I want to buy an FN15 Collectors Edition. Convince me not to (alternatives are welcome)
I want to buy an FN15 Collectors Edition. Convince me not to (alternatives are welcome)
It’s good rifle. Do it negro.
You could literally build the same thing for under 800. Under 600 if you go with Palmetto.
Closest you’ll get to an actual us mil M4 since Colt suck nowadays. Buy it faggot
>just as good
Lol
>FN15
So "M4A1 Carbine" will not be on the roll mark? If that is the case, build a clone instead and use the money you saved for an Aimpoint
But it wouldnt be an fn now would it? Why do poorfags always gotta go with the cheapest option?
Unlike you, OP might have a job.
FN shills, why would you pay a roll mark premium if the roll mark itself reads "not an M4?"
>t. Poverty Shill Armory
Nah, I went with the BCM4
bravocompanyusa.com
If you want to pay for the roll mark, just do it you negro.
It unironically is assuming you buy a PSA upper fitted with an FN barrel, which will still be monumentally cheaper than anything FN will sell you directly.
>14.7 inch barrel
>4140 barrel
>$1500
Colt socom is what you want.
Doesn't have the correct barrel profile either, and isn't marked like a military rifle
It's literally marked "FN15", The colt is a actual M4A1.
Nope.
>My rollmark is worth $600 more
You faggots consume like women
Go eat your hipoint, fag.
>my subpar parts and imported chinese/korean parts are "justasgood' as what the military uses.
every time.
It's called having money and buying wtf we want to buy.
Go pinch your pennies, you coupon cutting jew housewife.
>chinese/korean AR parts
This is gonna be this generation's fuddlore
No, how about you buy a brand that is actually worth paying the money for you stupid nigger instead of buying the most basic bitch rifle you can while still having sub-par features? This gun is NOT the same as what the military uses, so you don't even have that argument. The coltniggers are right for once. I can't believe you're such a gigantic cocksucking retard I'd rather side with them than you. Fuck you. Colt is shit.
>correct profile
It has a proper government profile, it's not SOCOM profile. So if you're seal larping, clearly it's the wrong choice.
>14.7 barrel
It's that or a longer flash hider, it doesn't matter either way you're getting some kind of compromise unless you get a pinned KAC flashhider.
Why not have an 80% lower engraved like a military rifle so you have the correct roll mark then build your M4A1 clone on that? You could probably even find copsurp M4 parts kits online to complete it. It would be 100% correct that way.
>clone
?
I have the m16a4 clone. It makes my pp hard. Buy it.
poorfags always get so mad people can afford things they can't. they have to settle for the imitation lol.
>It has a proper government profile
It is the proper m4a1 barrel, the FN is missing cuts under the barrel, and it's not even mil spec (4140 vs 4150)
The colt has a actual 14.5" barrel, and theres no reason to not SBR it unless you live in a cuck state, it's threaded and ready to go, the FN has a different thread pitch.
Except these aren't richfag rifles. They're mediocre rifles FN figures they can charge an extra thousand dollars for for the hassle of selling them to you.
These aren't even on the level of parts FN builds for other companies. Their PSA offerings are using better steel than this.
why waste money on a clone when u can own the real thing?
It's funny how people dog on colt for being "expensive for what they are" Yet suggest a $1500 Mediocre Civilian spec'd FN instead,
"But colt hates consumers!" FN discontinued their $999 FN15's last year, forcing you to buy these terrible and horribly wrong "replica's" or their even more expensive competition oriented rifles.
But the FN15 is a clone too, I'm just trying to get him a clone with the right roll mark.
And they only release 10 scars a year on purpose, now pay up goy.
>just sbr it
I mean, $200, muh rights, etc but yeah you're right.
>different thread pitch
Are you serious? I'm looking at the specs and don't see that. If you're not fucking with me that's goddamn retarded.
Also why the actual fuck are these rifles 4140 when most they make are 41v45? I thought you guys were lying until I looked. Their other ARs they list the steel, not these military collector ones. Why the fuck do they break out the inferior steel for these guns? It's not an issue of milspec clearly because 4140 isn't milspec either. What the fuck man.
Legal reasons because Colt owns the TDP, FN cant legally make a actual spec'd rifle for commercial sale, they obviously can with their military rifles, and they pay colt $$ for every single rifle.
FN's commercial rifles aren't even made in the same state as the military rifles.
Military rifles are made in Columbia SC, civilian are made in VA
>Legal reasons because Colt owns the TDP, FN cant legally make a actual spec'd rifle for commercial sale
So, that still doesn't explain anything though. Why 4140 steel? Their other rifles are 41v45, their machinegun steel blend for their rifles like the m249 and m240. They seem really proud of that steel and it has good properties. Why would they use cheaper 4140 steel? It's still not milspec, neither is for an m4. But the 41v45 would be better, and not just a cheap shortcut option but a steel with actual reasons to be used instead of 4150. Why isn't it CHF? It's already not milspec, why not go CHF? It's not like anyone would bitch about their wrong-size wrong steel barrel being CHF.
And it's not like they don't make 4150 barrels for the civilian market already. This makes no goddamn sense.
I second this notion.
>notion
>barrel is clearly not oiled
brainlet
What are good options for a quad rail to build an M4 clone with?
RIS II/sopmod block 2 clone or go fuck yourself
That's a lot of money you gotta blow for an authentic build. Wouldn't it make more sense spending it on a configuration that isn't kinda shitty?
No, because it's the only AR configuration heavy and solid enough to beat someone to death with reliably.
Look, seriously if you want something not shitty, not excessively heavy, and a decade out of date, don't get into cloning. Slap a BCM upper on a lower of your choice and be done with it.
Yes it is. Who are you quoting?
I dunno dude, it still feels kinda shitty- would probably be better with five less inches on the barrel
>>Ur just paying for a roll mark
>Buys BCM
>feels shitty
>cheap magpul stock
>still quad rail
>basic trigger
>cheapest red dot you can get
I wonder why
Except a BCM,even if you go full retard and buy the lower too, has far better value. It's cheaper than the FN while having parts made by them with higher quality materials.
Quit being retarded on purpose.
>I-it's just as good!
No, it's better. Fucking retard..
>4150 vs 4140
BCM is better.
>CHF/CL vs just CL
BCM is better.
>mid length vs carbine
BCM is better; if you go clone and go carbine they're the same
>actual proper length for the gun
BCM is better
>furniture options that aren't crap
BCM is better
If you're going for clone aesthetics there will of course be no real difference on parts. Milspec furniture and receivers and triggers all the same shit. However, the BCM is cheaper while offering a flat out superior barrel. That is fucking made by FN themselves. And of course, they offer actual clone lengths and features, which FN does not. So either way you go, with FN you pay more for worse.
In conclusions: quit being poor, buy a KAC.
Nah, I already have an LMT.
SR25 costs more and is therefore better, enjoy being a pleb
SR25 isn't 5.56 and not pertinent to the discussion about how you're a JAGfag
To bad BCM doesn't manufacture a single part, might as well buy a PSA.
It's not even a rollmark, it's laser etching.
Imagine paying $1500 for a rifle that can be assembled (with a better quality DD barrel) for half the cost?
Magpul CTR is great don't be an idiot. The choices are waffle, sopmod, or CTR, everything else is wrong. And quads are life. That red dot is cancer though.
bros I want to trade my Zenith Z5RS for a 6920 SOCOM or BCM build equivalent
Not very many people would make that trade, as far as I'm concerned. But hey, you might get lucky.
Otherwise, it's actually fairly easy and affordable to assemble one. If you're deadset on the socom barrel you should get a Colt, because they're just that good. If you're cool with a lighter profile (you should be) then get a DD because theyre CHF and accurate as shit when compared to a BCM or FN. Use the EE to source most of the parts including the quad and you can slap the whole thing together for ~$900.
I have that exact upper which I swapped out on my genuine pre-Sandy Hook XM15-E2S.
Classic
I just don't know where the fuck I can find a SOCOM model in stock for under 1600$
You can typically find the Olt Socom barrels for sale on the EE and even brownells and shit from time to time. Again, it won't be 'clone correct' but who gives a shit.
You can get the same accuracy out of a DD barrel btw. And save some weight, which is important unless you have full auto.
I really just want the whole SOCOM rifle. I'd toss a BCM stock on it, maybe swap the A2 grip out and throw a CCO or something on it
Oh man you might be waiting a long ass time then. And expect to pay a premium.
With colt discontinuing civilian rifle sales for the time being (presumably to drive up prices because they don't have any contracts to fill) if it's not already sold out, its expensive. And when/if it comes back, it will be expensive. Best option is to snag a colt barrel quick before those dry up, buy a BCM socom upper, or wait and expect to pay a fat premium.
What sling/mag pouch is that? Looking to get one for my A4
makes me sick, I was watching a youtube video & some dude got lucky at a walmart a couple years ago with mismarked SOCOMs. They were marked at like 950$ as a normal 6920's... Motherfucker cleaned the store out and bought like 4
I found a 2019 Colt M4A1 SOCOM's in stock for $1,499. Only one I can find that's in stock anywhere. Only 3 left
Horrible thread
I don't get you /arg/ fags, isn't overpaying for a roll mark the whole point?Buying 10 SCARs and then mixing and matching the parts until you have one that is all the same shade of FDE is the most expensive and therefore best.
Not gonna lie, this thread is filled with an incredible array of autism to the point I think most people don’t even know why they got into weaponry in the first place. It all sorta...feels...like the vast majority don’t see the forest for the trees.
And half the thread ended up being insecure people threatened by stuff they can’t afford and using it as a springboard to justify their cheaper purchases. Don’t know what I was expecting honestly.
>pays a premium on an inferior product to signal his perceived status
>projects his insecurity on those who do not
Are you satisfied with your most recent Apple purchase too, user?
You think I give a shit about status. You seem to care a lot more about a product’s “perceived status” than the person buying it. Why else would you spend so much time justifying your income bracket to strangers? You niggers always claim someone else is projecting when that’s exactly what you’re fucking doing
user...people with money don’t care what you think, because they can afford not to
Buy guns you want and you like.
If he wants an FN, buy an FN.
It's good quality and will do most of what he wants it to do.
That your cheap ass can make a PSA for $350 means fuck all to him.
>That your smart ass can make a PSA for $350 means fuck all to him.
Faggots on here saying "don't buy this or that, I can get a cheaper AR" are the same dudes at the range who eye fuck your scar and acog or hk and eotech or aimpoibt.
Sometimes they come up to you and pretend to small talk in hope you let them shoot your gun. Then afterwards talk about how their Anderson with bushnell was just as good.
>Their PSA offerings are using better steel than this.
I'm trying to figure out if you are saying PSA is selling FN parts rifles with better barrel and bolt carrier metallurgy than FN sales themselves. Is that correct?
>Teacup my pistol in the hopes that the muscular tomboy practicing for USPSA will come over, grab my arms and forcibly correct my technique
>She never does
maybe I should buy a Gucci 3gun AR so she'll talk to me
>half the thread ended up being insecure people threatened by stuff they can’t afford
*one post later*
>You seem to care a lot more about a product’s “perceived status” than the person buying it
Just stop
>I can afford the price of authenticity, sorry not sorry
The product is demonstrably inauthentic
>Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man
SO buy it if you want it. Shit. I wouldn't pay that much for something like that but you do what you want.
Looks like spectre gear?
Cant hurt, bro
Just go get your Master qual in a USPSA match, bro. Chicks love Master quals.
Who’s projecting now?
>all this cope
Why do you even respond? Christ you’re a fucking millennial fudd
PSA literally does not use parts made by Eastern countries
then why is poverty build I see covered in cheap chiness shit huh? stop defending niggers
Nobody cares about your PSA or anderson or bushmaster cheapo with airsoft red dot. Don't be jelly this guy can spend 2k on an fn and put an acog or aimpoint on it. It's his money, let him buy what he wants.
Blame God for you being a peasant. Just convince yourself you're so smart getting your cheapo ar and glock trade in.
All you have for me is bad faith, brother. Come back when you're ready to be real
Come back to reality when you decide to stop larping as a stereotypical tough gun autist
Probably overpriced
Price aside, would you say anything is wrong with it?