Should I get a WW2 one or a modern one?

Springfield makes very good 1911's in the $900 range but they're marketing pisses people off and their frames are made in Brazil then finished in the states and stamped made in USA. They were also part of that anti-gun carve out in Illinois but at least they apologized for it unlike Rock River Arms.

Colt isn't very good. They're just charging a premium for a name while not really doing anything to up the quality. I had a Delta Elite, picture related. They could have pinned that little emblem on but it was just hot glued. I also to replace the grip safety spring; not impressed.

Kimber is considered a painted whore of the gun world. They're stuff isn't that great and you're paying a premium for marketing.

S&W is fine for what it is.

Ruger refuses to put an ambidextrous safety on their 1911 but make a fine product if you're right handed.

There's a used Les Baer at my local Cabelas for $1,300. That one would be very tempting.

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Good call. Springfield makes a good 1911 but Dan Wessons are even better. They run around $1,200 new depending on the model. You could possibly get a used les baer for your budget if you look around.

You can't equate price to quality. If you want a good solid traditional 1911, I'd say Ruger. If you want a nice one and don't care about politics or other marketing bullshit, Springfield. If you want the best you can get for under $1,500. Call this Cabelas 1 (937) 949-2000 and ask about the les Baer in their used gun library, they may be able to transfer it. Make sure to get some off the price though.

it's weird because I always hear conflicting things from Jow Forums

last time people were saying springfields suck and new colt/ww2 era pistols are better

Armscor from the Philippines makes decent workaday 1911s for pretty cheap. They are imported under the Rock Island Armory and Citadel brands. They offer a more modern trim level with extended beavertail, ambi safety, skeletonized hammer/trigger and Novak style sights for something like $500 or so. It's a very good gun for the money.

I forgot about Dan Wesson, good reputation. Aren't they owned by CZ now?

Whoa, I posted basically a condensed version of your post as you were writing it. Weird and maybe I should get back into 1911s...

I've never bartered before I always paid full price.

Can you barter with cabelas?

>best value line
seems to be the consensus out there.

On their used stuff you can usually get 10% just for asking and 20% if they like you or they want to get rid of it. I've never paid full price in their gun library. New guns I have no knowledge of; don't buy new from them.

Actually, that Les Baer might have been $1,800. I can't remember, sorry.

Problem with government versions, other than typically having some rail rattle, is that the sights are garbage and the old fashion hammer/safety combo is prone to causing hammer bite, especially if you have large hands.
If you are someone who gets hammer bite, it gets old real fast.

New 1911, beavertail safety which is more comfortable by a mile and better sights.

>should I get a garbage jamomatic?

are you saying all 1911s jam easily?

I think the nicer ones are probably more prone to jamming, ironically. Tight tolerances make for an accurate gun but need to be properly lubricated and kept clean. A sloppy one, greased like a pig, is probably most reliable.

WWII guns are expensive and of mediocre quality with terrible sights and shit triggers.

You can still hit Mike dead center mass at 25 meters just as fast as you can pull the trigger. Old and sloppy is the cream of the 1911 crop.

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Get a modern one that looks like a WW2 one.

Worst of both worlds

get both, and also get
>a commander variant
>a long slide variant
>a 10mm variant
>a .38 super variant
> a 9mm variant
>a nickel platted variant
>a tactical variant
>a sweetheart grips variant

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How hard is it to put an ambi safety on a 1911?
I was thinking of finding one of the black ruger ones and putting an ambi safety on it, or sucking it up and getting springfield.
I know I could probably go with one of the filipino ones but I figure if I can budget out for a better one I might as well do it.

>I have a commercial one from the 20's
Nice gun and nice trips
I'd like to see a picture, if you'd oblige

>their frames are made in Brazil then finished in the states and stamped made in USA
Ugh!

You have to slowly hand file it to fit, 1 swipe with a jewelers file, check fit, 1 swipe, check fit, 1 seipe, chech fit.... it's a straight forward process but you NEED to go very slow. It's also likely that you'll have to modify the right grip to accommodate the new lever. There's a part that goes under the grip that holds the new lever in place. It's held on by the grip.
I did it with no experience and it worked great but it's not just a pop-in process. I'm also not a moron.

>Should I get a WW2 one or a modern one?
Up to the 1980's CNC machining was fairly crude, and most 1911s required hand fitting to function out of the factory. Precise machining in modern times still requires some hand fitting, but the cheaper 1911s usually don't spend much time with QC or testing. The older (30's-40's-50's) 1911s are generally excellent quality when first distributed, but can be very worn and need gunsmith attention as well as being expensive. Cheap modern 1911s (think Philippines) can usually require a gunsmith's attention, but are a solid base to build on. 1911s made by Colt, Springfield Armory, Ruger, Auto Ordinance, S&W, Dan Wesson (CZ, actually), Sig, Wilson Combat, Les Baer, or dozens of other quality manufacturers are gtg. As others have mentioned, if you want to collect, buy an oldie, and pay bank; if you want a shooter, buy a new one and shoot, but the cheaper models may require gunsmith money.

whats a 1911 that has a durable finish and isnt too heavy for carry? I have a Remington R1 and its great but the finish isnt very durable and its a heavy boi. I usually carry in a shoulder holster or a OWB but I want something lighter. I just love 1911s and dont want to switch

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>I just love 1911s and dont want to switch
Me too.
>whats a 1911 that has a durable finish and isnt too heavy for carry?
Well, I suppose you'd be looking for an alloy frame, or a commander, or officer model. When I carry my 1911, I open carry my Government model (1980's vintage) Springfield Armory .45. I had the springs replaced, the ejection port enlarged, the magazine well beveled, the feed ramp polished, and the slide and frame hand fitted by an old Marine armorer. Although the original Parkerized finish is still perfect, I've changed the grip panels 3 times since I've owned it due to wear. It still looks like a new gun, although I've put at least 4k rounds through it, maybe a bunch more. A lot of peeps here rip on SA, but my Springfield Armory 1911 is my most prised possession.

Now this is shitposting.

>Now this is shitposting.
It's your bedtime, son. Mom's asleep and your stepdaddy is coming to your room with his nightly delivery of milk, cookies, and boner. Faggot.

>Freedom Group
>manufacturer known for garbage

If you want the ww2 look then Springfield Armory has a cool Milspec model.

Seriously with the amount of 1911's on the market don't buy a collectors gun and use it as a shooter. All collectors, not just for firearms are SUPER picky. Some freak the fuck out if you so much as clean the item.

Also unless you know what you're doing it's very easy to be ripped off when buying collectors items.

>with the amount of 1911's on the market don't buy a collectors gun and use it as a shooter.
THIS

super picky?

Do you think they sell the crappy guns?

The fuck you talkin' about, nigga?

Only because you asked

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is that white paint, wtf

Get 2 Auto Ordnance 1911A1s and gucci one out, but leave the other plain. You can have both for the price of a Dan Wesson.

Not him but likely nickel plate, super popular post WW2.

Get a auto ordanace 1911a1 its pretty much a combo of both of what you're asking about

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you forgot a bobtail variant, although i guess he could get any of those bobbed

An alloy, commander sized 1911 is as small as you should go with the 1911. 29oz if I recall. Not an airweight but around 6-8 oz lighter.

That's not strictly true. The problems with Officer sized guns come mostly from people using standard weight (230gr) ammo that causes premature unlocking and makes the gun run at too high of a cyclic rate due to low slide mass. Officers usually run fine with sub-200gr bullets.

What's a good frame to put together my own 1911 on? Preferably single stack 45

Caspian is industry standard for most custom builders.