>The Millenia old tradition of women tricking beta males into raising the children of alpha males is drawing to a close due to the advent of DNA testing
>Women will have to accept the inferior genes of their dipshit long term partners if they want the child support moolah
The next generation is going to be very mediocre. Most wont make it
Mandatory DNA tests at birth.
t. small penis misogynist
This
That said I am a 22 year old khv ugly incel so I won't ever need it
We're about to enter a dark era in the wake of women's lib. I preface that anti 'women's lib' is not anti women but most women have bought into their 'liberation' hook line and sinker. I predict in the next decades in the west we will see a change into one or more of the following options: complete decay of monogamous marriage (already happening due to courts), increase in 'test tube babies' for post wall roasties, a return to covert or even overt harems, and polygamy. In the coming decades, the pussy divide between chad and beta will increase massively, as true chads going forward will have the nutritional, economic and intellectual abilities to far outreach common betas. Now that Pandoras vox has been opened in regards to porn and female hypergamy in the age of social media, only the best, richest and most aesthetic will be good enough for long term relationships. The middle 80% will be in a purgatory of cheating, infidelity and unsatisfaction. Ironically, the ugliest bottom rungs will find faithfulness in their common resistability ala the morbidly obese couple. Brave new world indeed!
We need to meme it as a health issue.
>preventive medicine starts in childhood why wait until issues pop up!
Change your beta ways or you'll end up being the in OP's pic
>have to compete with thicc sex dolls and soon robots
>artificial womb is being researched
>paternity testing kills "Alpha fucks, Beta bucks"
In France a paternity test is illegal, and in many US states you still have to provide for the child even if a test shows you are NOT the father.
It's a women's' world.
Tax betas so Chad can breed at will. Only Chad genes should be allowed to propagate
I'm too ugly to even be beta bucks for women. Women don't even let me orbit them
>imblying that Chad's kids will grow up to be Chads whilst being fathered by betas
post pic
This. The only problem right now is that you have to ask for it after the fact, which leads sluts to create a stigma about it to put men off and start yelping 'Don't you trust meeee?'
If everyone had to do it it would just be the done thing and we could all be a little more secure.
Only because the goverment doesn't want the burden of alimony instead. You can do a paternity test in another EU country, but I'm not sure if you can use that somehow later on.
If you have access to your own child, you test them yourselves. Get a DNA sample and send it in with your own. There should be no reason you can't DNA test yourself and your child without the mother knowing.
Women will never grasp that. "mothers baby, fathers maybe". Because they can always be 100% sure that their offspring is their own.
I decided long ago that I'm going to DNA test every single one of my children.
not even taking a chance or spending one more penny on someone elses kid
Some countries like France make it illegal for paternity tests child without the mothers permission. It's literally illegal to test if you're the dad of the child and they'll throw you in jail if you try. Germany and some other euro countries may be trying to follow the same policy.
came here to write this,
State regulated mass cuckery
But what this again will lead to in time could be interesting. Beta uprisings and such, so lift like your life depends on it, because it just might.
1 chad vs 100 billys, get ready to slay both pussy and betas
>my dads taking it better than I am
As a male you literally have one job in its existence and it’s to produce offspring, if you just found out the child you’ve raised to adulthood isn’t yours there should be nothing stopping you from murdering your whore wife and her kid other than your brain being completely taken over by soy and Disney movies
funnily, r1b Y-DNA is most common in Chad... and in Western Europe :o
delusion
this
You say all this like it’s a bad thing. Women are better off sharing a good man than having a mediocre one to themselves. Good men are better off with multiple women than just one. So all women and 20ish% of men are better off; that’s a net positive. Polygamy is the future my dude, embrace it and work hard to become one of the ones who get multiple women.
what the fuck? please don't reproduce
Unless you want to live in a functional society.
This, tests for every baby! Think of the children!
Although maybe we shouldn't be trusting the state to do it given how gynocentric they are.
Yeah, Mormons are known for being super dysfunctional.
If you're really worried then do a test, maybe you should even if you're not so these idiots that post these fantasies can't get into your head.
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>Women will never grasp that. "mothers baby, fathers maybe". Because they can always be 100% sure that their offspring is their own.
Not every time... Nobody tell my girlfriend but when we wanted children i had sex with and impregnated a more suitable mate (better genes). while gf was passed out drunk i preformed a small procedure to introduce the fertilized egg to her womb. She woke up the next day throwing her guts up, thats when i planted the idea in her head that she might finally be pregnant. Safe to say shes coming along nicely. First reverse cuck in history?
I take it your not in a serious relationship
mormons are not their own society
>which leads sluts to create a stigma about it to put men off and start yelping 'Don't you trust meeee?'
don't have a relationship with a hoe, problem solved
fuck off roastie
Don't have a fucking baby with someone you don't trust, you mongoloid. And if you're just a pathologically terrible judge of character, don't mate.
Wut
>illegal to test if you're the dad of the child
Sure. We believe you.
This may seem weird as fuck but I actually dmed this guy asking for an update. He said his mother got schlonged at a work party by a friend of a coworker and didn't get his name. So he used the ancestry site and found his biological father through grilling his 3rd cousins who were also registered on there. Science is wild
>paternity tests are illegal
The absolute state of europe
Only works if you can somehow provide and protect with those males who get to breed. It's already clear that west is losing that battle against much more patriarch cultures. Also with that kind of system the retarded mongoloid women get to breed which is not good. Would much prefer monogamy where high iq people would just breed a lot between themselves and maybe throw some pity to the less fortunate just to make their lifes bearable so they actually work for the system.
Let the roasties hit the floor, let the roasties hit the wall
Relevant section from French penal code
>The study of the genetic characteristics of a person for purposes other medical purposes or scientific research, or their study for medical purposes or scientific research without having obtained the person's prior consent pursuant to the conditions set out under article 16-10 of the Civil Code, is punished by one year's imprisonment and a fine of €15,000.
In French justice system, the right of the child to preserve his/her genetic information simply trumps the right of a parent to see that genetic information. It's not specifically anti-men or pro-women, that's just an unfortunate consequence due to the biological difference between men and women.
Paternity tests aren't illegal anyway, you can dispute paternity and get a court-ordered test.
get confident, and the looks will follow. not even memeing
I want to believe
This is the quality content I come here for.
When has a woman taking "superior genes" in her cooch actually resulted in a child that is better for society? It's just residual evolutionary shit that hardly applies. Ugly betas are generally more capable of innovation and intelligence.
This. Feminists will let this pass. We're fucked.
roasties buttmad about getting murdered lmao
So take it out of the country?
Fuck this I'm never getting married. Holy shit this website has deprived me of all trust and faith in the female sex. I wish I was fucking gay.
While I have my doubts about marriage and kids, I’ve told all my past girlfriends that I believe in paternity testing. I make it clear that it is a matter of principle and that it has nothing to do with her individually.
Also, I don’t bend to the “trust me” puppy eyes. It is hypocritical for a woman to demand a level of trust that she herself would never ever have to give you.
I take it you’ve never been to Utah.
Polygamy as I described it is a practical possible outcome given the current cultural state and trajectory. It’s not ideal; I prefer what you describe. But I see polygamy as a compromise between idealism and pragmatism.
It’s inadmissable in French court, it will only result in being held in contempt of court as well as having to pay.
It's just France, every year thousands of french fathers take DNA samples to spain or switzerland to make the test
Further, “trust” as a concept is highly abused.
Trust is what you do when no better evidence is available (due to cost, risk, or being impossible to get).
If your significant other wakes you up in the night and says, “we need to leave now,” you should probably trust that danger is close.
If that same significant other says “my friend has a great business opportunity,” you should do your own due diligence.
There’s a reason most women historically demanded marriage. They don’t trust men. They get solid evidence in the form of a marriage contract. Keep this in mind when women say “trust me.”
That should be considered a human rights violation.
user, if she ever says that at any point and doesn't just say "Okay when do we get an appoitment" or suggests a DNA test program then she's a ho.
No amount of trying to manipulate the cuck with trust bullshit is going to fix that.
>hey dear, I love you and all, but I suspect you might be lying to me and cheating on me, let's do a DNA test??
sure, if that kind of relationshit is the best you can do.
And?
A paternity test is on the same level of her wanting to know where I was last night or the night before.
A child can be born from a single 10 minute tryst. Pretending that they're mere existence can't be proof of cheating is retarded.
Her being all upset by men asking for a paternity test upfront rather then simply going along with it and being all for it speaks volumes about women and society.
It is basically a 100% admission and unbreakable contract in any court and proof of 100% loyalty...kinda.
You assume that demanding a test is an acusation of cheating.
It is not. It is simply documentation of evidence.
If evidence is easily available, trust is unnecessary and shouldn’t be relied upon at all.
>A paternity test is on the same level of her wanting to know where I was last night or the night before.
Paternity tests are on an entirely different level.
>Oh, well, they both indicate the suspicion of cheating.
Yes, BUT the consequences of that suspected cheating are nearly incomparable.
Let's assume that a married man is cheating on his wife with whom he has a child:
>she is still provided for, and *her* offspring is still provided for
>the event of divorce will not negatively impact her ability to ensure her offspring's survival (thanks to divorce and child support laws)
>the only negative consequence (for her) is that *some* of the resources that would be going to her and her child are going to another woman
Now let's assume that a married woman has gotten her husband to raise a child that's not his:
>this man's resources are being diverted toward a child that isn't his
>this de facto reduces that chances of his own biological offspring's success
>if this cuckoo child is the couple's only child, this lowers the chances of this man having biological offspring at all
The two situations are different by an order of magnitude.
>>A paternity test is on the same level of her wanting to know where I was last night or the night before.
>Paternity tests are on an entirely different level.
How?
Are you saying he can't have knocked up another woman?
>>Oh, well, they both indicate the suspicion of cheating.
>Yes, BUT the consequences of that suspected cheating are nearly incomparable.
No. Not in the fucking least. He could knock up another woman.
>Let's assume that a married man is cheating on his wife with whom he has a child:
>>she is still provided for, and *her* offspring is still provided for
>>the event of divorce will not negatively impact her ability to ensure her offspring's survival (thanks to divorce and child support laws)
>>the only negative consequence (for her) is that *some* of the resources that would be going to her and her child are going to another woman
user, he is under no obligation to provide for her and HER offspring.
If the child is genetically his then he should be under personal obligation to take care of the child even if the mother of said child was found wanting as a wife and partner.
>Now let's assume that a married woman has gotten her husband to raise a child that's not his:
>>this man's resources are being diverted toward a child that isn't his
>>this de facto reduces that chances of his own biological offspring's success
>>if this cuckoo child is the couple's only child, this lowers the chances of this man having biological offspring at all
>The two situations are different by an order of magnitude.
See above.
Face it.
There is no reason for men to not have reproductive rights in the form of DNA tests.
If women can decide to abort then men should be given DNA tests.
>You assume that demanding a test is an acusation of cheating.
no, it is an "accusation" of not being trustworthy. which is insulting to someone who's supposed to have your trust, like your woman
A woman worthy of trust would be upset but ultimately take the test, then spend the rest of her life rubbing it in her mans face.
Being completely upset at the accusation, so upset that she's willing to break up and or REFUSES to take the test means that she's not worthy of any kind of trust or personal investment.
>what is an ivf surrogate
user....have you ever heard of epigenetics.
Her poor dna will impact the health of the child.
you risk that she gives you the test, and it shows all is fine, but she breaks up because she want a relationship with trust and not one without
If she's willing to have the kid and planned a life together then she'll just have to deal with it.
If not, if this issue is that big of a deal, then it's probably for the best that they broke up.
Are you guys really this fucking beta? My kids look exactly like me. Just use your eyeballs.
Would rather have mandatory DNA tests.
if you live in the US and get a child while unwed you do not have to sign the birth certificate if the mother refuses a DNA test. if you are wed however you are the presumed father and you only have a narrow time frame to request a forensic paternity test so you have to do it ASAP or you will be forced to pay gibs till death
>which is insulting to someone who's supposed to have your trust, like your woman
LMAO, what a bunch of BS!
Historically, men never trusted their women. This is a recent invention. Why do you think cheating was a death penalty for women? Why did women need to be virgins? To ensure paternity!
No person on this earth is worthy of being trusted at their word regarding paternity. It is madness to even suggest that people should ignore evidence and declare a love for ignorance.
Well if theres need to be worry about me trusting you then wheres the issue, if youre honest you will havr no problem taking the test.
at least that would be my response
Seriously guys get a fucking paternity test because no one else will do it for you
geneticliteracyproject.org
>The ACMG recommendations do not take up nonpaternity at all. The Commission report does discuss it a bit, using it as an example of how disclosing an incidental finding for which no preventive or positive action can be taken “has the potential to cause anxiety and distress with no corresponding medical benefit.”
>The implication is that they’re against it. It’s not correct, though, to say there’s never a medical benefit. I recall two such cases from my clinic days. In each case, the father was suffering from a heritable condition and his children were at potential risk. Genetic testing, however, revealed that the patients had not fathered their apparent children, although neither they nor the children knew that.
>Sticky. The docs handled the cases with superb nonchalance, however. They happily told the families not to worry, that the tests had revealed the children were not at risk. They simply skipped explaining the reason why.
>My dad's taking it better than I am
>any grandsons my son might have are not actually mine
WHEW
>Historically, men never trusted their women.
because marriages were arranged by the parents, not the man and wife.
in modern time you get to choose yourself, which means you can filter out all the hoes and go for a proper girl, who you are certain won't go behind your back. if I'm not feeling certain then the girl isn't the right one.
Yeah because women definitely won't ever change as soon as babies come in to the equation. Get your heads out of your asses lads. Your perfect wife can give birth and become a complete bitch simply from post-partum depression. People can change, and that means for the worse, too.
>proper girl, who you are certain won't go behind your back
>Ugh, see honey, I told you the kid was ours.
>I want a divorce now that I know it's ours
Lol
>anime poster
>faggot
every time. just because you are too degenerate to land a quality woman doesn't mean they don't exist.
Then don't mate, you paranoid weirdo.
I'm not saying don't have children, but claiming that all you need is a perfect judge of character is bullshit.
Okay.
But the judge will look at her like she's fucking retarded and award her no alimony.
No such thing as a "quality" woman user.
Hedge your bets and don't fall for fantasy bullshit.
Marriage is a bad deal for men. It’s absurd. Nothing lasts forever in this world. Being stuck with one bitch for life is suicide. Once your realize this world is a holographic illusion, kids aren’t important anymore and are just financial and mental strains.
Use women for sex and move on. If she gets pregnant, disappear.
>le life is meaningless meme
Live up to your biological potential pussy
no. arranged marriage did not stop the need for the girl to be a virgin. women are garbage, if you think you can trust any woman you're inexperienced. it's a fact, not "random hatred" as you will indubitably propose.
>take this gamble, goy. 1/6 chances are good enough!
>women are untrustable
>n-no you're just paranoid!
moron.
>A guy knocking up another woman means she is forced to pay for that child
R E T A R D
I AM saying don't have children.
Then don't mate.
ALL OF YOUR PROBLEMS WILL BE RESOLVED WHEN YOU REALISE NO ONE IS PUTTING A GUN TO YOUR HEAD AND FORCING YOU TO GET MARRIED AND/OR HAVE CHILDREN
Eh. I used to be against marriage and children, and I fell for the meme that people that tell you 'you'll change your mind' are bullshitting.
But they're not, as you get towards the appropriate age you do start to consider the option of children in your future.
...
OH
You're looking at it from a woman's perspective.
I just thought you were stupid.
No, I'm saying that the man will be forced to pay for the other child, which will be money that is not going to her or their supposed child.
studies showed 1 in 4 babies born in europe are the result of adultery fucking lol at marrying women
>women are garbage
>No such thing as a "quality" woman
I sure do wonder why these guys can't get a proper woman to like them
I'm not against marriage and children. I'm against retards breeding and then bitching and moaning when it doesn't go their way as if they had no choice in the matter.
The Reddit bastards lmao
Well of course. People should become adults before having children, which should be common sense but isn't.
>retards breeding
>the scenario the entire thread us abiut
Are you dumb?