I feel like there are only really 3 main pistols:
>1911
>Browning Hi-Power
>Glock
Are there any other pistols with their significantce that aren't straight derivatives?
Maybe
I feel like there are only really 3 main pistols:
>1911
>Browning Hi-Power
Isn't this splitting hairs? The Hi Power is basically the 1911's slightly-less-hot younger sister.
Beretta 92. Two Gulf Wars son. Deal with it.
Hi-Point uber alles my nyucka
More like:
1911
Glock
XD
XD to account for people who were looking for a Glock but got convinced by the gun store clerk to buy an XD.
>judge is wrong
Color me shocked. All foodstuffs stuffed between or wrapped in a wheat based substance are sandwiches, to include pop tarts ravioli and fried chicken
The 1911, BHP, and glock are all tilting barrel mechanisms. The 1911 is the father of all tilting barrel short recoil pistols. Don't forget rotating barrel pistols and direct blowback. There are also plenty of other systems
Cant open threads on Jow Forums,WTF?
Here you go
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1911 two world wars. Checkmate boy!
>sandwich
>wrapped
wrong
>>judge is wrong
Both wrong, a burrito IS a Mexican Sandwich.
How about a gyro then? Is that not a sandwich because it's wrapped?
If you deny burritos as a sandwich, then you also must deny sub sandwiches. It's simple. A sub sandwich, if accepted as a sandwich, proves that one continuous piece of bread is acceptable. Mind you, this also means a hot dog is a sandwich, as is a taco. Now, a tortilla is just flat bread. The fact that it wraps all the way around the contents is irrelevant. If I under fill my sub sandwich to the point that the roll completely wraps around the contents it's not magically not a sandwich.
This is all a simple deviation of sorites paradox. Our definition of sandwich is vague, therefore it can fit many things. Just like a calzone, which is also a sandwich
There's also tortas.
>Our definition of sandwich is vague
A hand-food, using a cereal grain derived bread, leavened or otherwise, to contain a protein.
>hey man I can cut you a GREAT deal on this ammo and holster
God the amount of poor saps suckered in to buy .40 is embarrassing.
So what are ice cream sandwiches then? Are veggie burgers not sandwiches? Your definition is too strict. Ultimately our society has so many conflicting views on sandwiches it's vague
Corn tortilla
>checkmate
>Jow Forums - Weapons & Sandwiches
>ice cream sandwich
A desert imitation, see choco tacos.
>veggie burgers
Hippie shit not to be recorded.
Walther PP
Dairy is a source of protein, as are many vegetables.
Good point. I restricted too much by stating wheat. Should've used grain in general like
Ultimately a protein and a source of protein are two different things. Cookies are a source of protein. That doesn't mean they're a protein
Can you stfu? We're talking sanwiches, man!
Should have been a lawyer.
If a taco is a sandwich and I eat pink tacos is my gf a Mexican sandwich? What if i feed her an Irish burrito, wink, wink, nudge, nudge...
>Jow Forums - Weaponized Sandwiches
You'd be making a haggis taco. It is a sandwich, but also a sin
Every beginner I take to try or buy a gun, I let him try out several at my range. I'm in California so the options are more limited. Also I recommend "glock" types for beginners.
I usually have them try out a Glock 19, Springfield xd9, Smith and Wesson sd9. They usually all shoot the Springfield better. They also end up buying the springfield.
Now most of those I take are girls so that might make a difference. The Springfield might feel better in their hands than the blocky glock. Also I think guys would be more influenced to get the glock because of the name.
>Radical sandwich anarchy
I really like this image.
I'd say 4
1911 and derivatives
BHP and derivatives including Glock, sig, etc
P210 and derivatives including cz75
P38 and derivatives including Berettas
>a taco is a sandwich
Anyone who thinks this is a fucking asshole. A hot dog (if you put ketchup on it you're also an asshole) is debatable, but a goddamn taco is not a sandwich
Aren't the CZ75's more derivative of the BHP than anything else?
I mean, you completely ignored straight blowback family like the Walther PP/makarov/cz82/p83 etc
Ok retard. A hot dog isn't debatable. It IS a sandwich, a sub sandwich. Tacos are sandwiches
>hardline traditionalist
taxonomy exists for a reason
They don't use the bhp barrel lock up
>Derringer
>Revolver
>Auto Loader
Checkmate
PP what? Why is it significant? Has it spawned a number of copies, enjoyed long production, marketshare or been signifant to several wars?
Great, I'd never considered if a hotdog was a sandwich before but it clearly is.
This sucks.
Yes
>straight blowback family
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If we are talking about types of pistols that spawned the most copies/copies of design elements and are the most recognizable then yeah theres really just 3:
1911 - daddy of all single action
Walther p38 - daddy of all da/sa
Glock - daddy of all polymer frame striker fired
Even if some of the above weren't technically the first in their categories they were the first to make a very effective and popular design in that category. a LOT of guns are based on the design of the p38 (beretta 92, sw 5906) and the glock (m&p, ppq, etc). The hi power is a great gun but I consider it to be somewhat a 1911 derivative. The glock could also be considered somewhat a hi power derivative due to the tilting barrel design. In the end, the best designs tend to incorporate parts of these 3 types of handguns
That family is disowned
Truth.
All other classifications are derivative.
>pb&j no longer a sandwich
First Pluto and now this? Fucking scientists, do you exist just to ruin things?!
Walther PP
>Has it spawned a number of copies, enjoyed long production, marketshare or been signifant to several wars?
Are you fucking high right now
Thank you.
I walked away after posting that and forgot. I meanth the original since we are talking about further derivatives. A fixed barrel pistol that does have a number of derivatives and was very popular
Everything is a derivative of the Browning Tilting barrel.
>Glawck, Hi-power, 1911, all tilt
>Beretta 92s tilt but don't lock using the barrel
>Beretta CX4s and Steyr Hahns lock with a rotating barrel
>Steyr and HK made some complicated gas delayed blowbacks
And some weird ass gas operated rotating bolt bullshit
I feel like the pop-tart is too close to a conventional sandwich, in that it's literally two flat sheets of dough just pressed together at the edges.
I think a jelly donut would better epitomize radical sandwich anarchy.
>ignoring how the lockup functions for trigger function
Dumbass
This is completely based, and dare I say redpilled
the makarov is probably the most simplistic semi ever made.
Anyone who states a pop tart is a sandwich is basically saying that any filled donut/ donut hole is a sandwich. Where will the slippery slope end
Beretta 92 is pretty different. It doesn't work quite like the hi power.
Any filled donut or donut hole is a sandwich, bud.
The hi-power and Glock are derivative of the 1911.
Firearms technology largely platoughed sometime in the middle of the cold war.
Right you are
Peanut butter is absolutely a protein, same with cheese.
Right. All that criteria exempts is wussiness-derived vegan bullshit.
>better definition time
A hand-food, using a grain derived mixture as a containment mechanism, leavened or otherwise, to contain an edible interior.
Not exact enough
>A food stuff that would otherwise require the consumer to wash their hands after eating, if it weren't for a delivery system of an edible, grain-based product.
Maybe even that's not quite right since filled donuts and other sandwich-like objects (SLOs) can be messy. There's definitely two parts to any sandwich, though: the filling and the container, both being edible. I guess that makes pies sandwiches, too.
Is it just me, or does that chip butty look nasty?
As can a sloppy Joe/slovenly Joseph, and many other kinds of "traditional" sandwiches.
Also, we have the whole issue of open-faced sandwiches to contend with as well.
Open face sandwiches are exactly that, open face sandwiches. They're a cousin. Closer to a sandwich than a chicken caesar salad (which is closer than you think) but not a true child of the sandwich like pies, tacos, and ravioli
>look nasty
looks british
>chicken caesar
>closer than you think
I presume this has something to do with croutons?
What's the difference?
Precisely. Think of a chicken caesar wrap. Very common, now imagine a chicken caesar sandwich, toasted. Not as common, but if you chop that up and put it in a bowl it's objectively a chicken caesar salad.
1911
Glock
Beretta 92
You see em everywhere
none
Maybe, but is the salad derived from the sandwich, or is the sandwich derived from the salad? Far as I know, the salad came first, so you can hardly say it's just a deconstructed sandwich.
Hi-Point!!!!-!
>Open face sandwiches are exactly that
This makes a tostada a sandwich, do you really want to go there?
>"a protein"
So nothing is a sandwhich then because every single non lab-synthetic food contains multiple kinds of proteins.
Yes
The crouton is the key link. Ultimately it doesn't matter which came first, they're cousins. Not first cousins, but kissing cousins. Salads have just opted to use a non edible vessel for containment
Reminder that if you eat any nonwhite foods you are committing cultural miscegenation and therefore are a race traitor cuck. One should never eat nonwhite food under any circumstances
You fucking cuck
So you contend that tostadas, burritos and tacos are sanwiches.
>Salads have just opted to use a non edible vessel for containment
Why do you defeat your own arguement?
If all it takes is having bread to be a relation to a sandwich, then that would make bread pudding also a close relative, and that sounds an awful lot like... sandwich apostasy!
How so? Salads use a bowl as a serving vessel. That makes them non sandwiches, but the presence of croutons in any given salad make it a sandwich cousin.
Yes. And so much more
When I do it it's appropriation
Your picture is more interesting than your thread.
Bread pudding is a sandwich cousin.
>A hot dog (if you put ketchup on it you're also an asshole)
This should be a part of the constitution. No punishment, just acknowledgment of the fact you're an asshole
The Steyr GB gas-delayed blowback wasn't complex at all. Hell, I'm pretty sure it's simpler than a 1911-style tilting barrel operating system.
By this logic, applied to the abstraction of your above-stated rules including non-conventional content wrappers, this would also make tortilla soup a sandwich cousin, and that verges on insanity, sir!
Tomatoes, however, are an excellent addition to a hotdog, or any other savory sandwich
>Glock 19, Springfield xd9, Smith and Wesson sd9
Filthy peasants should not be allowed to own a gun.
Tortilla soup is a sandwich cousin because of the inclusion of tortillas. It is the same relation as a salad with croutons.
Macaroni and cheese is a sandwich.
You're correct. It's akin to a smothered burrito.
Are people sandwiches?
Cousins. Further than tortilla soup and salads with croutons, but closer than other soups and salads with no croutons. We're just meat sandwiched within our own skin.
user. All things are cousins of the sandwich. Either inherently, or in their ability to create a sandwich.
So is breakfast cereal also a sandwich, because cereal grains smothered in milk?
Sandwich cousin, my friend. Not a direct sandwich. They're literally milk salads with sweet croutons