Music makes you retarded. It enters your psyche and consumes your attention and mental energy like a virus. You are thinking about music, humming it, as you do your work, as you walk down the street. It consumes your attention and pulls you away the reality of your surroundings.
No wonder so many musicians kill themselves. So my question to you bots is, have you gone NO.TUNE yet??? When you remove music from your life, you become better. It cures your depression, ADD, ADHD, and autism. It allows you to focus on the world once more.
I can tell a autistic engineering major made this thread. Literally nobody would act this autistic, even ironically, unless they spent all day making bridges out of spaghetti noodles
Caleb Hughes
I do not think so bud i have been a loser all my life only found some music last year
Ryan Walker
My guess is you're not mad about music, you're mad that musical knowledge prevents you from doing something meaningful. Just remember that music can be meaningful too, and a wandering mind is not necessarily something to immediately scold.
Lincoln Foster
Finding music is the next step towards full autism. Enjoy your preachy unscientific lyrics and patterned noises, bot.
Liam Lee
No. I listened to music for like a decade. When I stopped, I noticed I became happier and more aware of whats happening in my community. I wouldnt trust a wandering mind to perform a nephrectomy, that's for sure. Music is a distraction from mental clarity and true happiness. The sooner people realize this, the sooner we have a society less obsessed with feeling good and "expressing" their random emotions and more focused on science and health.
Brody Collins
that sounds alot like the "no fap" horse shit story. as a musician I can tell you yes. it DOES pull you away from this reality, however learning to play an instrument (which involves continues concentration) increases your levels of concentration. as a robot I can tell you that being pulled away from this reality is not a bat thing. concentration literally means blocking out everything else but one thing, so walking down the street with no concentration would be walking down the street with ADD, ADHD, and autism. did you put any research into this post? please stop misleading my fellow bots and get of my board you fucking normie.
There is some truth to this, but I need music to block or wash up all the other bad things in my head.
Joshua Wood
Why do so many musicians end up killing themselves and why are so many musicians brain dead stoners?
Gabriel Phillips
Why do you find happiness or tools used to induce it to be unworthy?
Don't get me wrong, obsession with music or art can be bad in its own way, and certainly pursuing truth or a more concretely useful tool is always welcome. At the same time, I get the feeling you see any consumption to be a pathological pursuit, and I don't fully understand that.
Evan Walker
My child, music exacerbates the rumination of bad things in your head. Let me explain...
When you listen to music, it reinforces neural pathways that are linked to immediate emotions, and the more you do this, the more your brain's default mode of operation becomes to process everything emotionally. When you go off music, your brain gradually begins to quiet, and becomes less dependent on emotional understanding. In its place, your mathematical and scientific brain begins to take over, and you will naturally take better care of your health, and be more emotionally neutral (which is the essence of good mental health... not "happiness", as happiness is just the flip side of depression, aka emotionality.)
Why are so many musicians physically unfit? They're usually disgustingly skinny. Their "concentration" on their musical "craft" makes them forget to eat. Musicians die young, and exceot for the lucky few, they mostly live perpetually in poverty. Music is the disease that robs millions of young men and women of mental health, and nobody even notices. Same goes for classical and jazz musicians, not just rockers and rappers.
Levi Collins
oh goddamn it not the amusical shit again it was a joke. the pasta was a fucking joke and the guy who wrote it admitted as much
fuck me
Jonathan Scott
True happiness is good mental health...which means being emotionally neutral. Happiness as we culturally understand it places emotions as a human's primary gague of right and wrong, which is not correct. "Inducing happiness" means taking limited time away from scientific inquiry. Wether you do this with alcohol, huffing paint, idle chatter or music makes little difference. The result is the same... wasted scientific potential for the sake of noise and inebriation.
Lincoln Murphy
What is the higher end of scientific inquiry?
Jackson Edwards
Music is the only way I can focus, though. If I don't listen to music I feel much less disconcerted and can't get into things as easily.
Cooper Gray
Immortality. Every second spent consuming/creating music is a second spent allowing your loved ones to die.
Nathan James
What's the point of immortality one science has been exhausted?
Noah Fisher
*once
my keyboard and I suck cocks
Aaron Kelly
Then we can listen to music.
Blake Bailey
I've been doing no music for a long time now, but what do I do in cases where music is being played over a speaker system in a store? Because those are the songs that infect my mind and repeat themselves over and over against my will.
Lincoln Robinson
Why are you not participating in science right now then?
Angel Ward
The free market constantly assaults you with their audio equipment, numbing your ability to think clearly as you shop and influencing your emotions to "feel good" about your impending purchase. Do not enter these stores. Music is one of the anarcho-capitalist ways of reinforcing their consumerist wage-slavery agenda / your consumerist wage-slavery behavior. Just listen to all the songs that encourage its listener to waste money at "da club" and to "fall in love" (ie enter an interpersonal relationship predicated on the expectation of consumerism and private wealth.)
Dont let them infect you. The stores play loud music as their consumerist anthem. Fight back. Create and enforce noise pollution laws through your local government. Destroy their sound systems if you are so inclined.
Advocating for science is a necessary side project to further assist in the proliferation of scientific interest in the general public. We need more scientists and less musicians. I am doing humanity's work in the long run by engaging with you.
>I am doing humanity's work in the long run by engaging with you.
You're on an Indian sockpuppet and semi-straight lines pornography site advocating for science, is that the best use of your time for the higher end of scientific progress? Seems like a waste when you can take this obvious free time to submit yourself as a subject for academic research.
Kevin Ross
Enjoy a life without experiencing the one of the most meaningful things in a human life : beauty. You sound like the typical cock coo head thinking that sex would make you dumber so you have to get rid of it completely. Its a wonderful thing that makes you more human. Sure abusing it would be bad but isnt everything just like that? Anyway i hope you live a life of absolute robotdom where you try your best to block out the thing that matters the most
Colton Bailey
>thing that matters the most Oxygen? I'll take it over Bohemian Rhapsody any day.
Beauty? By who's standard? Why do you assume everybody finds music to be "beautiful"? I don't. I find it irritating, from Kendrik Lamar to Bach's Brandenburg Concertos. It's all shite.
Matthew Fisher
>literally unable to understand something most of the population can You are projecting OP
Ryan Nelson
Wait, no, hold on. You didn't answer this.
You gave me this maxim that scientific inquiry should be the higher end of our actions. Give me a straight answer on what happens after 'science' is exhausted. what happens after humans measure, analyze, and categorize every molecule, living thing, planet, and whatnot you have. If you are capable of judging which 'ends' are to be objectively 'worthy' of focus, you should at least explain what end we strive for afterward.
Carter Morgan
Every sentiment you've expressed has completely changed my views -thank you for opening my eyes to this truth- I now entirely and whole heartedly relize the need for abortions and only wish your mother had been enlightened with this information before your conception.
What am I misunderstanding? Music? I understand music. And I am challenging its perceived value in society, precisely because its effect on society is so often unchallenged, and accepted, if not exalted, as a triumph of culture. It's sad that more people know the names of musicians than they know of people like physicists or cardiologists. And part of my argument is music has long taken over such a massive part of the collective human psyche that it impedes our appreciation, if not the development, of everything that is ACTUALLY improving humanity's quality of life (namely math and science.) I understand music is amusing, entertaining, fun, "beautiful." But the sirens' song leads seagoers to their watery deaths do they not? Enchanted and intoxicated by beauty and pleasure, and soon you're lying in a hospital bed, awaiting a liver transplant, completely oblivious to the medical work that went into making it possible for you DESPITE music's constant distraction to human attention and endeavor.
Levi Williams
Oh I get it, scientist's salty gotcha
Adam Brown
music is 90% promoted by jews is just another zionist method for mass controlling that is why I always where earplugs because their "music" is everywhere, as their porn, as their social media, as TV, as movies, as pretty much everything we consume today... they won the war they rule the world, only the ones who step away of their controlling tactics can see it, is scary as hell
Nathan Ramirez
I think the problem is that the op is too smart I mean he is a scientist
Colton Phillips
After immortality and full objectivity is reached, then you can play all the music you want. My point is, playing music now is to be complicit in the suffering of millions of people through illness and bad nutrition, and frankly, complicit in your own demise as you fail to find cures for disease and prolong longevity because you need your jollies fixed right now.
When science is exhausted, humanity will quite likely have free reign over essentially all matter. You can listen to music and jack off to trap threads for all eternity. Or do something else, idc.
Parker Brooks
OP most of us(if not all) are not smart enough to find a cure immortality. I think you might be crazy.
James Thompson
This guy gets it. Thank you.
Thank you. Its not a problem as much as it is an aspect of society that has concerned me precisely because no one else seems to be concerned by it or openly challenges it. I'm merely trying to facilitate discussion of what we may be taking for granted. I really don't mean to offend anyone. I'm just trying to express a concern I have.
Jonathan Clark
this level of redpill
Asher Lee
I doubt I'm "crazy". You're correct, most of us are not smart enough individually to cure illnesses and ensure immortality. But our collective knowledge and efforts (which speed up and become more efficient when more of us choose to use our attention and energy co-operatively ) may bring us to cures much faster. My point is the seductive lure of music and the arts MAY be, just MAY be, emotionally ensnaring potentially good scientists/doctors/mathemeticians to lives that are instead dedicated to making noise and pretending to be profound in some subjective nonsensical way only teenagers with disposable income seem to understand. Is that REALLY such an outlandish concern to have?
Well this is true at some point Trap, Hip Hop, dubstep, sad music, and all that shit like gucci gang, justin bieber or katy parry actually does brain damage. That's why i only listen to classical music.
Cameron Martin
Stop this science meme already. Have you ever heard of Heidegger's lecture on technology? Science's being viewed as humanity's greatest achievement, senselessly making progress ad infinitum with the notion that it "improves humanity". No. We believe it will magically cure all our problems while in reality we'll just reach AI singularity and end up a cyberpunk dystopia.
Levi Murphy
You are pulling out of your ass some really retarded statement. I dare you do this in front of a crowd of competent musicians and not get rekt in a few seconds. What people choose to care about isnt music's fault, but the people themselves. And if they are "intoxicated" by music then they are the ones to be blamed entirely on. Your same argument can be added to people obsessed over science and math, so drawn by it that many times it leads them to be soulless shells. They act like a machine and dont seem to give a care about the human emotion from themselves and others, which is the force behind every action. Also, just as science improves the physical health of an average person, art is made to improve the mental state of a human being, bringing people together. Every country has at least one national anthem, many pieces of culture from the past that needed to be protected. And music can be philosophical as well if the musician is competent enough. Wise, short and poetic, many songs describe the lives and surrouding around them, give the listeners new perspective that they may not familiar with. Are you implying that all work of literature is nonsensical and should not be obsessed over? Life is inheriently meaningless and the only way to actually fill that void is to live content with yourself. Equipments can prolong your life a few years, but in the end we are all equal in death. Im not saying science is dumb, just that it is on the same level as any kind of art. There are many scientists out there who im sure are way more competent then you yet they all have huge respect for good music. Sure there is shit music, but dont let a few pieces of dog shit on the ground to distort your view on a beautiful view from a beach
Jeremiah Brown
>dialysis machines >organ transplantations >lasik >microwave ovens >wi-fi >cochlear implants >mri machines >telescopes >penicilin Do i need to go on? Which of these things did Heidegger contribute to humanity?
Jose Collins
Plato thought the same about plays and fiction in general brainlet . the interesting thing is things like TV(for easy example)... the way your brain [seems to] work, with social cognition by mirror neurons.... The learning happens BEFORE you are conscious of it. Which means all sorts of propaganda or even brainwashing tools are there. This is why people nowadays act like they see people act on TV, and get emotional based off what people on TV get emotional about. Like how a child will get upset about anything an adult does. There are funny youtube vidoes about this, like where a parent will freak out about a penny on the ground and the child will cry. Just taking clues. It turns out, from brain montiring in monkeys, adults do the same thing, but on a more complex lvl. Part of the reason people are so depressed these days is because they learn their social cues from movies and TV, without realizing it
Jaxson Cook
>not listening to music cures depression OP, I don't think it's the music making you retarded.
Justin Collins
>What people choose to care about isnt music's fault, but the people themselves. People create music, so yes, musicians are very much the problem. They perpetuate the mental distraction of millions of adolescents, children, and adults alike. >leads them to be soulless shells. Please define soul. Emotions get in the way of reason. Reason is the force behind every action.
>art is made to improve the mental state of a human being, Define "improve". It literally makes people dependent on immediate emotions and gratification for satisfaction. To me, this does not improve mental states, but weakens them immensely by habit. >bringing people together. Every country has at least one national anthem, Nationalism is exactly the kind of problem I'm getting at. Concerted cultural manipulation is something we should ALL be wary of, wether perpetrated by governments or provate entities.
>Are you implying that all work of literature is nonsensical and should not be obsessed over? Yes. I am. It is fiction. Dostoyevsky, religious texts, and Bugs Bunny cartoons all share the same ends... amusement and mental manipulation. There is nothing educational about either of them.
>we are all equal in death A suicide bomber and Marie Curie are not equal in their deaths. Please do not insult humanity's potential so carelessly.
>Sure there is shit music, but dont let a few pieces of dog shit on the ground to distort your view on a beautiful view from a beach I much prefer Beethoven's quartets and Bach's Brandenburg Concertos to, lets say, electronic beat #34786 with lyrics about night clubs, but they ultimately serve the same purpose... amusement under the guise of "cultural expression." Let's not kid ourselves. Its fine to say music is beautiful. Its important to ask at what cost?
Brandon Turner
In strict Islam, music is forbidden. According to Muhammad in the Hadith, Musical instruments and singing are strictly forbidden. Only melodically reciting the Quran is acceptable.
Adrian Adams
You are hopeless user. Lets hope you stop being so narcisisstic in the future
Leo Nelson
This is interesting. Also, many forms of art in hardcore Islam are forbidden. Some Muslims do not even make an image of animate beings lest they fall into idolatry.
Samuel Davis
Poetry, Architecture and calligraphy are really the only arts that are permissible in strict Islam.
Ethan Brooks
Why do muslims like their religion so much Its the most boring thing in the planet I mean you get to control woman but at what price
Gavin Campbell
I suppose the personal insults mean you have no constructive response. Good day, sir.
Easton Scott
Holly shit op you're more retarded than anything I've read all week
there is a good psycholgoy/ego secular reason to do this, but hard to explain. Some jews have the same thing about existing more in the mind, and what that does for you. making an image crates a physiological degression
Aaron Diaz
I didnt think someone would come up with something more autistic than no fap. Yet here we are gents.
Caleb Sanchez
I havn't had much music in my life since I forgot where I put my iPod, And I think losing it has made me more depressed.
Benjamin Hughes
Art inspires science op Look at startrek They popularized the idea of a warp drive If we ever travel space we'll probably use a warp drive You need to use your imagination Whatever change your lack of music has made seems to have been for the worst
Among my ummah there will certainly be people who permit zinaa, silk, alcohol and musical instruments. (Narrated by al-Bukhaari , no. 5590; narrated as mawsool by al-Tabaraani and al-Bayhaqi.
I have a suspicion that Islam is probably the religion of the future. Christianity is VERY demographically fragile in Europe and N America. High birth rates and the fact that Islam is sort of more internally consistent than Christianity or Buddhism mean that Islam will probably be the dominant religion in the world by the end of this century.
Camden Hall
Not OP here. I tried playing guitar when I was 10 years old but I lost interest very quickly. Throughout my teenage years I played tenor horn but I sucked big time.
I am 23 now and I cannot really say I play tenor horn anymore.
Andrew Robinson
>implying Islam is internally consistent
Aaron Long
The only people who dislike music are actual autists that dislike it because they are hyper sensitive to sound.
Camden Rogers
No m8 im just tired with your bullshit. Plus im phone posting so it takes longer for me to type. Anyway as soon as you call books uneducational i have to snap out of it immediately. What seems ironic is that the only people agree with you are religious fanatics who you openly shit on
Joseph Long
I did not say it was fully internally consistent I said it was MORE internally consistent than Christianity.
Christian beliefs about what the bible is vary wildly; some say that every word of a KJV bible is directly inspired by God. Others say it is just humans reaching to God. The Old Testament gives out the death penalty for everything and condones slavery and genocide of Canaanites; the New Testament says we have to forgive everyone and turn the other cheek when someone punches you. The trinity is not explicitly explained in the Bible; later church councils developed nearly all the theology; jehovas witnesses do not even believe that jesus is divine. Paul in Ephesians seems to think salvation is faith alone; James 2 says otherwise.
Islam is more clear. The Koran is what the Angel Gibreel spoke to Muhammad. All the theology is simple. There is one God; any deviation from this is shirk. Follow the commandments and believe in God and his messenger and god to paradise.
Landon Russell
I called works of literary fiction (including religious texts and cartoons) uneducational. Not books in general. Non-fiction documentation and journalism are far more important to a society, (and to any given individual for that matter) than fiction could be. I do not seek agreement. I seek discussion and re-evaluation. (For the record, I too, am on a phone.)
Owen Williams
Do you realize that the whole point of all good work of fiction is that it can show people the author's point of view on certain things reality? The bible guides people to have a more meaningful life(i do believe god exists buy just for your taste), old man and the sea is the critisism on democracy and the struggle of humanity,... How you cannot get this simple fact is beyond me
