Why are nations still investing in large surface warships if AShM are so advanced?

Why are nations still investing in large surface warships if AShM are so advanced?

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I get it, OP. It's a Chink thread. You had me for a second.

Because countries plan to use the ships to bully nations without AShM. Its all Tranny navy ever does lol.

because you overestimate the threat
because peacetime
because a missile can't deploy marines, locate and hunt pirates and provide a show of force thousands of miles away.

Because they're a pretty good platform for launching anti ship missiles.

Because where else do you launch those missiles from

Because the capabilities of most AShMs are vastly overstated.

>t. Aircraft Carrier Sailor

Okay bud

Because you still need something to carry the AShMs.

This. Also, having a mobile launch platform for missiles is a good thing.

AShM are still pretty pricey, only a couple nation's can afford them, and most navies still do t field a ton of ASM now, the threat is relatively low in 99% of the situations these ships are used in.

>Why are nations still investing in large surface warships if AShM are so advanced?
They don't. You don't see big-ass cruisers like Virginia class or Slava in building today. Russians are probably are only one with their two Kirov class ships.

Surface fleets exist to control sea trade.

LOL

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It was a low capability ship that fucked up its own limited air defense capabilities and still didn't sink. Not sure what you meant by this.

>t. EW operator
fixed

Because ships need a minimum size to carry RHIBs for boarding, UUVs for demining, radars for air/sea search, sonar for underwater search, guns w/ magazines penetrating the deck, VLS cells, torpedo launchers, a heli deck, a heli garage to repair your heli, a backup heli (1 isn't enough), and ofc the fuel to go on long cruise to where the pirates and oil mines live.

It's the cost of being a general purpose craft. If you want a missile boat that can't chase Somali pirates, has to return to port every other week, and depends on shore-based radar to detect its targets, ok. but it's not very useful.

>tiny frigate gets hit by 2 AShMs
>doesn’t sink
Seems pretty ineffective desu

IIRC, one of the warheads didn't detonate.

I think alot of warheads in the Falklands war didn't detonate as well, it seems like a pretty common thing.

waaah china bad

>I think alot of warheads in the Falklands war didn't detonate as well, it seems like a pretty common thing.
Usually it's freefall bombs that they talk about - the Argentines were flying so low that the bombs they dropped couldn't arm in time because they weren't fuzed correctly.

By comparison the Exocet was a massive threat and I don't think many of them failed to detonate if they hit.

>two yuan

global chinese hegemony is probably not a good thing for human rights or freedom lol

Why are nations still investing in large numbers of infantry if Machineguns are so advanced?

We'll never see another conflict that will have peer to peer combat again. It's all going to be proxy bullshit. So ships won't ever have to worry about missile spam and land defenders won't have to worry about getting their shit pushed in by cruise missiles and air strikes.

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Kicking over other sandcastles, even the floating kind, still works

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>global chinese hegemony
Only Amerimutts want to be world police.

Chinks just want to become rich in their corner of the globe and keep anyone out.

except that corner of the globe refuses Chicom hegemony and you are just that rich boy who paid others to become your friends

Spending lots of money on something that *probably* won't see combat makes industry partners and lobbyists happy.

Why AREN’T nations still investing in Battleships despite how advanced aircraft are?

Your post is a false equivalence

>There's that hegemony word again
Let me repeat: Only Amerimutts want to be world police.

Surface ships are an anachronism

In the future, all warships will be submersible

>Why are nations still investing in large surface warships if AShM are so advanced?
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>Why are nations still investing in soldiers if bullets are so advanced?

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Honestly this

Logically, there exists a nation that could defeat every other nation in war. Logically this nation should simply start that war and take over.

But this world isn’t logical.

So we invest in warships.

submarines are good for ambushes, no more.

>t. South Korean shaking in his boots

>Logically, there exists a nation that could defeat every other nation in war. Logically this nation should simply start that war and take over.
I don't think the US wants to be king of the ashes that'd remain after a global conquest.

Better than being a jester in the court of gold

No, 'murkan. Subs need chokepoints to kill, yet can't live near SOSUS or MPA; so they suck at power projection. Good luck trying to chase Somalis or raid oil rigs with a SSN.

>t, sailor who survived the sinking of the Cheonan shaking in his boots

Why are nations still investing in soldiers if bullets are so advanced.

See

>human rights or freedom
fuck that shit. Humans don't have inherent rights and freedom is a myth.

In the Falklands conflict most of the ship kills were from dumb bombs dropped by A-4s.

The Exocet didn't sink a ship when it hit one, only bombs sunk british ships.

>trump dollars

Why do other nations even bother with having navies when the USN is exponentially more powerful than the rest of the world combined? Why waste money on ships when they'll just be destroyed in minutes on the onset of hostilities?

When a country wants to war with a country that isn't the USA and the US would throw a tantrum if allied countries had no navy. Also don't forget China.

Build a few cheap ships and the USN will inevitably collide with them due to their own incompetence, forcing them into repair for years

there are rights if we say there are rights, goy!

Ticonderoga? Burkes weigh the same and zumwalts weighed much more.

Because they move things like people and AShMs very well

Obsessed

3edgy7me.

Only jews want Americans to be world police.

Gross.