Fapping without porn?

Shlomos in full porn shilling force today. What's the matter, traffic going down?

Try spending as few time as possible alone in your room.
When you're done doing the necessary things, head out and do something with your friends, go to gym etc.
If you have the urge to fap take a piece of paper and write it down, with the date and time.
Now truly aware of it, try replacing it with something productive. Running would be my choice. But it can be anything. See also above. Just leave your room.
Write down, what you now should better be doing and why.
If you give in to fap, afterwards write down how long you did it, and how you feel about it now, and then why you want to quit it. And why it is better to do activity x next time.
Do not write something of the sort that fapping is pathetic and only losers do it, that might reduce self-confidence and lead to depression.
If you need porn to fap, delete all the porn you have, and if possible quit your private internet access and use public ones. You now will think that is impossible.
But how much really necessary and productive things do you really use the internet for?

proof nofap is a cult

imagineyourself writing on paper every time you want to fap expeting to get some enlightment for not doing something you're genetically predisposed to do

nofap incels should do nobreath instead

Porn is un ironically ruining your mind.

It's a shame theres no proof to back up that claim that isn't anecdotal

I tried going without porn for a while and I'd still jerk off

but my mind kept fixating on images of my mom when jerking it so I decided to go back to porn

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In moderation is key here.
Going a few days without is always healthy, as long as you don't go full autismo banding together with internet strangers because you've not spanked the monkey in 10 days.

thats how I did it for most of my life, its honestly better imo but I don't do it as much anymore because im a porn addict

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>watching another man pound some slut
>close up dick shots and male assholes
>hearing another man moaning and grunting
>getting off to another man getting off
YOU ARE CONDITIONING YOUR BRAIN

what the actual fuck ?

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So you are a weak minded little piece of shit. Good for you fag

>???
well I did quit porn, you're the one defending it

And your point is?

nofap is a meme and retarded
noporn is good

Is fapping to one's own reflection considered porn?

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it's all in ur sad little head, if placebo effect actually have an effect on you, you are weak

I have the same thing going but im 3 weeks in.
I feel better than ever before

See this is why lesbian is superior

although my favorite porn is just amateur chicks masturbating

yes

>imagineyourself writing on paper every time you want to fap expeting to get some enlightment for not doing something you're genetically predisposed to do

I...what? This would actually do a thing. Like. You're fucking stupid

You think that what you take in and experience doesn't effect you?

Nice sentence flow incel

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are pictures considered porn ?

every stimulus is

>Jow Forums

CAN SOMEONE GIMME SOME INFO ABOUT NOFAP/NOPORN?

Like I have some questions:

>Can I still watch porn, even if I don't jerk off?

>Can I jerk off to thoughts of porn?

>Can I look at erotic images/nudes?

>Can I fap to erotic images/nudes?

>Can I fap to imagination only?

Every stimulus? So actual vaginal intercourse with a female you love is porn?

>Can I still watch porn, even if I don't jerk off?
Only if you're doing it with your partner during foreplay

>Can I jerk off to thoughts of porn?
Sure. Anything goes in the spank bank

>Can I look at erotic images/nudes?
If you come across them randomly but I wouldn't seek them out

>Can I fap to erotic images/nudes?
Not for now

>Can I fap to imagination only?
Yee

This was me answering questions towards myself. You do whatever the fuck you want

Well said

No

dont watch porn, never, it literally fucks your brain up even if you dont fap

it is better to be free of those images because it condition your concept of sex and even your emotional intelligence

well, the difference between erotism and porn sometimes is subtle and sometimes is clear, in case of doubt id try to avoid it, but it is no doubt better than porn

The only fapping id recommend is using imagination, nudes could be also fine because your not watching raw sex (watching sex activates part of your brain that a nude image dont, at least not on the same level)

But take my advice with a grain of salt...im another adicted motherfucker who gets off to porn like twice a week.

I think that the patrician fap is without any images in your head, just you enjoying your sexuality as you please, trying to do whatever feels better, knowing your dick... so you dont make any false expectations of sex that can fuck you up later (if you fap imagining a blowjob maybe you condition yourself to PE when the real girl succ you, for example)

You're a gullible retard who changes his life because teenagers on anime sites told you to.

Start by not looking at any porn containing male actors, especially cock-centric imagery like blowjobs

how do I deal with the guilt of relapse? I was so jazzed about doing all of april noporn and even started a few days ahead of schedule. when i got back into town from visting the family for easter i jerked off twice that night

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guilt doesnt do shit just go on and continue, just relapse less

>genetically predisposed to do
We are genetically predisposed to beat off to videos of women getting fucked by someone else? how about no schlomo try the other

Getting oculus and play waifu sex simulator while playing with a 20bls of p&a is the only way I cum these days

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Do you understand what voyeurism is?

who fuckin cares. that shit is bad for you

>watching porn is different then closing your eyes and imagining how you fuck girls porn style

Imagine being this much of an autistic retard

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This, dont watch porn faggots

MODS

Porn is the devil, it literally turns your brain into mush. It's good that you've quit because it's definitely worse than fapping itself. There are so many studys that how just how dangerous and self-harming porn is. You might as well smoke crack if you're watching porn. NEVER again.
Fapping 3-5 times a week would be too much for me though. LowFap + NoPorn is the best long term solution. NoFap is good for rewiring your brain and being focused to improving yourself, becoming more confident and getting shit done but I get that after a while it just becomes a distraction.

I'm currently 3 weeks into NoFap and try to not fap until I can get laid regulary, after I've transformed I might go back to fapping old school to my own imagination.

youtube.com/watch?v=7oFVOJf0TzY

>fapping without pron
I can't do this. I picture myself in the act from outside and start either keking or feeling like this isn't right. But recently I started getting this feel that all sexual activities alone are just not fun/worth doing at all, even tho I fapped for 10 years now.

We are genetically predisposed to beat off and often. Adding videos makes little to no difference in the broader scheme.

Take some time and watch the video linked here You have no scientific arguments to back your statement up. Literally trying to cope and hide your fapping and porn addiction behind genetics LMAO. Stay a smelly, low test loser forever.

>can't control their urges. tries to cope.
nigger please.

I am taking on the nofap challenge and saving all cum for sex. My libido has been down and there are times that I'll jerk off and then cancel my date/prearranged fuck session. After getting Jow Forums my social skills have been lacking anyways

Bullshit you porn pushing addict. Quit choking your chicken for a week, I dare you, don't browse any porn either, you will see how much of an addiction it is, your mind will try to trick you into getting that sick rush of hedonism/prolactin

you are a freak addict and dont even realise it. sad

imgur.com/a/g4eGH

It literally scientifically is and there is a link three posts below yours that shows studies confirming it, but OK smart guy, I guess you know better than people with neuroscience degrees.

>I picture myself in the act from outside and start either keking or feeling like this isn't right

>mfw porn is turning us all into cuckolds who can't even imagine having sex with a woman.

This shit is serious brahs. On day 5.

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you're retarded, it's an addiction and needs to be treated like one, not a cult

No since the point of nofap/noporn is to be with actual women instead

everybody relapses, I've been trying to stop watching porn for a long time and this is the first time in like 6 months that i've managed to go above 10 days. Just start back up again and go read about what porn does to your brain

>have thousands of porn images and videos on my computer
>literally hundreds of videos bookmarked
>spend at least two hours every night browsing and hoarding more porn
>know more names of pornstars (even male ones) than I have real friends in real life
>decide to fucking stop, delete everything
>8 days of noporn and counting
That shit is a genuine addiction. I don't think there's anything wrong with masturbation (in moderation) but you definitely should quit porn.

I whack off to various things in phases. Right now, I can't whack off to anything but hentai with huge racks. Couple months ago, I couldn't even get it up with any anime shit. It just rotates between 2D and 3D for me.

you gotta stop bro, you won't regret it in the long run

I told my gf that I still fap to porn and she made fun of me.

Girls don't understand that if you don't cum once a day minimum you lose your mind.

You're getting a green light for sex once a day

Just trying to stop jerking it to bbc cuckold porn. How did I get here?

good job man. onwards and upwards, proud of you deleting everything, that's no easy task. I did the same with my 3gb of hentai and ecchi images.

We probably have sex 4 days a week. But when I come home at 11 after 2nd shift and she's in bed and goes to work at 7am I jerk off lol.

quit cold turkey, and think about your ancestors looking down on you and shaking their heads every time you get the urge to watch it/look at it.

yourbrainonporn.com/

I'm pretty sure she masturbates too whenever she's horny and you're not around.
>I told my gf that I still fap to porn and she made fun of me.
Should have asked if she watches porn too.

She does. But says she has a hard time getting off on her own. She complains about it. We have talked about porn before though.

Good for you OP. Giving up porn is the most incredible thing I ever did. My life improved so much. I just wait until I'm really horny, and it's easy to but a quick nut, and go right back to normal.

lmao why not just get a gf, it easily feels 10x better.

Feels great. I wouldn't say that I'm more confident but I'm happier for sure. I feel so fatigued and drained after porn bingeing

Why do you think most of us want to get rid of porn in the first place?

>I told my gf that I still fap to porn and she made fun of me.

>She does. But says she has a hard time getting off on her own.

She sounds like a cunt.

We're genetically predisposed to BREED, not cum in a sock.
Masturbation is cheating nature. The dopamine our brains give us when we orgasm is meant to be a reward for fulfilling lifes purpose, but we abuse that in order to get rewards for nothing, so we're draining our energy and fucking up our dopamine receptors.

Look up the experiment on mice where they gave them a lever that if they pulled, gave them a dopamime hit. It didn't pursue female mice or take part in any other activities, it just pulled the lever until it died.

I'd rather she fuck me than masturbate so I don't complain.

Can i jerk off to nudes a qt sent me? Or is that the same as porn?

I feel like I've earned the nudes so its different that just looking it up online. Idk man

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>tfw only cum to weird sex stories I made up on The Sims 4

what have I done

Oh okay ill just go get a gf then

Just make sure she is on the pill because condoms suck

good taste, however it's still porn.

fucking a girl is better

>Girls don't understand that if you don't cum once a day minimum you lose your mind.
Lol no. You're literally just addicted to masturbation and porn

no porn>no fap

This was me a few months ago, every single point. Don't give up, it's so much worth it. Wish I would quit all of this in high school

This isn't true, former 42 day streak

I got a lot more energy though, which is a plus and minus. Could lift more, but around people I went into hyper autist mode. A lot more spastic.

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>different people with different personalities, physiology, body, etc. react differently to things
Woah

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Like you said you've worked for them so it's better than jerking it to actual porn, but I think it still has the same effects to a lesser extent
better to just fuck the chick

Yes this is the happy medium. I allow myself to fap to pictures too but not nudest. Same if not better results than NoFap.

But I can do that even while jerking off every few days

>literally turns your brain into mush
Literally?

>t. hyper chad whose blood brain barrier is so powerful that his emotional and mental state is entirely insulated from his biochemistry, he has transcended his fleshy shell
How do I get transcendent gains like you, user?