Digital Night Vision

SiOnyx just came out with the Aurora Sport which has the exact same specs as the original but without the GPS chip, it cost half of the original unit bringing it to $399. Kind of interested in it now. Thoughts at this price point for anyone who has used one?
Also general digital night vision discussion..

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>Kind of interested in it now
It's shit and that means you are too

The company's future and its products can be VERY interesting but this product is shit tier

>It's shit and that means you are too
t-thanks user..

Digital Night vision i the Aurora is currently in its gen 1 phase... however the quality of what you see is Gen 3

Don't listen to the nay-sayers its a valid option but only as a nod/nvg setup NOT as a scope. the screen is too small for being an optic.

Its not too bad of a device... this is my current WIP setup.

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$400 for a GPS chip? What the fuck? Anyways, I'm buying one of these now.

t. paid 3500 for a PVS-14

>t. TNVC

Sorry to continue to spam this thread...

If you get an Aurora, look at the Lions Gear Solutions products.

>ASPIS for a lens protector for the front lens
>Tophat (to put a Pvs 14 eye piece
>Hyperion bridge
>Dovetail (or get the wilcox dovetail like i did)

In the image of my helmet I posted, the Enforce light has a IR light setting which helps at night. overall you get decent range and it shoots in 720P video.
Your option of 60 FPS, 30 FPS and a few other settings.

Helmet NEEDS a counterweight.

Appreciate it I'll take note in case I do get one

>InForce wml on head
hmmmm

here is my just finished setup. it's a small battery box meant to clip onto a belt or load bearing equipment. it's got a 12v battery with 3.3ah,
5 amp circuit breaker, internal switch and digital voltage readout. Two wires come out which are for the 12v 850nm wavelength IR 30 LED lamp, and for the night vision goggles. They are PNV-57A from 1969 czechoslovakian military surplus.

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Sight mark digital night vision. Is this any good opticsplanet.com/sightmark-photon-rt-4-5-9x42-digital-night-vision-riflescope.html

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It is not valid as an NV option at all. Have you used one?
I've used gen 2 devices that blow it out of the water. It has no practical use as anything but a camera.

What adapter and mount are you using?

RHINO 2 arm (with Dovetail adapter)
Lions Gear Solutions Hyperion mount and a Wilcox Dovetail

>not valid for NV at all

Obviously you haven’t used one or even touched one.

It’s perfect for nod setup but sucks as a rifle or carbine attachment. Would not use as an optic.

>Obviously you haven’t used one or even touched one.
Obviously you haven't ever looked through an actual night vision device that wasn't ratfucked.
I got several hours of ~20% moonphase usage with one a friend owned and later returned, including night shooting.
The only nightvision devices it outclasses are ones that cost the same as it, which are complete dogshit, no surprise.
If you can't drop $2000 on a decent PVS-14, buy a nice flashlight instead of barking up retarded trees like this, op.

youtu.be/QW2CBem74xg

These units look seriously interesting for a casual/entry level user. I wonder if we can get them in Canada? We can't even get surplus PVS-4's in Canada due to ITAR issues. (The few that rarely pop up, i've seen 3 in 2 years, want in excess of $3,500 CAD).

We recently caught a thief in my neighbourhood who was using a PVS-14 to assist in his illegal nocturnal activities. Ironically, an old Fero Z51 Orion was used and it saw the IR LED on his unit.

Some pics of the SiOnyx in operation here: ar15.com/forums/Armory/Sionyx-digital-color-night-vision-camera-legit-alternative-to-a-PVS-14-/18-491313/?page=1

Sounds more like you're pissy that you spent so much and theres something now on the market with the same amount of quality for less money.

GPS chips are cheap you can get a bag of them on alibaba for $100. Likely no one bought their overpriced device so they removed a feature and cut the price to get rid of stock. Real price to make it is probably $80 parts and labor, rest is for companys overhead and profit.

Does it understand the binary language of moisture vaporators?

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This uses an IR lamp, its an older gen of NVG but still good. Device is optical zoom but it comes with an integrated digital camera with some filters, remote operation and recording/photo. You can find things like this for cheap everywhere.

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I double checked and there is a little more than the gps removed. They removed the IMU which does GPS, Compass, etc. It also has a 1yr instead of 2 year warranty, and lastly it's not weapon certified for recoil as the original, so it may or may not break while shooting with it(I would guess it still works with low recoil guns) That's the only difference at half the price. Not too bad if you plan on a helmet mount or just by hand.

>Lions Gear Solutions Hyperion
W2C?

Literally goggle it you tard.

You'll need to know your pupil distance.

Anyone who tries to argue that current digital nvgs are a viable alternative to current tube NODS is completely delusional.

Case and point: a man with knowledge and experience in the field
youtu.be/CFDNEjJ0cME
youtu.be/e3SN-ZSG7ls

Tl;dr the tech just isnt there yet. Current consumer products are at gen1 functionality. Meaning if you plan to use it for anything more serious than a trail cam, get a traditional tube nod

Image quality is shit if you're using it as an actual camera (viewing through the camera is fine). If you're using it for observations it's a fine choice compared to Gen 1 NVG. There's no distortion and I don't have to worry about damaging it if I accidentally turn it on under bright lights. You'll still want to get an IR illuminator for it. I picked up one of those cheapo generic ones from Amazon for mine.

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My ghetto setup, Sionyx Aurora on the rail mount, IR illuminator wired tied to a magpul picatinny rail.

FU it works.

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I've looked through one.
The current iteration is ok. Biggest criticism is the latency.
The technology shows a lot of promise though. pvs14 buyers are going to be assblasted.

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>Literally goggle it you tard
I did, faggot. All I got was Fagbook and Instafag. You are a Fagbook and Instafag user aren't you?

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Take a look at the old Russian spy optics from the eighties. You might get some good ideas on how to improve your ergos.

The tech's not ready yet. But it's getting there. Give it another 7-10 years.
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>Hnggg
>Colonel, I'm trying to sneak around
>but I use an NVG
>and the glow of the IR LED keeps alerting the guards

digital night vision should be relegated to hunting/hobbyist use and you should accept from day 1 that to get good results you'll need an IR spotlight. Streamlight makes a very good long throw IR flashlight with a 1" body for clamping onto your tacticool blaster for like $120. I think the photon beats out it's closest competition, the atn x-sight.

Makes me wonder if the GPS, Compass, and Accelerometer hardware are still in it, albeit disabled by a firmware patch. GoPro did that with the HERO 2018, taking a Hero 5 Black, putting it in a different colored housing, and disabling the GPS/Wifi/Bluetooth, then locking the 4k30/12MP sensor down to 1080p60/10MP, despite the hardware for all those features being perfectly untouched. Pic related is a 12MP photo from my GoPro HERO 2018 (i guess they never miss huh) firmware modded edition.

The fact that their firmware is only available through the mobile phone app with a confirmed connection to an Aurora is indicative that they're probably afraid of this. But we'll see. I don't really give a fuck about the IMU, but it would be funny if some redditfag came out with a patch and pissed off the original Aurora buyers as well as the PVS owners.

Thanks for pointing this out to me, OP. I was about to buy some shitty 240x320 or lower res digital "night vision" camera for 200 dollars on Amazon or Ebay.

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That image :)

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>and the glow of the IR LED keeps alerting the guards
There was probably enough ambient light for him to abstain from using the IR illuminator. He was probably just being cocky, thinking that it could not be seen with widely available tools. Light discipline applies to IR as well as visible light.

Dont those legit give you cancer ?
how much time did the doc say you have left?

>Goggle it
That reminds me of goggle.com, which makes me chuckle.

>Buying a PVS-14 when you could buy a dual.
PVS-14s are going away for the most part. (It's because duals.)

shit's giving me a headache borther.

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lefty or just retarded?

Left eye dominate, but Right-handed

Analog niggers stay out

I took this picture at the ocean at midnight. You can't see that far out with your normal vision. The lights on the hills across the bay were totally invisible with my naked eye. I think they might have been campfires.

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As I said, image quality is pretty poor as a camera at night, unless you change the shutter speed to 1.5 seconds (as a handheld cam, don't even bother). There were streetlamps about 200 feet to my left, but otherwise, it was difficult to see without this camera.

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Reiterating, looking THROUGH the camera is fine. Not saying it's the best device out there, but effectively, all those 1st gen NVGs are effectively dead to me at the price I paid (~$400).

moons out goons out babey

>however the quality of what you see is Gen 3

Said the retard that has no idea what Gen3 entails.

>Digital NV
>Quality approaching conventional gen 3 IIT
Choose one.

So, according to Mr T.Rex, the SiOnyx is NOT restricted by ITAR. Meanwhile, the DOJ has asked for the names of anyone having downloaded an Apple Spore app used with the ATN X-Sight 4K (digital) scope. Because ITAR.

So, where does ITAR kick in? That must be a sign that the digital scope is getting pretty close to the current generation NV tube stuff.

its not good. Everyones going to see your little light and youre going to get shot first

I don't see why they need to track anyone down if it's not even an ITAR restricted product.. Seems like a cover for something else..
I can see Apple denying them(given their record in the past for doing this) but Google will give likely hand it over.
Very strange though..

Are these those custard mouthed geese I’ve heard so much about?

wish I could fire a gun with the pnv-57a on, but it's likely to damage the tubes with the muzzle flash. Maybe with a can on it These don't give you eye cancer. Just a myth cooked up by domestic u.s nightvision companies because at the time, the price point they where sold for (50-70$) these things could not be beat in terms of amateur hobbyist nightvision. I've tested mine and done much research they give off no radiation or x-rays. Even in the worst of scenarios if you where somehow retarded and overvolted them to the point where they COULD (15v+) the tubes would fry almost instantly.

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This. Those night vision monoculars use ~800nm near IR that even the naked eye sees as a red glow. Interestingly enough, the Aurora's sensor is sensitive up to "out-of-band" 1064-1100nm infrared light, while Gen 3 tubes roll off at 1000nm.

Yeah lmao. I want them to attack me but they just walk away.

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This idea is so fucking retarded. You act like every nigger is running around with NODs and is going to see you from a mile away because of your IR light.

Realistically, 1% of gun owners have night vision. In any big igloo, ANY kind of night vision is better than none, because your chances of running into someone with ANY night vision is incredibly low. Fucking retard.