Is he natty, Jow Forums?

I think he is. Anyways I really enjoy athlean X, it's really been helping me cut up and expose my abs. The conditioning has made me much more versatile as well. My stamina is top tier now I can run the mile in 6 minutes.

His post is literally 100% conjecture, not a single fact has been shown in his 4 sentences, you stupid fuck

Any answer to the question would be conjecture since we don't have any solid evidence of him roiding, like him saying so himself. Unless we saw the scars on his buttocks or something we would have to extrapolate things to get and answer, otherwise we wouldn't be asking the question, idiot.

Reminder that he only deviates from his healthy diet once a year, on his birthday.

>i can't obtain fact so it's ok to pretend that my head story are facts

keep telling yourelf that a guy struggling to bench 2 plate is on roid because he's always lean

Hmm, is that diet available anywhere?

Wow you didn't meme op

If you have to ask, he isn't

hi spastic, hows special school today?

Uh there is a fact there....you can’t maintain low bodyfat as a natural permanently without drug assistance due to the fact your testosterone production is fucked at single digit bodyfat for long periods of time, let alone year round for years on end

>you can’t maintain low bodyfat as a natural permanently without drug assistance

that's not a fact, first off there are a lot of extremely thin people year around, so it's plain wrong, what you meant is you can't be muscular and very lean, that's a bold statement, especially since things aren't black and white but on a spectrum

ur a tard
kys

>in and out of the gym in 30 minutes
how

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No. He is weak and shit and does only meme lifts. If he was OHPing above 1.5plates and inclining 275 and doing heavy heavy chin then his muscle mass would be warranted. I just don’t see the reason why he should be maximumly developed with shit strength - this is why I believe he runs a natty dose.

Not true, you're just obese

Theyre skeletons, exactly. You cant be single digit bodyfat like AX is year round and hold onto muscle as a natural lifter. You will just turn into a skinny cunt as your muscle will wither away due to rock bottom testosterone levels onset by long period of low bodyfat.

Do you actually think people enjoy regaining fat after a cut? No of course not, but after you’ve been extremely lean for awhile you begin to lose muscle unless you start refeeding back up to a higher bodyfat.

You’re fooled by all the fake natties who maintain single digit year round. KYS you ignorant fool.

Based

This.

I know a guy that competed naturally and he dieted down so lean that his testosterone production actually shut off and now he’s on TRT for life. Many such cases for guys who are truly competing naturally.

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This explains a lot. I’ve been at 5-6% since last summer and I’ve been lifting 4-5 days a week but I’ve lost about 4 pounds of muscle in this time frame. When I eat more, my bf goes up, and when I eat less, my muscle goes away. It’s easier to maintain at higher bf%, anecdotally.

The fuck?
Why in the hell do you want to maintain at 5% bodyfat?
It's hell on earth.

spbp

Yep. This is why testosterone is so important. Natural testosterone production is horrible at low bodyfat levels, and thus your nutrient partitioning becomes shit, as you experience now with muscle coming off easy and fat gaining easy while at that low bodyfat percentage.

10-15% bodyfat is going to be the best place for a natural lifter to be. Gaining phase maxed out at 15%, cutting phase maxed out at 10%. Staying within that range is most optimal for strength, size, and overall health.

This. He may not be blasting but he's on something.

Im naturally lean and had single digit body fat year round before I started lifting year round, and now I still have single digit body fat when lifting

Most likely cruising on moderate amount of testosterone. It is the only way to be that lean and hold onto your muscle permanently.

He's not BLASTING but he's definitely on TRT.
He's also more then likely on Human Growth Hormone.
It's basically the fountain of youth.

But you’re a skinny dyel.

And you don't have any real lifts.

fucking idiot.

You sure sound like an expert.
Post body so we can see how elite you are

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>>Theyre skeletons, exactly. You cant be single digit bodyfat like AX is year round and hold onto muscle as a natural lifter. You will just turn into a skinny cunt as your muscle will wither away due to rock bottom testosterone levels onset by long period of low bodyfat.

You can repeat that as much as you want but that's still like literally nothing more than a story in your head

Except that he has extensive nutritional knowledge and is very strict and repetitive about his diet (i.e. he always eats the same things in the same proportions). It's ridiculous that a high level fitness expert, with a good credentials, is getting called out by some nobodies on some anime image board. You guys are the real pros, no doubt.

In any event, I don't doubt he isn't completely natural, he is, get this: old. He most likely does not have the same testosterone levels as he did when he was younger, he's probably on TRT which allows him to even be more consistent with his physique. Get off the hate train, guys.

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Being an expert doesn’t make your body immune to the reality of how the human body responds when forced into a prolonged state of extremely low bodyfat levels.

I don’t understand why this is so hard for some of you people to understand.

Consider that maybe you do not know everything, and your information about how the body works might be incomplete and or flawed. Not even top level academics (like Helms) speak so categorically about this topic. I find it amazing that people can only see themselves as an authority and then call out someone with far more experience and credentials than they do.

I don't understand why this is so hard for some of you people to understand.

He's right, just stfu.

You’re the kind of guy to give the benefit of the doubt to every single steroid user and claim they must just have some special kind of knowledge or insane genetics, when in reality it’s one thing: steroids.

He could just be on clen.

Not a steroid, tho by normie standards it is.

Clen is like uber-epinephrine. Ramps up fat oxidation while sparing lean tissue. It would also help mitigate the negative long-term hormone effects of being that lean.

Nigga, stop.
He's on TRT and probably a bit of HGH.
It's fucking obvious to everyone on the board.

He looks great and he knows his shit, he's not like those assholes who blast grams and lift and look like shit while claiming to have all of the answers and are super fucking natty.

Hell, if the guy was honest about TRT and HGH the men in his age range would be lining up to watch his vids and talk about that kind of thing.

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He CAN be. The guy does this for a living, his cheat meal is one carrot cupcake a year on his birthday for fucks sake. He´s been doing this for 30 years.

He doesnt have to be natty, but he very well may be. Soon enough he will start TRT if he hasn´t yet.

Also keep in mind that he gets a pump and dries out for his videos, that´s him at his absolute best look.

I don't think you understand the argument. I'm not even necessarily disagreeing with him, you mong, I'm stating that nothing is so cut and dry when it comes to the body, and it might very well be that his knowledge on the topic is incomplete, and that a high profile expert might know more. I'm not sure how this is controversial.

The way this argument goes, is just like if the OP had asked if you could gain muscle while cutting and have someone write "first law of thermodynamics brah, you can't" or "maybe if you're making noobgains, it's impossible otherwise". This wouldn't be so wrong, except that there's evidence that at a reasonable caloric restriction the body can build muscle. Nothing is so cut and dry. Hope you got it this time around.

Not in the least, but of course one can only be on one extreme or the other according to some the pros on this board.

For real, I already said he's probably on TRT. The HGH bit sounds retarded, and is, again, characteristic of the pros in this board.

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His mass is certainly attainable natty and he will 100% get a moderate full body pump before recording his videos so he won't look like this all the time. As others have said though his low body fat and dryness are questionable

Yea but ladies love it, though I live in Manhattan so it’s not like i show it off

Skinny face is fetishized here in the world of finance and consulting so like :/ kind of have to have that dry jaw and cheeks for career reasons since I have a baby face and look 16 as a 24 year old man

Why not take weekend trips to the Hamptons?

5% would be stage ready. I highly doubt you can keep that without problems.

>beta

Still stuck in the highly-categorizing symptoms of autism, huh?

you're so close to being right, but this guy has very little muscle on him, so i would say he is natty.

assuming by natty you include fat burners. but i'm fairly sure he's not on gear.

I do just not in the winter lol

5.6%, could be off by a bit, idk

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what's your weight and heigth?

just run the numbers, and LOL, at a BMI of 21.7, you'd only be 160lb at 6 foot!

>user, what's a meme?
What's your answer?

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Basically it's an idea perpetuated through culture. Though nowadays people use it interchangeably with "joke".

You're a teenager.

all of those 'fitness experts' on youtube like this are on gear, they have to for monetary reasons.

he also made a video being all butthurt about people saying how ridiculous that Baywatch guy zac whatever's transformation was and saying that was natty.

I just do his 8 dumbbell workouts 3 times a week and it just works desu

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B A S E D

He literally just works out for a living I don’t see how his lack of fluctuation is a sign that he roids

What are they? Honest question. I am new.

Just watch the video dude

I am 162 last time I checked