Paleo diet

In this world filled with deception your best bet is time.

Seriously, do an elimination and follow a strict as fuck diet for a month or more at a time, taking notes and tracking your intake every day.

Also, don't underestimate the effect that stress has on your gut heath.

ELIMINATION DIET + DISCIPLINE + TIME

Exercise, get enough protein, calories out>calories in. It is not fucking hard. It's literally fucking elementary school math and self discipline. How and why is this a difficult concept to grasp?

Also, practice intermittent fasting as well as prolonged fasting.

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What is SS?

Yeah I'm currently doing OMAD as well, eating only meat, poultry, fish, olive oil, broccoli, spinach. Drinking water and ACV. Supplementing 1000mg Vit C
Gonna do this for a month and see if I improve. First thing I'm gonna add are gonna be potatoes because fuck I'm so hungry and low energy on this diet

What are your symptoms?
Consider adding red skin sweet potatoes instead of white potatoes, since white potatoes are part of the nightshade family and may be harmful to you.

Bro, I ate raw liver for the first time in my life a few days ago, I felt the power pulsate throughout my body. Started hiking again in the countryside here in UK. My skin got a whole lot better, still drink more water, not big on milk.

Still, can't go wrong with grass fed organic meat.. Good luck brah.

My simptoms are basically red patchy spots all over my body (legs, ass, chest and belly, back, arms), not too big, but there are a lot of them. On scalp too. Face has less patchy but still red and rough areas.

I hear you mate, thanks a lot!

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I just searched and "mild guttate psoriasis" seems to closely resemble my situation

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>heal my gut

sounds like a meme. just eat clean, dude. whatever isnt loaded with shit additives and dont go over your calorie limit. its that ez.

Starting strength

Have you tried fasting?

Why do retards like you always find the need to spout shit about things with which they have no experience? Really.

I have not, but I have visited /fast/ and snakeman's channel and actually planning on doing a 48h water fast tomorrow

cuz when my mom constantly talks about "healing her gut" and other 'just momscience things' i start to doubt it

Fuck 48 hours. Won't do shit. Need to go over 3 days. Good luck.

I'm glad once I had health problems I didn't turn to Jow Forums for advice...

Almost all of those are literally retarded suboptimal diets.

>Snake diet
Retarded and literally subtobptimal for body composition and not to mention fucking compliance.
>Vegan diet
Incredibly restrictive
>Primal diet
Literally a meme, unless you're willing to eat mussels and deer and rabbit and a bunch of non existing animals for the rest of your life.
>Keto diet
Literally a fucking shit diet fad, a diet that has the mere purpose of making you reach ketosis is retarded, not to mention all peoples that have been on a "ketogenic diet" are not shown to be in actual ketosis since their bodies build up a resistance to ketosis itself by upregulating gluconeogenesis to insane levels, just like carnivores do. Meaning that you need MORE dietary protein on a very low carb diet, meaning that the vast majority of keto diets are retarded since they intentionally limit protein intake which is the most important and benefitial nutrient.
>paleo diet
Same shit as the primal diet but slightly better even if it's not based on anthropological evidence. No, your domesticated berries are not paleo, neither is your beef or pork chop or cooking oil.

>vegetarian diet
Literally the only diet in that shit list that is sustainable, a diet rich in fruits/nuts/seeds, raw milk, sea food and eggs is perfect.

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alright man thanks

Well then perhaps you should read some scientific journals and understand how the gut works.
It's memey because it isn't well-understood at the moment which allows for companies to take advantage and sell snake oil bullshit to easily-manipulated people.

However, the only known methods of healing the gut are:

>Diet
>Fasting
>Lowering stress
>Probiotics
Sure, some supplements may help, but there isn't a lot of solid scientific evidence to support them.
>Moderate evidence for:
Quercetin
Collagen
Glutamine
Among others

What about intermittent fasting?

>I JUST WANT TO HEAL MY GUT AND GET RID OF MY PSORIASIS

Either go meat + water (preferably beef, the least allergenic of the meats) or do a prolonged fast (5 days is really good and quite safe).

Look into carnivore after, though. Many people seem to get healed from these sorts of ailments

I have HAshimoto's so I'm on Autoimmune Paleo as well. Sucks that I have to do this for life :(

>>Vegan diet
>Incredibly restrictive
said only by people who haven't done it

There's no benefit in it in comparison to regular meal timings, in fact all mammalian animals tested on meal frequency are more muscular and less fat when distributing their nutrition more evenly throughout the day.

Maybe one roidfag or two online with amazing genetics might be able to cope with it long term, but they also "fast" with amino acid supplements so basically they're never really fasting.
Martin berkhan is one of those guys, he's never really fasting that long, he's always consuming isolated amino acids throughout the day, or at least consuming them in the morning.
There's also 0 benefit in fat loss in sticking with IF as opposed to regular meal timing when controlling for macronutrient and total caloric intake, meaning that there is only possible downsides and 0 benefits.

Eating 2 big meals, one massive breakfast and a massive dinner makes more sense, it keeps muscle protein synthesis elevated more evenly.

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>do a prolonged fast
dry/snake juice/water?

that sucks user, best of luck and courage to you

Ok m8 thanks. What you say makes a lot of sense actually. I'm running a 500 kcal deficit currently and it's pretty comfy, been eyeing IF/keto for a while, but it just seems like veganism (i.e. a form of light mental disorder). So many people are defending it but their claims pretty much end up being "wow you will feel so much better, even Plato was fasting all the time!"

Doctor friends of mine also tell me that eating only 1 a day (a la IF) is bad because you make your whole digestive system under huge stress due to it being forced to process all that food in a short amount of time, instead of evening it out during the day.

I also have no problem eating at a given deficit, so "it's just so easy to control your weight with IF!!" is a retarded argument as it doesn't seem to apply to me.

I was 100% plant based for 7 months.
You're out of your mind if you don't think a vegan diet is restrictive, good luck getting enough leucine on a vegan diet without carrying around bags of protein powder with you on holidays.
Also vegan dishes at restaurants suck ass usually filled with shit ingredients and macros and they taste bad for their cost.
I was in spain for holidays and it was a fucking nightmare to go out with friends at a place I could eat too.
Christmas dinner with family is impossible.

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Eat cum diet

OP here. What do you think is the most optimal diet for the majority of population looking to build muscle and be healthy? (Not exactly for me at the moment, but generally)

Stop being a fucking retard, anything that forbids you to eat food is by definition restrictive. Not being able to eat
>literally any dairy
>literally any food
IS EXTREMELY RESTRICTIVE, per definition.
>but hurr I can be a vegan and eat with a huge variety
Well guess what, I can do that AND MUCH MORE, because my diet isn't restricted as fuck. Literally per definition, my choice of foods are at least thousandfold more diverse than yours.

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Edit: Meant to write "literally any meat" instead of "literally any food"

>leucine on holidays tho
>vegan dishes at restaurants suck ass tho
>can't eat with non-vegans in spain tho
>christmas dinner tho
you're such a whiny faggot, no wonder you failed

scoobysworkshop.com/nutrition/

Eat whatever you want if it's healthy. Diet is a meme, equilibrium is the way.

This here. Diet isn't necessary, stop with the memes.

I didn't say it wasn't restrictive. I said it wasn't incredibly restrictive.
>literally any dairy
hurr what's plant-based milks, what's plant-based icecream, what's plant-based cheese
>literally any meat
hurr what are plant-based meat substitutes. if you're living in the US, there's not a single food in your diet you can't replace.

I already know your next argument - but I can eat those foods too, veganism is EXTREMELY RESTRICTIVE REEEEE

>plant-based meat substitutes
Oh yeah, I've seen those at a "vegan festival" that was in my city. I'm sure those things that are filled to the brim with preservatives, aromas, and chemicals are a gggrrrreat and healthy way to substitute meat.

>healthy way to substitute meat
then eat lentils

>vegetarian
>sea food

Pick one

But where's the science behind these diets or foods to treat and cure an irritable bowel you fucking retards?

thanks i'm reading this

Not him, but I already answered the question hereNo one dared to debate me

*burps*
*farts*
*bloats*
*sharts*

Yeah man, just get 2x the fiber RDA in a single meal, sounds like a great idea, after all our digestive system is equal to that of a gorilla.

made me kek

nobody's telling you to eat over 600g of lentils in one sitting

Majority of the population? Hard to give recommendations like that for the mere reason that a lot of people have allergies to foods homo sapiens has been eating for hundreds of thousands of years, but pretty much every single human being is able to thrive on meat and dairy and fruit.
Some people have weird allergies to nuts or peanuts and sea food but they are clearly a small minority.

Have some weird intolerance to conventional milk? Then just get other dairy products like cheese and yogurt, some cheeses are incredibly nutritious, some have really high ammounts of vitamin K2 which is one of the most important vitamins that almost everyone is deficient in.

Meat is digested incredibly well by anyone, every human being is able to eat it and thrive on it, even people who got their large intestines and even bits of their small intestines removed can eat meat and thrive on it, whereas plant matter is incredibly hard to digest and its capacity also depends on genetics and upbringing.
Every single mammal is made to eat dairy, if someone has some intolerance to a specific product like conventional milk lacking in lactase or casein A2 there are alternatives out there so it's no excuse.

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t. Dairy farmer

Based, fuck plantcucks

I lift more and look better than you, guaranteed.
In fact I look severely better than any vegan I met.

There's a reason why good looking bodybuilding vegans attract many people online, because they are a very tiny minority going against the common belief of the mainstream fitness dogma(which exists for obvious reasons).

Yeah man, I am just gonna eat heavy pesticide containing foods in order to feel better about my superior perfect diet that has literally never been tested on humans for longer than 5 generations because some weak pencil necked doctors on youtube told me to.

>i shit
>not

A normal vegan diet it better. There is literally nothing you can get paleo that you cant get on a vegan diet, except for mercury and a ton of artificially added hormones.

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what diet is best gains to cost ratio?
most cost efficient?

Wtf are you talking about like half the world can't tolerate dairy.

and to op def do 16 or 18 hour fasts it was the most help to me
t.destroyed gutlet

> all peoples that have been on a "ketogenic diet" are not shown to be in actual ketosis since their bodies build up a resistance to ketosis itself by upregulating gluconeogenesis to insane levels, just like carnivores do.
Cite sources for this, sounds like you just completely pulled this out of your ass.

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>about like half the world can't tolerate dairy

l m a o

Literalyl all mammals are MADE TO CONSUME DAIRY

If you are a genetic deadend with no lactase persistance throughout adulthood then just eat some fucking cheese and yogurt or fermented milk, there are MANY dairy products that humans consumed before lactose tolerance even became the norm.

>Cite sources

Here you have it
chrismasterjohnphd.com/2017/10/26/inuit-genetics-show-us-evolution-not-want-us-constant-ketosis-mwm-2-37/

All artic peoples have extremely high rates of a genetic mutation that makes them INTOLERANT TO FASTING due to their lack of ketone synthesis and their upregulated gluconeogenesis.

>nothing to add
dumb animu shitposter

Try one and see if it helps? If it doesnt after a few months try something else? Paleo makes the most sense to me logically but my stomach isnt made of paper so I dont eat that way.

But studies show Fasting improved longevity, HGH and mental focus, in addition of insulin regulation and autophagy. I can tell from experience, doing OMAD and Dry Fasting significantly improved my energy levels and mental clarity. I can lose fat AND build muscle very easily while fasting, which a damn nice benefit.

Cow, goat, or any other milk is made to be ingested by their offsprings, not by humans.
Milk is very hard to digest and fucks up your hormones (estrogen). Fermented milk like yogurt and kefir are good in moderation

SuperSaiyan

>he doesn't know about the pescetarian diet

SCD
Specific Carbohydrate Diet

most people with IBS, Crohns, Celiac have problems handling complex carbs. Psoriasis can also be a symptom of celiacs

so, idea is to get all the complex carbs out of diet, and let the gut settle down. After it settles, then you add back in one at a time, to find out what your are reacting to.

or just go keto, you are almost there anyway

the broccoli is touching the raw chicken

can't unsee

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Yes, way to ruin the perfectly nice chicken with poison plants.

>All artic peoples have extremely high rates of a genetic mutation that makes them INTOLERANT TO FASTING due to their lack of ketone synthesis and their upregulated gluconeogenesis.
I can understand this logic. I'm not partial to keto diets even after being on one for 6 months. It does work good initially after transitioning from higher carbs, but it's effectiveness seems to trail off after about a month or so. Once you lose that initial shock, you seem to adapt and weight loss slows or stops without tracking calories.
I see from your earlier post that you cite vegetarianism to be superior to the others listed. Is this the diet you follow, or were you just giving opinions on the diets listed?

Ignore the Jow Forumstard

>I lift more and look better than you, guaranteed.
>In fact I look severely better than any vegan I met.
and? this has nothing to do with veganism being >incredibly restrictive

>There's a reason why good looking bodybuilding vegans attract many people online, because they are a very tiny minority going against the common belief of the mainstream fitness dogma(which exists for obvious reasons).
this says absolutely nothing about whether the bodybuilding vegans are right or not, it just says that they're going against the general belief.

>Yeah man, I am just gonna eat heavy pesticide containing foods in order to feel better about my superior perfect diet that has literally never been tested on humans for longer than 5 generations because some weak pencil necked doctors on youtube told me to.
instead you're going to eat food that ate the pesticide containing foods (you think those pesticides went anywhere?), food that contains cholesterol (hello cardiovascular disease) , mammalian estrogen (hello gyno tits), saturated fat, IGF-1 raising protein (hello cancer gains), etc that has been linked to a lot of diseases that plague us
also mind you something not being tested isn't an argument against or for something. it just means it hasn't been tested and you don't know the effects of it. for all you know it might be the best thing you could do.

Eat tons of fruits, veggies, legumes, tubers, and eat lean meats. Try to eat 60 grams of fiber a day. Drink a gallon of water a day. You'll feel great, don't fall for retards telling you not to eat carbs LMAO.

is that a forehead or 5head goddamn

dont listen to what people say, and do ur own research loser. there is so much good research out there. if u arent stupid u'll be rewarded. gl faggot. but the answer is vegan

They all come down to the same thing that will always hold true.
Don't eat processed foods, eat foods that are as natural as possible.
Don't eat sugar and highly processed grains.

I have this too, it sucks mad balls, bro.

the same thing happens to me, second time on keto I lost no weight even at zero carbs unless i tracked calories. The first round of weight loss was mostly just suppressing my hunger.

the best diet is the one you can keep going, of all the ones i tried fasting / omad seems to stop the depression that comes with cutting.

Any diet that redistricts calories will make you lose weight but the failure rate is 90% because of the rebound over 5 years. Fasting is apparently the only one to not destroy your Ghrelin levels and metabolism n shit and cause a rebound over 5 years. Although stuffing yourself with fibre probably works too

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>Milk is very hard to digest
If you are a non white shitskin yes you can't.

>estrogen
fake news, soyboy. Only applies to commercial amerimutt milk.

>TFW the food chain is adjusted to account for vegans and there's a brand new type of meat to try

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just combine them all.

>paleo diet
no processed shit, you should be doing this anyway
>keto diet
no sugar, no starches, this is essential for healing your body
>primal diet
no idea what this is, sounds like a paleo offshoot
>vegetarian diet
this is dumb, forgoing meat but keeping dairy is braindead
>vegan diet
this is even dumber, you should never not eat meat, but try cutting dairy
>snake diet
This is one meal a day? this is good as long as you keep it keto, otherwise it's gonna suck if you aren't used to fasting

go on a high fat, medium protein diet and get all of your carbs from high fiber, non starchy vegetables

once you re fat adapted, try restricting your feeding window until you reach one meal a day

if that doesn't help with your problem, you could try water fasting, which is very easy to do if you are already in ketosis and used to eating only one meal a day

Mediterranean diet is pretty good. Optimize it for more protein intake and cut out the red wine if you're afraid of the alcohol gains goblin.

they are full of shit and small when roids are not included

Swallow a gazelle whole every two weeks.

>heal gut
also yogurt, leafy greans, beans. Fart big or go home

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>no processed shit, you should be doing this anyway
why
define processed

m.youtube.com/watch?v=fy8nuoz_QfU

He's definitely insane. That said, the diet might still work okay.

>Meaning that you need MORE dietary protein on a very low carb diet, meaning that the vast majority of keto diets are retarded
Is there a diet like that with massive amounts of protons and fats but almost zero carbs that's healthy?

>heal my gut
Remove grains and wheat, they damage your villi and cause inflammation
Take a probiotic and it eat fermented foods

straight shota

>>snake diet

have we memed this man too far?