Would pistol carbines have value in prepper scenarios (invasion, apocalypse, boogaloo, etc)?

Would pistol carbines have value in prepper scenarios (invasion, apocalypse, boogaloo, etc)?
>usually takes common pistol mags
>usually around 5 or 6 pounds
>more velocity than a hand gun

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>would a gun be useful if SHTF
Gee I fucking wonder

Quite practical for cities and suburbs.

Also practical for vehicle crews and indoors.

Definetely not a picrelated cuz of small capacity.

Yeah, absolutely. They're not the most optimal choice, but they'd be more useful than a handgun or a shotgun.

Yes. It means pistol ammo that can be commonly found, and that can be reloaded with fewer resources, (but is still effective against humans and small game) can be used much more accurately and therefore with greater effect. If the SHTF you're going to periodically find ammo (either lying around or as a barter item) and being able to use that resource with as much efficiency as possible is a GOOD thing.

Now I just wish there were lever guns in 9mm, .40, .45 and 10mm. Bolt actions would be nice too. I actually intend to commission a smith to convert an old mauser action into a 10mm bolt gun at some point in the future. It'll cost me a bit but I think it'll be a fun gun. I'll convert a rossi R92 to .45ACP too. When I finally get the hell out of school and start making real money.

I would like to get inserts to use .25 ACP in a Carcano.

In the apocalypse, you die.
Retard

It took hundreds of years for all the dinosaurs to die out, and the asteroid hit with the power of a million Tsar Bombas.

>small game
You can kill anything from a squirrel to a moose with a 10/22.

Do we need fifty of these threads

>t. I was there.

A 9mm +P+ round in a carbine length barrel would have some serious energy behind it, more than enough for self defense against anything smaller than Deathclaw.

nothing will happen, you will die of old age

Not if I rope myself before that

Just get a chassis/stock for a Glock like the Roni and call it a day.
If you're a hardcore prepper autist just get more Glocks.

proly best option for urban sniping IRA style

>kill a moose with a 10/22
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The velocity gain with factory ammo is pretty marginal. The guns are comparable in weight to a rifle, the ammo is comparable or heavier than cartridges like 5.56, you don't really have any advantage at all aside from the stock making aiming easier.

True, but you can't reload 22lr.

At least not practically speaking. It is theoretically possible to reload 22lr, but the brass is super thin, and rim is deformed by the firing pin, and it just generally speaking is not worth it. I'd have to be pretty desperate in order to even try.

I'd love to have a Ruger 10mm Revolver and a matching bolty boi. Load everything from light squirrel loads to max-power-fuck-you loads.

1.5 times the muzzle energy is marginal?

You gain like 100fps-250fps going from a 5" barrel to an 18" with common duty cartridges.
Muh energy is a nearly meaningless metric. Projectile performance is always ultimate.

If kinetic energy is meaningless then so is velocity, so why bring up velocity?
>Projectile performance is always ultimate
Projectile performance depends on energy.

Oh, you poor small minded fool. Energy is simply the potential to do work. The design and materials of the given projectile determine how it performs, determine how it performs within a given range of velocities.
If you've ever done any research at all, and its clear that you haven't, you would know this. Often times increasing velocity with a JHP for example can cause over expansion which limits penetration and creates core-jacket separation.

>The design and materials of the given projectile determine how it performs, determine how it performs within a given range of velocities
The design of a projectile does play a role, but it's nonsensical to imply that it's more important than energy. A projectile does no damage, nor is it even a projectile, if it's not moving.
> increasing velocity with a JHP for example can cause over expansion
And decreasing velocity can cause under expansion.
>which limits penetration and creates core-jacket separation
If the difference in velocity is marginal, then why shouldn't the difference in expansion also be marginal? Even if it were true that a 100fps-250fps increase in velocity makes all or most handgun bullets perform poorly, there's no need to assume that you have to limit yourself to those loads and doesn't change the fact that all else being equal, more energy means more destruction.

>que the 300+ posters who preach about how nothing can go wrong in this world

get out and stay out

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>anything smaller than a super mutant
ftfy

>PCC more useful than a shotgun

nigga what

I unironically loved my Hi Point 9mm. Shot where it was pointed and cheap. Gone in divorce, shameful really.

What would be a sound replacement?

buy another? arnt they only like 400 max?

Uh, Lel Kek Sub 2K? Nothing else is cheaper than the Hi-Point

Odds are, this is what happens

No you