How do YOU plan to handle a misfunction in a defensive shooting?

That's not a winners attitude though

I have a friend who reloads pistol ammo and in the 3,000rds of 9mm he's supplied me over time, three stoppages from cracked cases, two of which hung up the gun to the point I had to beat on it on the shooting bench, plus two squib loads, and two cases kabooming, have mean that I've gotten very comfortable at the prospect of stoppages and clearing them quickly.

>rack slide
>if not fixed, drop mag
>rack slide again
>insert new mag and keep shooting
You gotta train for this shit, user. My friends like to tease me for carrying a second mag like "What are you gon a run out of ammo?" But the chance of double feed or jam is real. Faster to drop yur current mag, clear jam then reload. That's my opinion anyway. Never needed to use my ccw in defense yet so Idk how it will really go down.

Holy shit stop using his reloads you cheap bastard. Only a matter of time tell he double charges one on accident.

Just stack derringers in your caliber of choice

You don't "win" in a self defense situation. You survive. If your gat jams and you're alone, you probably won't be doing much of that.

But surviving is winning and losing is being victimized. A defensive shooting is just like any other competition and if you've trained and have the edge over your oppenent you may win.

I carry a polymer80. The legendary reliability of glock, without pic related.
>muh limpwrist
These hands work for a living, so I've never had that problem.

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But malfunctions can happen for many reasons and Glocks malfunction everyday (not an individial gun but think of how many are in circulation)

>my guns fucked up less times than the amount of fingers I have on one hand
>this means I am trained to clear stoppages
The absolute state of gun owners in 2019

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>Do you just practice clearing malfunctions, or do you carry a back up gun?
neither. i am a wheelnigger

Genuine questions: What's the angle on polymer80? Why not just buy a standard glock and be done with it?

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Indirect interaction with the government " "

Hobby, of hey look, I know how to put it together, and how it can go wrong because of X

And those w.o. access to conventional means of obtaining the "real" thing

Not him, but if I wanted to rice out a Glock to the point it's not really a Glock would a p80 not be the best course of action?

>he doesn't carry a dozen sidearms
throw it at the target like a hatchet and draw a new one of course

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>people like this actually exist

Where the fuck do you live man?!

Winners don't live in warzones in the first place.

Interesting, I see now. Apparently you still have to mark/serialize them upon completion, but I imagine most people don't.

throw gun

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>you have to be in a warzone to be victimized
All these people CC for style huh?

THERE WAS A FIREFIGHT!!!!!

I carry revolver.

When I first started shooting a p30, I wasn't aware of just how loooong the reset was. So every time I froze the trigger like a disphit, I just assumed it was due to shitty Fiochi ammo. I got pretty good at TRB. I still get snap caps and practice stripping and rip for double feed clearances though.

Watch police shooting vids, malfs happen all the time for them. Perhaps they’re not cleaning them well enough, perhaps they limp wrist in panic, who knows. Maybe their guns are just seldom ever fucking cleaned and maintained.
Either way, it can happen.

If my pistol jams in a defensive situation I will immediately resort to a bayonet charge.

Ye find yeself in yon dungeon. Ye see a FLASK. Obvious exits are NORTH, SOUTH, and DENNIS.

>. Apparently you still have to mark/serialize them upon completion
HAHAHA no. Not in free states at least.

See 27 CFR § 478.92 (Firearm manufacturers marking requirements)
ammoland.com/2014/11/atf-answers-questions-on-80-receiver-blanks/#axzz5zzWOYbog

Scratch that, firearms manufactured for personal use do not require serialization. Thanks for catching that.

> licensed manufacters and importers

If you carry reloads for SD then you are not really very intelligent are you?

Throw the whole gun at my assailant and cry.

Momentarily, for just an instant, stare in disbelief at my revolver, praying that it's either the brief pause before the detonation of a hangfire which quickly goes of before I pull the trigger again, or merely a dud; five more failures to fire prompt my improvised use of the now otherwise useless big iron as a thrown warhammer while drawing & firing my other revolver.

>plan to

kys for each one of these you agree to:
>plan to improvise!
>my LifeStraw(tm) will handle my water needs
>who needs to carry a tourniquet, you don't wear a leather belt?
>you'd be stupid not to carry .45 acp
>breaking in boots is a meme
>I can kinda sorta see why we'd ban...

Why even bother? I put a streamlight under where the serial number should be.

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Please explain to non schizoids

>multiple malfunctions with potential to result in bodily harm
At what point do you go back to factory ammo?

Inspect FLASK. If I can discern it isn't cursed, take FLASK. Then exit DENNIS

Crippling social anxiety coupled with living in a mediocre part of town that's not far from a pretty shitty part of town.
It's really not that bad and I don't need to carry that much shit, I just really like guns and being prepared.
I carry the P365 to work because I do a lot of work in downtown Seattle where theres a ton of homeless drug addicts and i have like $30,000 worth of tools on my truck.

you can get faster if you practice.

> t. idiot

And what do you carry?

>t.undergunned

What's wrong with that? I carry a snub on my ankle and a glock 19 at 2:00.

Good idea, I think I'll try this next time at the range

You should also practice clearing double feeds. I always thought it'd be as simple as tap rack bang but it really drives home how important working the slide is when you think you've cleared it and whoops there's another double feed because the round never cleared.

Seattle is a fucking wasteland, I plan on getting a 365 MS soon. Currently rocking the XDE 45, watch your back for the opioid zombies and remember to support Loren Culp for governor

tap rack reassess

You're not a reloader are you? Due to case volume, 9mm is virtually impossible to double charge without noticeably spilling powder all over the place.

But I do agree he needs to quit shooting is fudd buddy's shitty reloads.

Rack and pull the trigger while closing distance. Hopefully it fires. If it doesn’t, I’m using that shit like a hammer. I don’t carry a spare mag most days.

If I’ve got my glock, then rack and attempt to fire. If that doesn’t work the drop mag rack twice then insert spare mag then rack and start firing and hope I’m not already dead.

Felons and tinfoil lolberts who think the gubmint is monitoring your guns

if you want to build a race gun you're guaranteed to get a working piece out of the deal if you go P80 instead of OEM, OG Glock brand parts are notorious for horrendous QC, put something on that awful gun and just what they did wrong at the glock factory is going to ruin your race.

if you are able to go to fast to clear the round you have a bad extractor spring and it should have been replaced a long time ago.

Holyshit, what shit quality. I'm here with 4000 rounds this year and have not had a single malufuction due to ammo.

I solve that by carrying one in the chamber. My pistol tends to malfunction if I short stroke the slide. I kinda wanted to walk around with an empty chamber but every semi-auto pistol tended to have that problem with snap caps or live ammo. Made me realize I would easily fuck up if I left it empty to carry around if I had to load one at the start no matter how much I practiced at it.

if you are worried about race guns, you are either better off going with CZ75 or buying a used 2011/1911.

The only reason to compete with polyframed hinge trigger striker pistols is because it is similiar to (or is) your home defense gun/concealed carry.

otherwise you are sacrificing trigger pull, barrel length, non reciprocating mass, sight radius and ergonomics for "reliability" that you won't need at a USPSA match.

If someone want's a range gun, it's STI 2011 5", CZ75 Shadow and Berretta 92FS.

Budget options would be the SP1 (not phantom), and 92FS.

Jack off more and you'll never short stroke a slide again.

Entirely depends what powder you're using, you can easily fit a double charge of titegroup.

That's like 4 pistols, user.

I was answering the question, you may have gripes with the platform in the role I presented it in but it's still a valid reason to go P80 over OEM. but did you just put a fuddy fye over the speghetti gun, you top tier fagbag? I'll squatthrust your mom's lasagna for that kind of talk.

>two of which hung up the gun to the point I had to beat on it on the shooting bench, plus two squib loads, and two cases kabooming

Unironically you'd be better off just buying Wolf 9mm than your friend's shitty reloads - especially since you'd be more legally covered if you pulled the trigger on a squib from Wolf; not so much from your friend's homebrew reloads.

I'll clear it the same way I clear a malfunction during a match. That said, my carry gun has actually never malfunctioned before, so I've never had to clear it. Maybe I should practice.

call time out

Almost.

Absolutely, if only because you don't waste any money on parts you're not gonna use. P80s are stupid easy to do.

Aaron Cowan of Sage Dynamics teaches to just pull the mag, slap it back in, rack and roll.

It skips a whole lot of steps and speeds things up considerably.

youtu.be/0P-R-yhYOFE?t=655
Skip to 10:55 if the video doesn't auto play at that point.

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I just carry a Glock 19 and don't fucking worry about it.

the same way I handle it on the range, clear immediately and keep shooting. Hope I'm fast enough. It's faster to clear a double feed on a pistol than to draw another gun, but it's irrelevant because I don't carry two gats.

it's a neat hobby, I like building guns and knowing how they work. Also I can make it look cool and say I built it.

Tap, rack and slap

>having a gun that jams

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Good vid thanks user.

>he hasn't fired enough to encounter a malfunction.

>implying revolvers jam

> most gunfights don't last more than 30 seconds
> trying to clear the jam before Jamal can get his ghetto blaster horizontal
>not just throwing the gun at them

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Tap,rack,bang
Same as always

Point taken

What happens with TAP-RACK-BANG if you've had a squib?

Hand the gun to the criminal and watch his hand explode Judge Dredd style.

This works, unless the top round in the mag becomes dislodged from the mag so much that it comes out completely when you remove the mag. Then, you're introducing a whole other weird ass malf.

I agree, I think his technique is sound, but it requires withdrawing the mag completely before reinserting. However if you did the partial pull, re-seat, if it doesn't re-seat you could just pull it all the way, but then it's slowing you down again.

5.7

He asked what gun you carry not the size of your erect "gun"

If it's a handgun, then you won't be far from your target so throw it at them. Maybe you'll hit them in the head but even if you don't they'll be distracted trying to clear the malfunction. While they're busy, pull your backup.

use another gun

These two are valid, or throw the gun at them and pull out your knife. You do carry a knife for backup right?