For fuck's sake, do you count the bar or not?

10 years old meme kek

No, only newfags do

Do an overhead press without the bar and then with it.

Does it feel different?

You have your answer.

No you idiot

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Your numbers don't matter. What matters is progression and ultimately how you will look. Then it'll be funny to dramatically downplay all your lifts when smaller guys ask.

Of course you don't count the bar. Would you count the arms on a machine? Or the handles on cables?

stop falling for the meme, of course, you don't count the bar. is this your 2nd week here?

>Your numbers don't matter. What matters is progression and ultimately how you will look.

This is probably the actual right answer.

But yes, you usually count the bar.

Literally all competitions from the Olympics to Strongman to Crossfit count the bar. Why would you do any different?

The bar doesn’t count. Stop fucking with all these newfags, you’re going to get them injured

this is literally so stupid.
1 pl8 is 135 lbs or 60 kg. that's one 45 lb plate on each side plus the 45 lb bar. each "pl8" unit of measurement (one plate on either side) adds 90 lbs or 40 kg. so 2 pl8 is 225 lbs and 3 plate is 315 lbs. this really should be undisputed.
no one who deadlifts "4pl8" is saying they're picking up 360 lbs, they say 405, because that's how much weight they are picking up off of the ground.

lol why would you count the bar. its not a dumpbell its so light.

>Dumpbell

I'm very weak coming back from chemo and can't even lift the bar. So it must count for something.

do you count your clothes when weighing yourself?

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We're never gonna make it as a community if we can't get past this one basic tenet. Count the bar, fucking retards.

How much does the bar weigh on a dumbbell???

You can take off your clothes dumb dumb
You can't take off the bar

>having the cancer

>he leaves the bar on

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Or can you? Hmmm.

No you fucking retard

you count half the bar's weight since you're using two hands.

Schools out?

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1 plate can be anything from 2.5-45lbs

>not counting the bar

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desu I don't count the bar. First because I fell for the meme, second because now my calculation are now easier without counting the bar and third because I'll never speak or write about how much I lift or don't - so who cares if it works for me?

>he benches with the bar

Can I put fridge magnets on the plates to microload?

>loading
shouldnt you be lifting?

Do you count your fat, muscles, bones too in each lift? Fuck off.

1 'pl8' (which is a unit of measurement used for ease of reference) is one 45 lb plate on either side of the bar. sure there are different size plates but that's not what 1 pl8 means

Epic bait holy shit lol

> one 45 lb plate on either side of the bar.
sounds like two to me

so a 4pl8 deadlift is 2 plates on each side?

wouldnt that be a 2 pl8 deadlift?

When you deadlift 1pl8 you have to pull this way to prevent tipping over

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Count the bench

no because then there would only be 1 plate on each side

if there is one pl8 on each side thats 2 pl8s

exactly

no. when you put one plate on one side it is assumed you put it on the other side so that the weights are balanced out. that's why you can say 1 pl8 when it really means 1 45 lb plate on each side. it would be redundant to say otherwise as the plate values will always be given in multiples of two, which can be made simpler by just listing how much goes on one side.
imagine if someone says they ohp 1 pl8. does that mean they ohp 45 lbs because the value of the bar equals 1 plate? or if you don't count the bar, is it 90 lbs, where they add 22.5 (which would technically be 6 plates total) lbs on either side?
all in all pl8 increments are just supposed used as a reference and are not the actual weight you are lifting

t. literally can't read

so this is two plates?

>the bar weighs nothing don't count it bro

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Ok seriously though now, do you count it or not?

whoops

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>giddy-up!

the bar is AIR do you count AIR when you lift?

That's the most successful meme, ever, I swear.

>crossfit counts the bar

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how much weight do you add to either side

people only count the bar so they can brag about inflated lifts online

a real lifter doesn't count the bar

>counting the bar
LOL. u must be new here

t. 6' manlet XD

well there is one plate on the bar so do I have a one plate row?

You shouldn't be using the bar after the novice phase anyway; by then you should be just lifting the plates

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Count what you lift. I count the bar, but I don't count the clips

yep. reminder its a unit of reference

The real question is do you count it when doing tbar

so this is a 2 pl8 row then?

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ok now i know you're baiting i'm sorry i was fooled for so long

didnt answer my question

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1pl8

but theres 4 pl8s in the picture

You don’t count the first two plates you need those just to even start the exercise

kek

No, because the bar is static weight and the plates are rotational weight.

Yes

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THE BAR WEIGHS 20KG

ITS NOT A WEIGHTLESS OBJECT

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FUCK

STOP MAKING THESE THREADS

>Put 90 pounds on a 45 pound bar and all of the sudden the bar doesn't weigh anything anymore

T. Brainlet

I bet you count your fingernail weight too, don't you?

STOP ASKING THIS QUESTION ON Jow Forums IT HAS BEEN MEMED TO DEATH. seriously look this up anywhere else for a real answer, stop using a polish autism support group as your only fitness resource, you will frustrate and confuse yourself to no end.

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t. absolute fucking retard who should and will never breed because he is so fucking stupid libraries catch fire when he looks at them and who should just finally do the world a favor and exile himself to the depths of the ocean

>20 kg bar

Highly doubt it.

Fpbp

>current year
>still falling for this classic bait

Do you lift the weight of the bar?

physics.org/facts/air-really.asp
>not counting the 2000 lbs of atmospheric pressure

>He doesn't count his body weight in his squats

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Ask yourself this OP. Would rich motherfucking piana count the bar?

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Don't count the bar, or the first three plates on either side.Those don't count.

No they call it a "universal bar" because it it is a universally accepted weight 20 kg or ~45lbs. The whole point of using a universal standard is so it doesnt need to be calculated.
Why make a standard if you need to calculate anyway?

Yeah when I'm establishing/finding out my max, but for a regular workout no because you don't need to know for progressive overload.

>how much do you bench user?
2 plates... Plus the bar.
>oh because i thought you were benching plates using a fucking unicorn horn
Stop being retards Jow Forums

You didn't even try

>he counts his bones when weighing himself
Shiggydiggy

You count the bar. This meme is completely unfunny and I'm sick of these stupid threads.

Lmfao why would you count the bar??

>2018
>not loading your plates with fridge letters so you can increase both mental and physical gains
>not making new words with each rep
>not shouting them out as you do the rep
shiggiddypeb-bop-boo

>numbers don’t matter
>is okay with being outlifted by a twink
Lol retard

>you can somehow lift the atmosphere

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no, you don't count the bar
the exercise is factoring the weight of the bar already
so a bench press with the bar is a 0lb bench press