How long would a Gundam like this one last if one went on a rampage in downtown LA and start randomly shooting thing...

Something to do with Minovsky particles, which are basically the series god ECM, a high enough concentration of them completely blocks most forms of communication and targeting if I recall, they're also great for making lots of energy, which is why they're used in beam guns and beam sabers.

But I'm not an expert on the gundam series, so someone more /m/ than me might correct me.

minovsky particles and it only works when it reaches enough density. Zaku ii is made to be fodder though so it's not gonna last too long

Normal shit works just fine and the writers have shown many a time when it's that basic shit that gets the upper hand in combat

Square Cube Law means it is one of two things.

1. Too heavy for its size and thus collapses in on itself

2. Sufficiently strong enough to support its own weight and movement.

>120mm rotary cannon firing 1500 rounds of 120mm HEAT projectiles a second.
Good on you for realizing that /tank/fags have one thing completely off about mecha of this size, and its the comparable fire power. Mecha of this size, Zaku sized, and heavy enough/whatever enough to withstand that recoil, would be in possession of the fire power of 100 modern MBTs.

Lol hell no. Call in artillery and airstrikes, because anything within 5 miles is getting blasted. Abrams? 6 repeated hits with HEAT of the same caliber of its own gun can and will fuck it right up.

>That thing would be huge.
Gundam scaled Mecha could and should wield things like the GAU 8 like a human wields a pistol. But for a rifle? 120mm isn't unreasonable in the least.

The Zaku crushes all before it in a hail of firepower comparable to artillery regiments before 2,000lbs JDAMs batter it into submission.

>Lol hell no. Call in artillery and airstrikes,

That is literally what I said.
Artillery would be an unlikely option given it's response time, comparatively low explosive charge and the fact that your target is ambulatory.

This is no Gundam boy! No Gundam

Is the minovesky particle in play? If so no radios not guided munitions

Zakus cannot broadcast minovsky particles. That's something that would require a ship or m warheads.

>comparatively low explosive charge
Compared to what, a 500 pound bomb? I don't think you're gonna find more explosives in any US ground-based weapon than a 155m arty shell, maybe you could go digging around in the oldest of the old Cold War-era stockpiles and somehow manage a 240mm howie but aside from that, if you need more bang than arty can provide, it might be time to call in air.

Although to be fair, I bet a barrage from an MLRS or HIMARS could put more HE on-site quicker than tube arty could.

How do you know its firing HEAT?

You know what? If Zaku sized machines were simply armored with Otomatic 76mm High Velocity guns, that'd STILL be devastating to just about anything at 700 rounds per minute.

OP Fiat.

>500#
Considering that thing's size I was thinking GBU-24 at least, preferably 28s..

Ok, what kinda HEAT? Whats the rated penetration for the projectile? Whats the M/V? Are they fin stabilized or fired from a rifled barrel? What the maximum angle the warhead will trigger on? How barrier blind are they? Will they trigger on a thin pane of building glass or do the have to hit something very solid to trigger the warhead?

Really? Go back to a vbulletin board. Or xenforo. Or bbs.

Daisy Cutter, MOAB or GTFO

Answer the questions.

Not the OP. There are no debate rules here.

And

>120mm rotary cannon firing 1500 rounds
Is what is relevant.

How many rounds is it carrying?

>Otomatic

>120mm rotary cannon
How does it handle the recoil in the first place?

That's totally wrong. Each suit projects particles in order for their compact nuclear reactors to work and not explode hilariously when the unit is destroyed.
It's also why all craft use direct fire weapons. Sabers or dopps would be covered in missiles instead of rocket pods if a few suits didn't interfere with the targeting. It's why Zeon knocked over Earth so quickly, mobile suits were a new technology and half their defenses were useless.

I will agree that the effect is negligible in small numbers and many craft were more "polluting" (some specificly designed to as well) than a mobile suit

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Mobile suits may release a minute amount of particles, but it is nowhere near the volume or density needed to affect anything. Mobile suits and warships use radar outside of combat because the minovsky particles, even when your ship is being held aloft by a cushion of them, are not dense enough to interfere.

>Sabers or dopps would be covered in missiles instead of rocket pods if a few suits didn't interfere with the targeting
The warships are what scatter the particles. You could go full retard and have a squadron with guided weapons that flies around in no man's land but they would be useless around both enemy and your own ships.

>It's why Zeon knocked over Earth so quickly
Zeon had land ships and particle scattering ground equipment. They never used ms to scatter particles during the oyw, and the only mech that had particle scattering equipment to my knowledge was a 230 ton ma.

It would turn up the next morning, stripped and torched, propped up on 4 milk crates.

They have Vulcans in their heads dude.

Let us not forget if said Macguffin reactor pops its basically a 250Kt nuke.

Si

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It's a Zaku from the gundam series, stupid

Imagine posting on a weapons board and not doing basic research before making an ass of yourself.

>square cube law
They're only 60 feet tall, laying on their back they take up as much space as a common fighter jet.
They're not gonna collapse in on themself and make a black hole unless the whole machine is covered in Maus tier steel armor.

No, it's a Zaku from the Zaku series. Stupid.

Gundam from the Zaku series?

It would last as long as it takes for attack jets or helicopters to get there.

A Zudah or something, I don't know.

Getting ambushed would fuck over any vehicle. Getting ambushed at point blank range even more so. And look closely. His weapon is of MBT caliber.

>His weapon is of MBT caliber.
With WWII tier ammunition.

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The level of stupid in that graph beggars belief.

>a 120mm rotary cannon firing 1500 rounds of 120mm HEAT projectiles a second

Japs cannot into guns

How do I get into to gundam? Where do I start?

>a series based in giant robots flying around in space isn't realistic
you don't say

til the ammo ran out, so 30 seconds at cyclic.

>randomly shooting
why do you hate marksmanship?

don't argue with retards who think construction cranes can't exist.

Yes...if hit by a fucking particle beam.

here's the better version

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I want to shop at the Foot Light store.

08 MS team is the best to start with from a Jow Forums perspective. Although 00 and unicorn are also pretty good for a beginner.

Your understanding is correct, Minovsky particles disable long range guidance and targeting forcing close range combat (as in visual range). That said MSes have been taken out by ambushes and massed tank fire before and even handheld rocket launchers can inconvenience them.

Plus, they obviously don't interfere with light since you can see them just fine so you can just ram laser guided bombs down its throat.

I'd recommend 0080:War in the Pocket as a good starting point. 08th MS Team is good too.

youtu.be/aZErQik981w

Also thunderbolt for that sweet jazz combat

whats the source of power supposed to be in these anyway? given space for pilot in chest, opticals in head, and presumably complex mechanical articulation thingies in the limbs, there would be little to no space for an engine or fuel. electrical batteries would never have the efficiency necessary for this form factor, either.

>whats the source of power
Miniature fusion reactors.

linear induction motors + love powered nukes

If said fusion reactor could actually capture the Muon like we were trying back in the 50's.

It is a giant robot?

With roughly the same weight of a Abrams while being a worse gun platform and a higher recoiling gun system, yeah.

Do they sell cheap shoes or cheap sandwiches?

About the 2 or 3 seconds it would take to run out of ammo.

This was addressed in the mobile suit igloo series. There’s an episode called “zaku hunting” I think basically fire teams with javelin style weapon systems are set up in prime viewing positions as units move in and these zaku hunters aim for legs, heads, etc to disable the machine and routes they can use. It was a stop gap solution till they could develop weaponry to fight them, but it was effective. So by using that logic not very long.

.45 would take care of it

War in the pocket is a terrible suggestion. I don't get the fascination with it.

Watch Thunderbolt, pocket is boring in comparison, especially if you haven't seen anything else from the One Year War

I agree. Thunderbolt is actually pretty good has a great “there is no real good guy in war” message. While still having kick ass battles that use more than just giant robots that go about as well as I’d expect flooding the field with a bunch of giant robots in space. Also 08 ms team probably has one of the best giant robot fight scenes ever.

They were tow style missiles as they were wired optical saclos missiles not automatic homing.

Probably 20 minutes until the nearest airbase scrambled some F-16 and managed to hit with a couple of AGM-65 Mavericks.

But what if everyone had just left the room when the call came in?

watch the original TV series and don't be a bitch
it and zeta gundam are the best in the series

Beg to differ there friend. While they are good... they have aged like milk. Which can be expected as they were the first in the series, but hey gundam the origin is also pretty awesome. If you are goin for the purist vibe... do the origin series 6 movies and the compilation of the first series which were edited down to 3 movies and had additional better animation added. If u see start to see some things you like then explore... the cool thing about gundam is that a good portion of series don’t stick within “the universal timeline” and these movies are easier to swallow than asking for 5 to 6 days to “get the lore”

Yeah if you want to sit through 50 episodes plus of the jankiest animation just to prove a point.

Don't listen to this guy. Watch the compilation movies.

>Either it's going to collapse or it's not
Holy shit, I had no idea. Thanks, Einstein.

>Judah
Oy Vey.

How big are these things?
Maverick has a relatively small yeild.

9/11 all over again

Pretty large around 60 feet? They get smaller as the timeline goes further down the line. Again something this large could not move so well with our gravity... they were originally designed as fast anti ship weapons for space warfare. Quick in and out bombing runs that could decimate a fleet and fighters. Once they went for earth it became a resource and catch up war that couldn’t be maintained

The size of a modern fighter. With the weight of a modern tank.

Shoes are sandwiches, where have you been?

.22 to the head would take It down.

>Square cube faggot comes in
What a fag

Lol, so the Heat Axe is the only piece of useful weaponry on a Zaku when pitted against modern armored vehicles.

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Thunderbolt is fucking garbage in all aspects except action.

This weapon fires custom tooled 24.2 kg rounds at 1500 rounds a second.
It weighs 435600 kilogrammes to fire this weapon for 12 seconds.

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>War in the pocket is a terrible suggestion. I don't get the fascination with it.

>recommends Thunderbolt

Holy shit

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How do they still communicate via radio and video then?

everybody dies

Radio still works when close enough, most comms are laser, sometimes they use wire.

I'd like to believe in a universe with giant mass produced Mecha and microfusion, that they have laser or even quantum comms that are at least as good as radio today

>downtown LA
One Hour and Change.
Depends how good the pilot is.
Hopefully long enough to get rid of that one LAPD Psychologist.

The minovsky particle arranges itself into a lattice that interferes greatly with EM radiation in the radio frequencies. This same lattice behavior is exploited in fusion reactors to create high power, small reactors (The Minovsky Compact Fusion Reactor).

Military doctrine is to flood a battlefield with minovsky particles until communications and Radar are jammed (Minovsky Particles at Combat Density) except point-to-point laser comms. This prevents most forms of remote weaponry.

The need to close to engage the enemy, combined with the high power output of the Minovsky Compact Fusion Reactor to power a mobile suit, and the AMBAC system that allows for automatic reorientation of a craft in space without reaction mass by using "limbs," is the justification for the development of the mobile suit.

Minovsky particles are also used to contain energy charges in an "E Cap" system that powered early beam rifles like the one used by the Gundam. Before this development, only large battleships could generate the power required by a beam cannon.

Very true, but a zaku can’t use minovsky particles... that is usually dealt out by flag ships or later model mobile suits with awac capabilities. In the present situation, armor, and material something like this will go down quickly with any coordinated military. It’s a big bad robot, but a large insect invading an ant colony will typically go down hard and fast. Same here we coordinate then implement.

They interfere with visible light plenty. Most everything on visuals are a blur beyond a relatively short distance, which means computers have to resolve and clean up images using its known database of MS so that pilots don't get horribly confused. That is the reason why dummy balloons work.