The biggest, ultimate COPE practiced by practically everybody on the planet is the belief that they have control over their own biology. If only they try hard enough! Then, one day, someday, everything will change! A belief most people have on this sorry planet, yet we still see most people remain tremendously average. Because as much as they'd hate to admit it, their very conscious, their soul, is just as anchored to biology as their physical athleticism. And no matter how hard you train, you're never going to beat Usain Bolt. Nor are you going to become the next Albert Einstein or Bill Gates.
It is pretty obvious that some men will always be more athletic than others. And recent research indicates that other aspects of men are just as unchangeable. We do not know how to improve IQ through education alone. Most people who have significant weight loss will gain it all back. Even personality traits seem to be significantly genetic. But when we say that our ability to get laid is mostly set and stone, both Blues and Reds FREAK THE FUCK OUT!!!!!!. "Its your personality, you misogynist freak!" "Just lift, bro." "Don't you even know game?" They cannot stand biological determinism, because it represents a counter to everything they stand for. But as the least successful of men, we know that, no matter what we do, we cannot get laid to save our lives. And I mean this in a very literal sense.
no if youre young enough you can pump hormones into your body
ive been doing it since i was young, working pretty well
Luke Green
>The biggest, ultimate COPE practiced by practically everybody on the planet is the belief that they have control over their own biology. If only they try hard enough
Epigenetics. /thread
Landon Hughes
The Blue Pill - The Hope
Honestly, I'm outright tired of addressing why The Blue Pill is wrong so many times, only for us to be strawmanned anyways. To put it simply, The Blue Pillers really do believe in a Just World Fallacy. According to the Bluepillers, men who are friendly and fun get laid, men who are rude and, well, evil don't. That is the extend of their philosophical "rigor". No explanation for the divorce epidemic, hybristophilia, celebrity obsession, ancestral sexual success, or harems. In fact, according to them ,men who sexually succeed can't be assholes, because women want them.
The real truth is somewhere in between, but Blue Pill refuses to admit women can be shallow at every turn. Our "personality" is the least of our problems. If The Blue Pill "theory" that misogyny is the cause of our virginity, and not the other way around, then we would have seen some sexual success while we still drank the Kool-Aid. So yes the bluepillers are the problem, but the more important issue is what The Red Pill exposes. Does The Red Pill hold any more "water"?
Ostensibly, The Red Pill uses real, evolutionary psychology to attain sex from nubile, fertile females. And on paper, much of what they write makes sense. Females are interested in musculature. Therefore, you must lift weights. Females are interested in social dominance. Therefore, you must pass unique tests, maintain frame, and acquire value. However, there is a world's difference from recognizing these attributes and being able to attain them yourself.
Men are born with a predisposition to certain personality traits. Some men have more testosterone and other hormones/enzymes to ward off fat and attain muscle mass. Kids don't exactly lift, but that doesn't change the fact we can tell who the jocks are by Junior High or who will turn into one due to puberty. A jock who has a dry spell can use this information to maximize his already top tier genes. A nerd or an Incel will find far fewer success.
Even if it is technically possible for a normie to become a muscle God, most normies lack the biological willpower to achieve the results. The "Alphas" of TRP CONSTANTLY praise the life changing effects of lifting. "It will boost your confidence, make you slay pussy, and most importantly, make you feel like a GOD." Well, sorry, if lifting was actually the soul-cleansing activity TRP says it was, people would actually fucking do it. "Don't lift for pussy, do it for yourself!" can be an argument from both sides ( blackpillers say to lift for yourself and not for women because they know the true nature of women and know that muscles dont get you laid, looks does), but from redpillers it is an absolute excuse for the back-breaking labor men do in their desperate attempt to get female sexual validation. (cont. in next post)
Even when I tried to lift weights constantly few days a week every week, I NEVER enjoyed it beyond the brief testosterone pulse afterwards. Yet, if I brought up this fact to a TRPer, they would get all angry over it ( guess they cant handle the truth, because once again, you can polish a turd, but its still a turd). TRP will not take any excuse for you to not join their "religion", its pretty much cult like.
And what are the actual, on the field results behind the constant Alpha posturing? Well, as far as I know, no scientific study has been performed to measure the success of PUA/Red Pill philosophy. However, I will point out that, despite painting it like a miracle drug, one of the core tenants of The Red Pill is to expect constant failure in approaches
Even with all of the self-improvement in the world, your chances still remain in the low single digits. Its almost like self-improvement and game aren't particularly effective! I'd like to believe that Red Pill Knowledge has at least SOME effect, but it seems rather clear that there is no evidence at all that TRP will make you a pussy slayer or girlfriend acquirer.
The Black Pill - The Rope
The ultimate conclusion one has to make is that most females look at the same type of attractive man, that is largely determined by biological factors. Lifting will not change your face. Game won't remove your autism. And concepts like abundance mentality and dread game are impossible to achieve unless you're already sexually and financially successful. You can't have abundance when you fail 97 tries out of 100, or are a kissless, hugless, romanceless virgin. Nothing you read on the web is going to make you wealthy, and for as many ventures that succeed, many more will fail. (cough bitcoin cough)
CONCLUSION: The Black Pill is the ultimate representation of reality. Most pussy slayers have never even heard of The Red Pill or Game. Yet they still slay pussy. This is because they were born as Chad Thundercock or chadlite, not made. As Incels, the moment we reached out-of-college age without losing our V-cards, all hope is lost. Maybe if we become MEGA rich we'll get laid. BUT REMEMBER, ITS ALL ABOUT FACE!!!!! But there is no point in dedicating our lives to the gym when its ALL ABOUT FACE. We are virgins because we are unattractive: only plastic surgery might change that, but heck, even that is a gamble, and a very expensive path to look towards to.
Boring, stop repeating the same pasta over and over. Nobody cares.
Wyatt Thomas
Babbys first nihilism
Brayden Morris
You, I, and humanity as a whole are pathetic, that's already been proven by history. To link your worth to the amount of women willing to have sex with you is just blatantly stupid, so the basis from which you draw value is more pathetic than you are. To claim that genetic predispositions dictate who you are as a whole is partly wrong. Have some self worth outside the amount of women who will lay with you. Try actually having goals that push you to be more competent. Don't be like everyone else, be original man...
Mason Murphy
>A belief most people have on this sorry planet, yet we still see most people remain tremendously average
Most people don’t put any effort in. They own gym machines they don’t use, they drink too much, they eat junk food, they sleep badly. The fact is, most people have absolutely no idea what good things they’re capable of.
Jackson Bailey
What is the spark that ignites a man's passion, propelling him beyond the self-satisfying confines of idle fantasies and into true greatness?
>Be me >2018 >Hormones arent too great >Inject test >Biology changes >????
Cameron Foster
Hmm except I used to be a khhv depressed fattie and now I am happy and in good shape.
The thing about determinism is even if it’s true, you can’t predict where it’s going to take you. So it doesn’t matter.
Landon Peterson
Meh. If one doesnt like the hand they were dealt in life then there's only 2 things to do. You give up, or you take responsibility for your own existence and work on your shit. There's nothing admirable, or personally fulfilling about being a nihilistic defeatist. The Blue Pill is pure ignorance, but The Black Pill merely presents an absolutist reality with no solution. What good does it do anyone to view the world through such a deterministic frame? I refuse to relinquish personal responsibility and my own pursuit of happiness and self-actualization because of biology. I cant pretend that my actions and choices dont hold weight in the grand scheme of my sexual/evolutionary success, because, well, they do. We can discuss how marginal that would be from person A - Z but I think I've expressed my stance.
this p much. Genetic determinism is somewhat true. Except gene expression can be changed. It's very difficult and it implies extreme personal responsibility, but it can be done.
Brody Sanders
It's cool to think that some day, we can live in a transhumanistic society where we biologically push people to be smarter, faster, stronger. It's frustrating that social taboos will get in the way of it.
Like designer babies. If the technology is to exist when I'm ready to have a family, I would order the full set to make my kid better. Somehow that would be frowned upon, even though I basically see it as an obligation, to make your kid as powerful as possible.
Until then though, we have to just basically pretend we have total control over our biology. It's too easy to be self-defeating and just say "nothing I do will make me greater." But if you assume full potential, it's just a matter of will before you improve. You can always improve yourself in some way.
So by your logic because 1's cannot become 10's by work alone the 1's shouldnt strive to improve and be a 2 or 3? Thats pretty retarded
Bentley White
>equating getting pussy with being Albert Einstein or usain bolt
Henry Perez
Manchildren can have the insight to discover ugly truths but never have the emotional maturity to live with them.
Jaxon Foster
Hold on, let me switch the translator on.
"WAAAAA NEVER IMPROVE! IT'S NOT MY FAULT! WAAAAAA..."
Mason Morales
saying being able to get laid is set in stone is like saying the ability to cook a good meal is set in stone
theyre both skills and skills can be learnt
no babby comes out knowing how to cook
ofc theres some things that will permanently hold you back like someone with supertaster genetics will always be a better cook than someone without
Juan Peterson
>Most pussy slayers have never even heard of The Red Pill or Game. Yet they still slay pussy. This is because they were born as Chad Thundercock or chadlite, not made.
How many times have you been out clubbing or to parties? Be honest. Because I see short, average looking guys leaving bars with very hot women every single night. Looks matter, they matter a lot, but all it takes is ONE case of an ugly, poor guy who gets laid like dick to completely disprove your little blackpill cope.
Life as a man is not meant to be easy, you aren't meant to be a good looking supermodel. The main separator is masculinity and masculine drive, which can be improved in many ways.
If you're average looking or even sub-par and you have no success with women, the problem is still YOU. YOU don't approach women because you actually have a superinflated ego (most depressed people like you are very focussed on themselves) and you're terrified of being rejected, so you reject yourself and say you should never bother in the first place.
I guarantee if I were to meet you in real life your looks would be the least of your worries. I truly feel sorry for men like yourself who have completely given up on life, just remember me on your deathbed and think of what could have been if you didn't spend the best years of your life isolating and feeling sorry for yourself. Faggot.
This. Chad, the "natural" with women, simply learnt from a young age how to interact with people in a socially proficient way. Learning this at a later age is difficult but can be done.
>one of the core tenants of The Red Pill is to expect constant failure in approaches My god user. MY GOD
this is brutal
the real redpill is that women are inherently incapable of love they way men do. this is why they were seen as nothing but breeding objects. marriage has always been a business and not a love relationship. Practically everything from the blue pill world is shit.
this is why artificial wombs and sexbots will be the next step of human revolution.
Dominic Morris
what in the god-damn
Liam Roberts
I always wonder about posts like this. What was your life at home like? Was your mother absent, or extremely cold and unloving? Do you have no sisters or close female friends? My mother is a wonderful woman who loves my dad very much, and every time I see this "all women are incapable of love" shit it weirds me out. Have you really never seen a woman in love?
