Incel De-escalation

This thread is dedicated to anyone who feels neglected or angry about the way things are going in their life. In light of recent events I feel that offering incels a venue to vent their frustrations is appropriate. The topics may range from politics, history, daily life, and other stories. Feel free to discuss anything. I would like to know what frustrates you, and why you feel (are) rejected culturally. There are no judgments here. Feel free to unload.

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No one?
I figured someone would have something to say.
Not FBI I promise

i wan pusy

if you don't care about ethics i would recommend a call girl

Fuck it I guess I'll talk about why I'm incel.

So back in 2014 I was diagnosed with Crohn's disease. My illness was so severe that none of the medications would work so I ultimately had to have surgery to remove most of my colon and install a colostomy bag (aka the "poop bag" as seen on tosh).

This is the reason why I am incel. It is about the most disgusting, unattractive thing someone can have on their body. I can do absolutely nothing about it, and I am stuck with it for the rest of my life. I do not believe any girl would ever be sexually attracted to me because of it. Knowing hypergamy, I doubt even girls in a similar position would be willing to settle for me.

So that's in essence why I'm incel. That is also why I get so angry when normies talk about "you just gotta try harder bro." They are so privileged and oblivious to the struggles people like us face. They are willing to talk "body positivity" when it comes to fat landwhales, but not with people like me who have legitimate, uncontrollable deformities. So yeah, that's why I so filled with hate for Chads and Stacys.

Incel is over now that incel means "haven't had sex for 10 seconds". It's time to go back to permavirgin, a more fitting term impossible to coopt.

Where do you store the bag? Under your clothes? You might be able to lie your way into a Christian marriage (probably not tho). My dad has crones and ive been having digestive problems recently. What age did you get diagnosed at?

This might sound cliche but there is some truth to it. Trying your luck with girls in the medical field might be an option for you. They see old people with skin flaking off, vomit, blood, piss, and shit daily. Also I don't ever want to say "it worked for this one guy so it will work for you" but I knew this one kid who had a disease similar to yours. He bled from his butt if he ate certain food. (Something about his intestines not producing the right bacteria. He also has eczema all over his chest arms neck back and crotch (I presume), everywhere on his body. Chicks love him because he's a funny fucker. Again I know this is cliche to say but personality will work for you far more than physicality. I guarantee you. Also. Check this out. m.youtube.com/watch?v=1wKDPq-aIM4 this man has seizures constantly. Foam blood and constant hospital visits. His wife still loves him. The point that I'm making is there is hope

So this is like fight club, Jow Forums feels edition?

Yeah it is basically glued to the right side of my stomach, and I have to change it every couple of days. I got diagnosed when I was 14, before a lot of people even have their first kiss. It also makes me anxious to even give hugs, because I worry people might feel the plastic of the bag rub against them

"Involuntary celibate" how could normies possibly fuck that up?
Story time:
Used to work as a life guard
Lanklet tells me a story about how he fucked some chick at a party
In his room he has glow in the dark moon and planet stickers pasted to his ceiling
Kiddie shit
Like really kiddie shit
Girl drunk as fuck
Probably also on drugs
Takes her to his room
Sits on bed
"Gurl I'm gon show u the stars
Turns off lights
Glow in the drlark kiddie stickers light up
They fug
I'm 22 and a was never more proud of being a virgin than in that moment
That guy fucked a chick and is still the biggest faggot I've ever met.

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Yeah that really sucks man. I feel for you. Especially since you got it so early. Best of luck user.

Sure. If it makes people a little more sane.
It's more of group therapy/ think tank imo

In their minds, incel includes people who at one point were not cel's but became cel's for whatever reason. The real hard part to understand is how they can't figure out the difference between "I wanted to work away from home so I left my husband for a month" and "I'm disfigured and have crohn's disease" (the involuntary part). Basically they'd consider a whore who became a nun to be incel, even if said nun later on reintegrated society and became a whore once more.
Pursuing that line of anti-logic, they end up likening incel with "not having sex for a length of time larger than 0".
And that's why permavirgin is better.

Yeah I often have the thought that I would have to date a nurse or someone else like me if I have any chance at all.

I do have a couple counterpoints to your other points though. Your eczema friend, has any of these girls actually fucked him or been attracted to him, or does he just make them laugh and that's that? I imagine it is the latter option. And this seizure guy, yes his wife may support him and all, but did they start the relationship with him seizing like that? Because let's be honest, at he beginning stages of a relationship it is all about physical attraction. Later, yes personality and stuff matters for a serious relationship, but to even get your foot in the door you have to be attractive.

I am also stuck with the quandary of when would I tell a girl about my illness? If I tell her immediately or within the first few dates, I imagine it would be an instant turn off. On the other hand, I could wait until we are somewhat emotionally invested, but then her likely rejection would leave me even more distraught. Yes, I suppose there is "hope," but it seems like such a remote possibility to me in the age of Tinder that it is very difficult for me to be optimistic.

Thanks dude. I just try to focus on other things and live life the best I can. I just wish normies could understand that inceldom is more than just bitching about being ugly.

My only real issue is that I was circumcised. The way I make myself feel better about it is to think about men circumcised as adults. Let's say a guy has really bad phimosis or something, so he gets circumcised. Does that mean his sex life is now ruined forever? No, of course not. Mine wasn't too bad, I can still masturbate without any lube comfortably. So, it's not so bad. It's unnecessary and pretty retarded to do it to infants, but if a fairly tame circumcision is one of the worst things in my life, then my life can't really be too bad, can it? I won't circumcise my sons and I will try to convince my friends to do the same.

And besides that, Foregen says they'll have human trials by next year. So, hopefully they'll able to regenerate my foreskin before I'm out of my 20s (21 now).

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i demand a qt gf and 100 boxes of unmarked tendies delivered to my mummsies house or else Toronto will be just the beginning

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If you look on tinder then yes. You will likely not be successful. My eczema friend does get laid he has a girlfriend. As for telling them about your condition I would tell them immediately. If it is issue for them at first it would surface as an issue at some point. Also you keep bringing up having sex. If you want sex get a call girl (original I know) but seriously if the focal point of your relationship is getting laid then it will not last. Again this sounds cliche but it is true. In fact you won't even get a girl in bed with you. (Not because of your condition) because your approach is wrong. If you are a natural witch chicks getting laid happens. If your here then getting laid should be considered as a possibility at best. Work on your social articulation. If you go into a date with the mindset "gonna get laid you will never land a girl in bed. Chicks want to have fun on dates not feel like sluts. (Except for sluts) so do you want a relationship or just to fuck

where are her nipples? also source

Crazy Jenn on pornhub
Type crazy Jenn 1 2 3 4 ect

The pig wizards brainwashed all the women in society to turn against men, and now we all have to watch the most sociopathic people on Earth *systematize* the removal of young women from the dating pool for their own purposes.

Such a giant mystery what the fuckin' problem could be!

So your s a y i n g its the jews

My brother died from a drug overdose in highschool which severly fucked up my mental health. It also doesn't help when my parents tried to prevent me from turning into a degenerate like my brother by keeping me locked away from society for a whole year.

Fuck I'm sorry.
Do you still live with your parents?

well if it helps a lot of girls (including me) find circumcised penises more attractive than uncircumcised ones

Yea they eased up on me, and honestly i don't blame them. I was experimenting with drugs as a coping mechanism. Still though, i couldn't learn any social skills from highschool. I am not a virgin (actually lost it to qt mulatto in highschool) but it's been a very, very long time.

I actually heard that from former female friends aswell.

You're misunderstanding me. I'm not bringing up sex because I'm obsessed with getting laid. Again if you ask people on an incel forum most people will say that sex is secondary and they actually want a genuine, mutually caring relationship. It's just that sex is a more concrete/quantifiable thing. But the thing is, any serious pre-marriage relationship necessitates physical attraction. Personality is important, but it is only relevant after the initial interest. Also, when I mentioned Tinder, I meant that online dating as instilled a sense of superficiality among women that was deemphasized the importance of personality, which you seem to claim is so important. I have never downloaded Tinder myself.

Yes, I could definitely work on my social skills, this is r9k after all. I see a therapist, but I can tell she doesn't understand what I'm going through because she's a woman. The fact that I have missed all the normal sexual milestones doesn't help my chances either. Perhaps I will find a girl who will accept me someday, but it seems increasingly unlikely

No, that was more directed at the IC JV squad of gullible marks who drink the kool aid even harder than "civilians" and prop up an academic priesthood of elitist idealogues who don't give a single fuck if the little people make a baby ever again.

Yeah
Have you considered religion? You don't have to believe in anything. just for social interaction.

/thread/ is full of LARPers and faggots. De-escalation makes you sound like a cunt, theirfore end this thread. Any larper go back to your normie life and gtfo of Jow Forums. and that goes with OP. BTFO

I read all 3 holy books desperate for answers but i cannot interact with people for the life of me. I get so anxious i start shaking really badly.

What makes me angry is the fact I was underappreciated for the past years. From the 3rd grade to 9th grade. Being the smartest spic makes me different but makes me a perfect target to be used a lot. I gave my people the answers for homework and tests, including the exams. Not even a single "thank you" they gave me. I wanted to help others to not repeat but turns out, I'm hurting myself giving my work to them. Still haunts me to this day, I never got the respect I deserved that helped their education.

I agree with you that many girls are being ruined by social media. As for your therapist I can't comment. If her gender is an issue I'd suggest finding a male therapist. Sex is important and obviously a major milestone in a relationship and I can assure you someone out there will be physically attracted to you. Your condition is quite peculiar though. There also might be another option that could work. They have sites for disabled people to meet up, maybe some of the girls that use those sites will have an understanding of where you are coming from. Might be worth a try, that's honestly the best I got hope this helps.

>cleaned my room
>lowered my standards
>got a nice haircut
>lost all fat and starting to gain muscle
>quit video games
>quit porn
>still get rejected by a barely 5/10 probably 4/10 girl

This is fucking ridiculous. Why am I fucking treated like this? My whole life i'm treated like a fucking subhuman. Just give me fucking cancer and let me die if this is all my life is gonna be.

>dude get a hobby

A hobby can't fill the fucking void anymore. My life is so fucking empty. Friends abandoned me cause I ignored one text since I was extremely depressed and ashamed to see them. I have one more girl to ask out and if she can't even consider giving me a date then i'm fucking done. Getting my tax return, buying a gun and blowing my brains out. I guess God will then send me to hell to suffer forever because he made me suffer so much in life and never fucking helps me despite praying all the time to him.

Really, really shit luck. Also just the fact that I've never known whether or not a girl was interested in me and thus never asked any of them out.

It's an odd feeling, too. Going by /soc/ standards I'm about a 7-8/10, and I do a lot of things that are generally considered attractive (lifting, playing and recording in a band, motocross, etc.) There's just something about me that turns women off entirely, but I've been struggling for so long to find a rational explanation for it.

If I could recommend a religious group I'd tri SGI they have small groups and are open to all people. The group I went to was very understanding and had a lot of kids that were bullied and harassed at early ages. As for social interactions breath control and exposure. Practice meditation regularly, and go out in public every day. Go to the gym for half an hour grocery store talk to customers at work. Every bit of social exposure will help rewire your brain. You seem overstimulated by talking to people. Look up techniques for anxiety / panic attacks.

What is your current age?
Ok this r9k never make same post is really pissing me off

You sure showed me
Bakka

Thanks for the advice! You are the 1st normie to actually give me something to work with instead of "bee urself" and "just hire a hooker"

Look dude don't kill yourself
I don't know how you are in person but maybe try online dating? (Not tinder)
Make a profile and chat up chicks online before asking them out.
If you did all the stuff you say you did then I'm sure you'll get some girls.
Also if you don't have a hobby. Get one. Girls like someone with drive. And your hobby could be interesting. He'll take up astronomy. Jupiter's out this time of year and look at the the sky is almost meditative. Fishing and biking are also good activities to zone to

No problem good luck!
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Sorry auto correct is really fucking up some of my posts

How long have you been on Jow Forums? Is this brandon?

26. My best years are behind me now unfortunately.

I have hobbies but they are hard to enjoy with anhedonia. I read a lot more, hike, got some rollerblades, do some gardening. Have the fishing poles to fish so might get into that.

Im sick and tired of living where I am right now, my mother and my sister are way to abrasive to live around. They always tell me to shut up when I call out their shit but when I do anything I must fess up and behave. All I want is to get my own place where I can watch anime and conduct my hobbies in peace. The only problem is that I have no fucking money, vehicle, licence, or degree. fortunately I have gotten a job so i can help pay the bills so hopefully my mother will be less of a bitch to me. But that's not enough, I want to be self-sufficient but I don't know how to reach that goal under my circumstances.

If you care about ethics I'd recommend rape and murder

I wouldn't consider myself an "incel", although some might. I was definitely one when I was younger, but things have changed since then. Against my better judgement, I'll start from the beginning.
>be me
>9 years old
>liked being active
>2nd grade teacher begins to abuse me
>classmates follow her example and bully me
>try to defend self
>fail
>principal and school police officer don't believe me when I tell them what my teacher is doing
>think I'm lying to get out of trouble for "starting fights"
>principal threatens to send me to juvenile hall if I'm not quiet
>stop resisting the beatings
>parents pull me out of school when they hear me crying myself to sleep
>therapists prescribe addictive drugs that make me unable to sleep and fuck my brain chemistry
Cont.

Fast forward through 6 years of uneventful social isolation
>be me
>15 years old
>no longer active
>eat all the time, am 50 pounds overweight
>body frame holds it ok, so I don't look too fat
>socially retarded from abuse and isolation
>no longer shower, maybe do so every 1-2 months, if even
>same peers who bullied me then still do it now
>think of suicide every day
>sophomore year, now 16
>become more religious in the face of isolation
>dad loses job with NASA due to budget cuts
>finds new job in another state, contract work
>drive there
>start junior year of high school in new state
>17 now
>no longer want sex, want to wait until marriage
>start to shower regularly
>join ROTC program at new school
>girl from class asks me out
>first time dating a girl
>we kiss once, nothing more
>she's either not very good or kissing isn't all it's hyped up as
>she's also really abusive, threatens to kill herself if she doesn't get her way, steals my things, even gets me physically hurt on one occasion
>dumps me after 3 weeks of dating
>constantly waves her new boyfriends in my face
>decide I should try to be happy with myself before I focus on dating so the next one wouldn't fail, didn't realize she was being abusive until I told someone the stories later
Cont.

please continue this is a catharsis thread.

I have been bullied and ostracized my whole life by normies. I remember sitting in the bathroom stall during lunch at my high school because I had no fucking friends. I remember the countless times I have been told I was an idiot. I never had a fucking chance with any girl and I still don't.

All in all, I still have no friends and spend my Friday nights alone crying my fucking self to sleep while normies party and have the time of their life.

It hurts...

>girl from class asks me out

GET OFF MY BOARD

Since browsing this board for so long and other Incel sites, I just can't stop hating women. Even women who are in relationships and don't cheat, I just can't help feeling like they are whores. Can I ever fix myself? I just have such hatred and intense anger for women, I don't respect my own mother. I don't know how to fix it

I literally have fucking cancer and nobody but my parents care

>fast forward to graduation
>am 18 now
>spend the next 5 months aimless, playing vidya
>concerned about weight now, begin dieting
>lose the 50 pounds, look better, around 7/10 (probably was 5/10 at best before)
>someone in the global chat for one game recommends I become an accountant when my lack of plan comes up
>the job sounds nice, begin to study for it
>get minimum wage job at local store
>constantly juggling work and school, depressed often
>5/10 at best coworker rejects me after leading me on for a week
>turns out she'd put in her two weeks notice before I asked and didn't even tell me
>got angry at me very often and wouldn't talk to me, opting to avoid me when possible (out of character for her)
>continued like this until she left
>left job after 4 months of being overworked and dealing with meth addicts, pimps, and psychotics after dark (no idea why they came there, it's an empty small town)
And today
>be me
>19
>studying for accounting
>in shape
>look like Chad now
>still socially retarded
>still don't want to have premarital sex
>mfw women think I only want sex
>mfw women are disgusted when they learn I'm a virgin
>mfw they're disgusted further that I'm saving myself
>mfw my only hope is another virgin
>mfw female virgins are impossible to find past 18
>mfw I want to kill myself again because the world is shit
And that's it. I can tell I'm in for a storm of shit because I kissed a girl once

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Read the whole thing, it was an abusive emotional tampon and we didn't fuck or even hold hands. That kiss was the first and last sign of affection I ever received from her or most anyone else, and she only did it because I asked her to like a fucking moron.

About 8 months ago, I thought that I was going to be able to turn everything in my life around. I was starting a new life full of new opportunity.
Fast forward 8 months. I'm an unemployed 23 year-old KHV semi NEET (taking classes part time, altho I might fuck everything up very soon). I'm struggling daily with addiction and my own depression/detachment from the world. I just feel so lonely and lost all the time and there's no end in sight.

Hey don't get yourself down. Female companionship is worthless now, just focus on getting your own place and living free.

Dude you should probably meet girls at a church or something, you're pretty much exactly what more conservative girls are looking for

I tried, they're all taken already.

Dear FBI:

Please make my waifus real so I can feel better about being an absolute reject by society.

Sincerely,
user

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Give me one reason why I shouldn't enact my plan to kill all women and rich jews.

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>inb4 japan gets nuked a third time to make anime real

Im ok with it tho

I am stressed out because im not killing the entire United States government right now. That really grinds my gears. BAKA!

My parents call me retarded and I know it's probably all jokes but it really hurts my heart

because change must happen within not only outside (altough it helps)

confidence is way more important than good looks
(good looks help you to have confidence, but dont actually need it)