Why havent you bothered trying to find someone on the dating sites?

Because it's easier in person wtf

>61 likes on okc
>like every single girl i find
>no matches
what is this fucking website? is it a scam? girls cant even see your messages anymore

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I'm the same.

I've been on four separate dates with four separate people I met on pof. I haven't heard from two of them after the date. One ditched me on the second date, to mend a guy friend who was sick. Stopped messaging her after that. The third ignored me for a week after the first date, then started texting me random "I know you don't want to hear from me again" tier shit.

The las one I described happened maybe four years ago. That's the most success i had with dating. I don't think I'm ugly or have a bad nature, but whatever.

Feels like a fucking job hunt. Trying to date in general feels that way but online dating just magnifies the experience so much more.

Although I did make a Grindr to look for traps and I STILL get at least one message per hour from dudes. Apparently im irresistible to gay dudes

I only swipe right to hot women. I have multiple matches of really attractive women.

Everyone I message pretty much messages me back. But I noticed a trend where they tend to quit responding after 2 replies.

Last girl replied twice then unmatched me. I think it is because I sent 2-3 mini-paragraph long messages to her 1-2 sentence replies. probably came off as needy. She was really hot, so sad to see her unmatch me.

I just matched with a new girl. I know I should message her right away but it's late and I am apathetic.

I did go on one date this year from tinder with a hot girl. It went to two dates and I kissed her. She then agreed to a third date and ghosted me.

feel free to AMA

read the papers. it is a scam.

literally same thing as me Oregon

>girls cant even see your messages anymore

what

I am concerned about the possibility that nobody desirable could be on these sites. In particular I find it hard to believe I could possibly get along and want to be with a person who doesn't understand what it means to be a robot - or worse, a full-on roastie -.
Pretty soon I'll try it, though. Better try and fail than not try at all.

Not over her yet...

Apparently new measure they put in place because?????, eitherway it is designed such that it's virtually impossible for anyone but a 10/10 chad to get a message delivered to a girl.

They never answer because they're women and therefore their inboxes are full. I will never be the best of the hundred men that try to get with a girl worth having.

lol this shit is actually what blackpilled me to give up. literal 2/10's who are on there forever waiting for chad thundercock and will not reply to anything to below that. Like I'm an average dude, and yet get like 2 out of 100 messages responded to

Do you know that OKCupid stopped showing messages to women, unless they message or like the guy first?

>Apparently new measure they put in place because?????, eitherway it is designed such that it's virtually impossible for anyone but a 10/10 chad to get a message delivered to a girl.
Oh yeah, I mentioned it here: - didn't read the thread before I posted.

The best thing is that they boast about people matching and replying to each other's messages more often now. No fucking shit.

I know I have nothing to gain so it would be a sunk time investment

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straight white women were getting bombarded with too much messages. literally

I wasn't even brave enough to put my picture online

dating sites (and just dating) dont work if you're my height (5'4)

Can confirm. I made a fake account once for research purposes. I made a really 'average' account with a half a dozen 'red flags'. I still got over 100 messages before the end of the weekend. Most of them were just 'hey', several of them were very rapey, and a couple were like short stories.

you can't see height through tinder profile :^)

I don't understand what's wrong with me, guys. I really want to be fucking normal. I have a job, I go to school, I have a car, an apartment, people have given me compliments on my looks and "confidence"; yet, I can't find any friends or a gf. How do you get beyond being an acquaintance with people? I feel so damn lonely at this point. I tried tinder, pof, and okc, but no luck.

And before someone replies to me talking about how I should have goals besides having a gf or friends, I obviously do have other goals, but I still feel lonelier every year.

I have never seen a woman who interested me in the slightest on a dating website. Every profile is as generic as the other; or else the ones that do stand out only do so in a bad way. I have never seen a woman who in the least ways struck me as exceptionally intelligent, which is what I prize more than any thing.

Now seems like the worst time in modern history to be a short guy: women's options have expanded ridiculously and height is one of the first things they make a requirement to narrow it down. Ironically being short is arguably more physically advantageous due to the non-sexual/aesthetic benefits of being taller being made redundant. Sad.

They actually admit to scamming people. Sometimes they lie about match rates to get you into bad relationships. If you pay money, you show up first, also.

And if you pay money, you can see who likes jew.

Maybe try reading tips about how to approach women
Or see a flirting counselor or something

I can approach people just fine and make small talk. It's actually getting beyond that point that makes no sense to me. What do you say? What do you do? How do people become friends? Let alone a romantic partner?

my uncle married the japanese flight attendant he met over eHarmony within 3 months of meeting. I know it's anecdotal but if I were older/a virgin/desperate I definitely wouldn't give it a miss.
-user

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Wasn't there a dating site catered to Jow Forums? I forgot the name of it. Anyone know what I'm talking about?

>How do you get beyond being an acquaintance with people?
For me, I couldn't make friends until I stopped caring what people thought about me so much. But I went too far, and now I don't have any friends cause I stopped communicating with anyone.

You have to find that middle-ground, where you're not so insecure that you're only willing to talk to people about the weather. Like, if you want to tell a raunchy joke, don't hold back cause you think it will be offensive. It genuinely will offend some people, but every so often it will make you closer to others. Just don't go so far down the "not caring about other people" route that your not so apathetic that you stop talking to people at all.

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Every girl's profile has some combination of these red flags
>single mom (bonus points if the kids are half-breeds)
>fat, double red flag if her profile also says she is only into fit/athletic guys
>liberal as fuck
>sexuality is anything besides straight or bisexual
>has a meme degree and works a dead end job, guaranteeing she is indebted to the student loan Jew for life
>"I used to be wild but I'm ready to settle down now"
>wants an open relationship
Then if you somehow manage to find a unicorn who doesn't seem like a terrible cunt you have to hope your message stands out among the 492 other messages she receives that day, and if you somehow make it past that hurdle you can still get cucked by something stupid like you both work completely opposite schedules or she is moving far away soon or some Chad swoops in.

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Ah, I guess that makes sense, user. It seems a lot easier said than done though, plus that cuts my prospects in half since HR would be up my ass if I did anything like that at work. I might be able to do this with the guys in some of my classes though. Not sure how I'd get a gf though, basically all my classes are dudes now, save a few.

i have 2k matches and everyones ugly but a few

are there any better sites

I've used almost every dating profile on the planet. Here's my breakdown:

OKC: Used to be decent, but pretty shit now. Filled with overweight women seeking poly relationships because they can't keep a stable partner. Any decent prospects left years ago because they got tired of being spammed hundreds of messages. I've had some success here, but you have to work for it.

PoF: Has never been good. Because of it's budget setup people literally spam women constantly and they can't handle it. Half of the profiles are 'ghosts'.

Match: Literally a scam. Like, look it up. Fake profiles and algorithms designed to make you sign in and take your money.

eHarmony: Had good success here. Because you have to pay (and the women do too), there are almost no fake accounts. And because you have to jump through so many hoops to talk to people, you get a lot more women who actualy want to date.

Tinder: Had much success here, but you have to know how to play the game. Do some research (Or you can ask me questions if you care). I wasn't banging models, but I got my dick wet with a minimum of effort.

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They're just showing you who's on your level user....

Thats not how it works but okay

It's about looks when your using those sites. It's like a shopping mall for women to go and get hundreds of likes, then sift through them and find the chadliest ones

Okcupid lies to people about things and is shady and owns all the free dating websites and doesn't let old people even fuck younger but okay.

So edating only?

Too afraid that I might meet or be seen by someone that I knew in high school or in the past in general.

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>Can confirm. I made a fake account once for research purposes
This is why I don't do dating sites.

I was on this site. Maybe I could have got a gf but I got banned. Talked to many girls on the site. Some responded but weren't interested. Got pretty many numbers but heres how it went basically with the 5 I can remember.

>girl 1
>5/10
>kinda cute but she is far away
>end up not talking to her after awhile cause there was another girl i was more interested in
>girl 2
>cool girl who was near my school at the time
>we talk alot and shes nice
>we setup a plan to meet
>the day before she texts me and says she is having 2nd thoughts and doesn't want to meet
>says we can be friends
>tell her thats cool we can keep talking like friends then
>never text her again
>girl 3
>girl was a 7/10
>actually did some modeling
>we actually met up and went on a date
>tried to keep convo going but it was dying so i bailed
>she followed me outside and i gave her a hug and said goodbye
>text her later and she says she is surprised i talked to her
>says i didn't kiss her so she thought i didn't like her
>later go on her fb and see she put another guys name with hearts
>slow ghosts me
>girl 4
>girl went to my school
>not very attractive
>we talk a bit
>one day out of the blue she texts me to come to her dorm to watch horror movie marathon
>i'm a commuter student and live kinda far
>it goes all week long so i tell her i'll come the following day
>that day comes
>text her to figure out where to meet her
>no response
>drive home
>she texts me later saying she is so sorry her dad didn't pay the phone bill and her phone got shut off
>not sure what happened but we ended up never meeting in person
>girl 5
>texts me every day
>we talk a ton
>slowly learn she is very depressed about being single and thinks she will never be married
>eventually just is using me as an emotional tampon
>sends me a pic in bra and underwear and always likes to mention shes in the bath but never sends me any nudes
>can never commit to a date

And later I got drunk and got banned for commenting on girls tits.

>>And later I got drunk and got banned for commenting on girls tits.
It's incredible that they even started banning people, when I was on OKCupid years ago, they had a forum and you could troll freely, and message whatever you want to whomever you want. It was really fun.

Lol funny thing was some girl with big tits I commented on actually responded. All I said to her was how big are your tits? And she told me shes actually only 16 years old but i'm really hot(i'm like a 5/10 if that)

Tried online dating for two years, it's a waste of time.

I have tried literally every one of them and they don't work

Homosexuals have no standards. I have been stalked and harassed despite telling them I am straight yet not a single woman would approach me or reply to my messages.

Because I think I would have a better chance in real life. I'm ugly as shit and take bad pictures and I don't have friends, social media, or anything interesting about me to hook women to respond. I'd have a better chance just bumping into a woman and trying to seduce her. Over the internet, I'm worthless. The meat market that is dating sites is skewed towards woman. They can browse that shit all day. I'm garbage slop compared to other men. There would be no responses or messages to me. Not only that, but people can meme me and take my info.

I just can't present myself over the internet and be attractive.

im on tinder, shit works great. pussi weekly bc im not a loser like you

Okcupid seemed kinda shitty and full of not craycrays and not very attractive ppl.
Seriously, Tinder seemed better to me, had a few okay one-off dates from there, and now I think I got a real crush on a girl I met with 4 times off there.
Wish me luck robots I don't wanna fuck this up!

Meeting girls IRL works way better. They are far more forgiving. I have seen really ugly guys with cute girls and I am sur

i have and I they call me creepy and a weirdo

Just get drunk.
Yeah it probably won't work out most of the time.
But I gut drunk my last first date and rambled about all my insecurities and it ended with kissing (although i kinda felt like that dog m.youtube.com/watch?v=v3aFfz-2jEY ) and future dates. Just keep a sense of gallows' humor ready for the times it doesn't work out.

>What do you say? What do you do? How do people become friends? Let alone a romantic partner?
These are the questions that keep me up at night

I didn't know this. What the fuck.

Because I'm still in college. And I'm not a recluse or anything - I have tons of friends, many of them girls. And, as far as I can tell, I don't just submit to them like a pussy-boy beta. Even so, no girls have ever liked me, save for one ugly Korean. I guess one is enough to make me a hypocrite, but still, it's infuriating.

Grindr
Oregani