Private property should be abolished, it is an archaic concept.
Private property should be abolished, it is an archaic concept
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no. pay taxes
Ill blow up a freaking bridge if you give me a gf
yeah yeah but what's the point of fighting for economic justice if I can't even get a gf
i agree
this thread is my property because i was the last person to post in it
everyone please refer to me as OP
>wagies can't comprehend what an entrepreneur is
>wagies can't comprehend the only reason they are employed is because someone hired them to make use of their assets
poor wagies
Private property is just a better way of doing things. If you believe in collective ownership there is nothing stopping you from applying that model through a cooperative under the current system.
>there is nothing stopping you from applying that model through a cooperative under the current system.
besides the lack of capital you mean
>that comic
The author should learn what time preference and saving are.
The only good thing about what you say, is that if that becomes reality you will be roundly punished for your stupid ideas by your own system.
Collectivism is an archaic system. All traces of it should be abolished.
Holy fucking shit
This comic is absolute proof that leftards are incapable of any kind of thought
Fuck off leftypol and educate yourself
Then why does your government spend so much energy preventing other countries from doing it?
This comic is just a description of private property, nothing more...
>(((entrepreneurs)))
doing what? could you rephrase that?
Just focus on finishing high school, bud.
Actually it's a relatively new concept.
>entrepreneurs are jewish
>second point still stands
What is the problem?
>paid for the machine
>paying you to work
>your five minutes brake is over btw
The "managers don't work" meme again. My current bosses seem to work 24/7 while the employees always complain and go home at 4.
That rich guy owns it because the guy/guys that made it sold it to him, you down syndrome fag
>entepreneurs and private property owners just get money lmfao xddd
The comic isn't talk about managers but owners. Managers are still wagies
Why is Jow Forums able to look through the ruling ideology to see men/women relations as they are, but are still so cucked by capital?
The only logical response would be.
>Sure and im the only who can buy it so you fucks can make a living out of it.
This kind of propaganda only worked on illiterates from till 1930s at best in europe.
>Private property should be abolished
Only broke ass niggas who ain't shit for nothin say this
Cus under communism chad would get all the roasties anyways
They should make their own company then and buy/make their own machinery.
>t. trust fund baby who inherited his wealth from his daddy
Go back to Jow Forums or rebbit or whatever commy shithole you slithered in from. Communists are all whiny faggot cucks. Kys.
I really don't feel like sharing things with others cause of my anxiety.
>lol i called everyone who supports a view cucks!!
You have no argument. This thread is meant to create discussion and you have added nothing.
>this thread is meant to create discussion
It's a bait thread
hubba bubba baby
user, are you seriusly retarded or you are just mad because that user is smart, and you are an edgelord?
Good butthole. I think I'll take from it according to my need and your ability. You should have no problem accommodating my small peepee if I use enough lube. Good thing your butthole doesn't belong to you. Private property is archaic.
>i dont like thing, make it go away
you type words
a dog licks its balls
earth spins
it's weird I go to meets with people who claim to think like this. I ask to make a call on someones phone then walk off with it. they get mad for some reason?????
middle class wanabe communist "everyone elses property but not mine" twats
Pic related you fucking marxist
Why is that large bronze man wearing a bathrobe?
When will these reddit commies stop raiding us?
All communists need to be shot without trial.
neither, i just don't buy into the propaganda of """""entrepreneurs""""" being better than laborers
Okay. You start, buddy.
What's wrong with owning stuff? The cartoon is bullshit because it supposes that owners don't do anything 'around here'. How did their workplace get to be there, hmmmm?
>doing what?
putting in place a system that automatically punishes those who try to put it in place
>It's a bait thread
Holy shit, user. I never would have guessed. I'm glad you saw past it and can add towards deconstructing the OP now.
the jews? try and keep up
for owning the means of production yeah, they don't operate them
why was the USSR so powerful and scary then?
Dumbest post i've ever seen on the site
>people should just be owed free money in a company because the owner is jewish
Who sounds more like a jew?
Maybe it had something to do with having a large army and owning all of Eastern Europe?
That user posted this
>wagies can't comprehend the only reason they are employed is because someone hired them to make use of their assets
When did he said that entrepeneurs are better than laborers?
A shame communists wont put their own ideals into practice, it's almost like they dont believe it can be done They just want to recieve and forget the taking part
it's obviously implied, are you autistic?
Yes and how did they accomplish all of that if socialism doesn't work?
I didn't build it, I don't operate it, I don't work much (now), but I'm the one that put you all together to achieve something greater, offering an interesting contribution to society that pays your salaries.
Ok, the bait was cool but you dont make it fun anymore
i'm out, see ya
>retard can't understand how the bait that was posted is a real example of the thought processes behind people
Who gives a fuck about what the creator of this thread intended. All that matters now is destroying the argument presented before us and making sure the wagies continue to squirm.
Stolen wealth and forced labor, which is exactly why socialism doesn't work.
so you are autistic after all
>owners worked for little pay for ages to establish their product
>owners built a successful product
>owners stick their neck out for other people by handing over control of their success to randoms
>owners dont do shit lmao
The USSR was great at war, I'll give you that. Not so great at peace.
You commies just want to have a Daddy that'll lord it over you. That's the only appeal of communism. That idea that Uncle Joe, or Gampa Marx is there as the stern patriarch taking charge of your weak lives.
No, it shouldn't. He bought it, and he pays the workers. He's the guy who knows how to use money, why should he not be allowed to do that?
i googled a bit about that statue it was a present from china and will stand in trier
does anyone know why china is gifting germany statues? are they just such big fans of marx?
Let me tell you about opression of countries like Poland, Hungary or Ukraine.
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Have a nice day commie, and remember if I met you in real life I will murder you.
But the machine wouldn't exist if that guy hadn't funded the development of it.
>bossman just sits around smoking cigars in his big office all day long around the clock like in cartoons
>workers do repetitive conveyor belt tasks from nine to five until fog horn sound and then they drive home to their wives like in cartoons
How is this fair? Workers of the world unite!
Glad it got your interest. Someone will have to explain it to me. I guess Germans are happy to get the Chinese tourists.
Why were russians so hungry then?
>communist faggot spammed the same thread on Jow Forums because he wasn't getting enough feed for his bait
>leaves out the part where bossman or his family scraped nickles and dimes together to invest in the business and purchase said conveyor belts
hmmmm really does jog the nog
i live in the state/bundesland where trier is
apparently there are already alot of chinese tourists that visit trier every year just for marx
hes really admired over there that must be the reason for the gift
pretty cool stuff i should go there someday i never met anyone from china
>pay someone to build it for me
>pay someone to use it for me
>this is a problem
>leaves out the part where bossman inherited money and land from his slave-owner father
Not really mate more
>the boss mans dad is rich and his dad ect. Ect.
What came first, the man or his wealth?
>implying the wealth was earned rather than taken by force
lmao
>telescopes times to make it seem like slavery hasn't been abolished for over 150 years
VERY SCARY POST!
>applies real world timeline to a discussion about cartoon characters
>doesn't get that satire is supposed to be comment on reality
>moves the goalpost after grasping at straws
>retard commies are essentially never able to successfully build a business using their model
>its because we arent rich lole
>pays for the machines
>uses his management skills to insure profits
>has to pay wages even if the business doesn''t make profits.
>will get fucked in ass if the whole thing goes bankrupt
I know you don't understand economics or the world in general but you could have tried. (also why don't you start by abolishing your own private property and letting hobos live in your house?)
there's plenty of succesful cooperative businesses around the world you fuckin retard
Americans funded the entire Soviet war machine idiot
But they can't be all that successful or else they would have out competed more conventional business practices and become the norm by now.
Absolutely this. Everything seems meaningless.
I feel like I live in a world of my own
why yes, tell me more please
not to mention having the foresight to think about making that investment in the first place and tanking the hurt of operating in the red early on.
lazy brainlets sitting on their asses saying its easy and the rich dont deserve riches but oddly dont do it themselves?
>companies that put profit above anything else thrive under capitalism, a system where profit is all that matters and all play is fair play
>meanwhile companies who try to be fair to their workers and customers while still making profit aren't as succesful
gee, i wonder why
I did not move the goalposts sir. An owner today has a father who was only reasonably born in the 20th century. Over a century a family knows lots of ups and downs, and it's extremely presumtious to think all rich people just inherited it. The cartoon is bull because it make heaps of assumptions that are bogus, and THAT's why it isn't funny. It's not funny because it's not true.
>Over a century a family knows lots of ups and downs, and it's extremely presumtious to think all rich people just inherited it
It really isn't. Educate yourself on socioeconomic upwards mobility.
its been awhile since ive had lessons about communism in school
is anyone in the mood to explain a bit what it was about its easier to understand when its written in familiar Jow Forums terms maybe even greentext form
all i remember from school was
>people didnt like working under communism because low wages
>low wages due to high taxes
>therefore shortages of everything
>they see neighborcountries having everything they want
>rip communism
also fun to think about that it isnt that long ago that people lived under communism
my grandma came to westgermany just before they closed the borders
"communism" is when the state owns the factories and controls the economy
ok thanks
and why did that cripple the economy so badly? too many bad decisions of the state?
>Muh fucking "labor theory of value" fucktardery.
"All dat money u made is unearned value u sploiting workers! mu gibs! MUH GIBS".
An owner or shareholder has the rights to collect the profits of a private enterprize as and when
- He has paid the workers
- Paid all extant taxes
- Paid the loans he took out to start the company
- Presuming it doesn't go bankrupt
- Presuming their is a market
- Presuming his inventory and marketing costs dont bankrupt him
- Etc.
It's like all you loser fucking commies just think that someone just pops up out of the blue and goes "HURR HURR HURRR" and convinces people to work for them for fucking buttons doing shit that they could already do entirely on their own. Which is so batfucking crazy that just on the face of it it's fucking stupid. CAN YOU, as a medical researcher, find out who wants what drug and when and in what quantities and where it is most feasible to manufacture it or buy the literally billions of dollars worth of shit to make that research happen?
Moreover, this doesn't even touch on the fact that most companies are floating on the fucking stock market, thus meaning that the "oinker" is, in fact, you as well, if you have a retirement fund, because investment bankers pour trillions out in the form of pension payments by using these shares as the basis of stock portfolios.
About the only real oinkers in the world are celebrities and people getting paid millions for being instagram hoes etc.
depends whether u mean cccp style "communism" or actual communism
first one is second one is, in short:
>the state is abolished
>people live in self governed communes
>means of production are controlled by communes
but that's obviously an utopia, although one worth pursuing