maybe in the future with drone hunting

20 gauge *does* have one important advantage these days: it makes the Shockwave actually practical.

Attached: myshockwaveband.jpg (3024x4032, 1.71M)

No there was a lot of fudding going on back then in regards to "man stopper" bullets. Many people thought that yuge revolvers firing slow moving (think as low as 600 fps) heavy bullets were perfect for stopping the savages of Africa and Asia. .25 and .32 were popular because the average person was drastically poorer than today, anyone with some real money was going for the expensive big bore revolvers.

>25 and .32 were popular because the average person was drastically poorer than today
Balderdash. A box of .38 Special or .45 ACP was hardly going to break the bank for anybody in 1925.

Pre segregation you hardly needed to actually shoot anyone unless it was at a poker table.

>not just bracing it

My grandma survived the depression and her dad had a .38 special revolver. If he ever shot it, he would go to the hardware store and buy a single round to top off the cylinder. People were poor. She thinks I'm over the top buying hundreds or thousands of rounds at a time.

The entire point of a Shockwave is to be short and compact. Thus, installing a brace that nearly doubles the size of the gun defeats the purpose of buying it in the first place.

I’ll bet she told you stories about walking to school in the snow, shoeless, uphill both ways, too.

Protip: Boomer stories about how bad they had it when they were kids are pretty universally bullshit.

>tfw my grandpa thought I was insane buying 1K rounds of 9mm at a time
I remember showing him the price per round and how it was cheaper to buy in bulk, he eventually came around after realizing that spending 180 bucks at once was better than spending 280 over the period of 6 or 7 months that I'd use it.

She grew up on a farm in eastern Washington in the depression, and I've heard similar accounts from other people. I believe it.

Blax mostly kill other blax, so I doubt desegregation affected black on white crime too much. Besides, I'm pretty sure US crime rates are at an all time low.

My department has a 20 gauge for shooting rabid animals. Could be used to breach in a pinch I guess. SWAT has 12 gauge breachers, but they've done away with shotguns entirely for patrol except for that rusty old 20 gauge.

You may not remember life before the internet but people were very poor. 22 shorts practically dont exist anymore because even the poorest people can afford 22lr now.