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Bodybuilders of old were posthuman drug abusers.
Yes even Sandow.

YOU VS THE GUY SHE TELLS YOU NOT TO WORRY ABOUT

Fucked up thing is, I'm the big banana, she cheated with a smaller guy because he was the skinny beta nice guy.
Don't date sweet girls who find you fun or naughty or a good time. They're only after one thing and see you as a funtime nothing more.
Date at your level, hot chicks who know what's up. Bonus points if they can hang when you're hung.

repostan from last bread
>12% bf (though it might be more like 15% since i dont have visible abs abs and theres still some belly fat)
>been lifting regularly and clean bulking at tdee+500
>sleeping 8+ hours a night
>have somehow lost 3 pounds over 48 hours
is this just the woosh effect? i thought that only happened when cutting
im also still eating 300-400g of carbs a day

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Explore more my friend. It sounds like you are doing very well living a comfortable life, but you need to see more. Traveling, music, drugs, God. Try lots of things and see which ones hook your interest

Really need a routine suggestion as I look to take the next step. Current lifts are 165/275/355/460 at 167 lbs.

Not sure if I want to commit to BB or PL but open to either.

Funny you should mention that, I did some drugs (weed lmao), then when the bad sides of drugs hit me I turned to God. Then I lost faith in God again, or atleast, fell away from his path. Then I tried to fill the hole with music, I started looking further into musical theory etc etc and bought a guitar, but quickly lost interest. Now I have a fucking flight to Japan booked in July.

I still feel dead inside...

AHAHAHAHAHA

I feel a bit of pain in my left elbow joint when I extend it. I was doing pull-ups for the first time yesterday, could that be the cause?

>75kg
>fast for several days
>72kg
>eat ONE (1) meal
>76kg

What the fuck is this shit?

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I'm going to fuck my girlfriend tonight and I want to try a new position, any suggestions?

Don't go too hard on your right hand, son.

What do you usually do now? Don't wanna suggest something you already do regularly.

How do I get my shoulders to stop cracking and popping when I lift them up and down. It hurts too.

Banana for scale xD

A lot of water absorbed in the food you are + shitty scale

I've done pretty much all the basic ones; missionary, doggy, both cowgirls, sideways, sideways doggy, standing, standing doggy. Unfortunately we have to keep it in the bedroom for now because she lives with some family, otherwise I'd take her to other rooms.

Leave Palmela Handerson out of this.

>lifting for two months
>my OHP is 0.75pl8 while my diddy is 2pl8
What the fuck? Shouldn't my diddy be way higher by now?

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One of my favorites is have her lie on her stomach and fuck from behind. You can get super fucking deep with is awesome. I like to slip one of my hands under my gf's tits and squeeze them while I fuck. Have her keep her legs mostly closed. My gf is coming back from out of town tonight and I'm gonna fuck her like this. I usually star from sideways behind and then just roll her onto her stomach for this one.

Alright thanks

I mean, are you a 120 pound think, or a 270 pound fatty? This matters.

Oh yeah we've done that. My gf has one of the nicest asses I've seen too so it's 10/10 positioning.

What's a good program to run while cutting? I'm 5'10 (178cm) and 190lbs (86.5kg) I'm trying to reach 165lbs while dieting + lifting and I'm looking for a routine/program that will help me reach my goal, I already know the big 4 lifts btw

Nice user, my gf also has a huge ass so it's super fun.
Hmm, you can try sitting on the edge of the bed and have her ride on top of you. I'm not super keen on that position but my gf loves it. Your face ends up right at titty level, so actually its pretty awesome.

I'm 180 lbs/82 kg and 6'1/185 cm tall

>Nice user, my gf also has a huge ass so it's super fun.
Ass-man for life. Good shout on the position. Weirdly enough edge of the bed sex is pretty quiet too.

ur dumb as fuck i cant believe ppl can be this dumb hnnnnnngggggggggg
think for a bit dude, do you really think u can lose 3 pounds in 48 hours eating like that? fuck ur stupid

Should i turn off the lights to have sex or nah?

Only if she's ugly. If she's hot why would you do that?

How do i reach this? Is one year reasonable?

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absolutely just tren hard, eat clen, anavar give up

gay

How much longer till sixpack? Bf% estimate?
Also, should I shave my tits

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How often should I do cardio and abs routine? Just do one day cardio one day abs after my normal session for three days a week each? Also when doing cardio should I focus on length or intensity?

right looks much better desu

nigga, all he did was slightly turn to the left.
trim every three weeks
Lift & low bf%. Depends on where you start.

>Kid is depressed
>"hey kiddo, try drugs"
Big brain nibba over there.
Did you deal with terrible shit from your childhood and growing up ?
How is your social life?
Im pretty much in the same place as you and I feel terrible because how terrible one of my parents was and I have 0 friends outside my co-workers and my gf.

count Cals/macros raw or cooked?

...

Its genetics, bro. Sorry

I'm trying to cut the fat off of my stomach and sides. I'm already thin (6'2" 167lbs) so there isn't much farther to go at all. It's taking a while to fully shed the fat from my stomach, like it looks good but not completely gone. Am I eating too many carbs? How much carbs is too much?

I actually spoke to my gf about this, and we concluded that I'm not acting like a man, and she doesn't respect me anymore because of it.
I get pissy about the slighest inconvinience like the pc lagging or construction sites blocking paths etc etc.
Also we found out I have no real paths in my life.
I could elaborate on this even further if you need me to, but I feel this paints the general picture.
So... how do I grow the fuck up and act like a man? Why isn't the love of my life enough motivation for me to stop acting like a little bitch?

Jow Forums, please make a man out of me.

Carbs don't make you fatter, calories make you fatter.

Shouldn't matter. I weigh with a gram scale after cooking.

Pic related recovery time for abs. They are just like any other muscle.
>Also when doing cardio should I focus on length or intensity?
Depends on what you goals are... do you want a fast as fuck 800m or 10k? Train accordingly. If you are trying to lose fat do HIIT and do half of what you would doing LISS.

15%

I got an air fryer and I have been eating a shit ton of hot wings. Is there anything wrong with getting most of my protein from these wings?

oop

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>no I want want to put it into myfitnesspal so idk how to weigh it
Uh huh...

Weigh it, eat it, then weigh the peel.

I'm lactose intolerant,so i have to drink milk that has glucose and on it,is it worse or i can drink it freely?

Can I make it without access to a gym? This town literally doesn't have one and none if the apartment complexes have anything more than treadmills.
Do I just do more push-ups, pull-ups and sit-ups to accommodate that? Should I just buy a plate for weighted and run around with it outside like a sperg?
I'm a skinny fat, lanklet who wants to be a better person.

USDA calculates calories of edible parts only.
Everyone else (myfitnesspal and such) uses their numbers.
Read both of those sentences and use your brain.

>Can I make it without access to a gym? This town literally doesn't have one and none if the apartment complexes have anything more than treadmills.
>Do I just do more push-ups, pull-ups and sit-ups to accommodate that? Should I just buy a plate for weighted and run around with it outside like a sperg?
>I'm a skinny fat, lanklet who wants to be a better person.

If you really wanna make it invest in a home gym if there are no other options.

You can look better by doing a very consistent calesthenics routine. But you won't look like you lift.

easy go easy come, fast is a joke

Easily attainable natty, he has great genes tho so gl ever having pecs or abs like that

Unfortunately I don't have my own place and there is no option for that. Really just here for school until I can finally transfer away but that's at least another year.
The best thing around here is a park and It's not even a park. It's a trail around a lake.
I hate this fucking town.

ah how i love the ignorant of history.

synthetic testosterone was first made in 1935 with nobel awarded in 1939. test-prop or testosterone-propionate possibly in use in athletics by 1939 or early 1940s, possibly by the soviets. in the 1940s, steroids were used to treat burn patients in hawaii military hospitals; in 1952 the hawaii weightlifting team beat the york barbell team in the national weightlifting championships, and this was the york team's first loss in 20 years. coincidence?

many articles claim dr. john ziegler conversed with a soviet weightlifting team doctor at the 1954 worlds about soviet use of testosterone. methandrostenolone aka dianabol/dbol was patented in mid-1950s and marketed by ciba pharma in 1958, and became well-known in bodybuilding and weightlifting circles from that time. by 1959 (maybe 1958 or 1960) dianabol was being used at york barbell on non-medal-contending weightlifters. by 1961, bob hoffman and york barbell started marketing "functional isometric training" in racks in their articles, but their test subjects had been using dbol since at least 1960 and that was what improved their results, not the isometrics lel. a 1965 article in strength & health claims ziegler was using testosterone on american weightlifters in the late 1950s; whether this was referring to the york team and the "isometrics" fraud, or to something else, is unclear.

dianabol was also being used by football teams such as san diego chargers and oklahoma sooners in 1962. bill toomey, us decathlete in 1968, admitted to having used them since 1967. bill starr wrote in strength & health magazine in 1971 that pretty much everyone at the 1970 us weightlifting nationals was a user. he also wrote about a young weightlifting and powerlifting trainee of his, mark rippetoe, who was experimenting with them as well.

as you can plainly see, pretty much any bodybuilder pre 40s, and most pre-58, will be natty. the 60s are a gray area. 70s and later can't be trusted.

buy a set of adjustible dumbbells
not ideal, but works for me, similar situation

What the fuck does press mean?

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>tfw never got an answer

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The Press user.
The (Overhead) Press

get practical programming 3rd edition and run a texas method 4-day split, and add db isolation for arms and shoulders and do some calf raises, and don't get fat.
or, do lyle mcdonald's generic bulking routine and make your main lifts all powerlifting variants at low reps.
either way is the best of both worlds.

try watching a nigger fuck her instead.

same program while cutting or bulking, just different diets

start by leaving her. no man who isn't a little bitch would stay with a women who doesn't respect him.
the pissy stuff ... realize that you aren't the center of the universe. it's your idea that you are, coupled with the cognitive dissonance from the universe reminding you that you're not, which is causing your frustration. it's about expectations. you expect things, you don't get them, you get frustrated. start with getting rid of unrealistic expectations.
finally, realize that self-esteem comes from doing esteemable things. try to do something worthwhile, anything, no matter how small, as long as you think it is worthwhile. nofap, noporn, reading a few pages of a good book, learning a skill, working out, etc. build on that.

no

it's fine. CICO and IIFYM.

good troll, namefag.

Just keep eating and going at the lifts. You're still in the beginner stages.

overhead press.

NEVER buy adjustable dumbbells.
get a set of Olympic dumbbell handles and some small Olympic plates. that way, when you get a barbell, you can use the same plates. it will be WAY cheaper AND better overall than adjustables.

THE PRESS

Can I do cardio whenever? I just finished lifting + eating. Can I do HIIT in like an hour?

How awful would it be if I had two glasses of chocolate milk a day to help meet my calorie goal?

Thanks, that's what I thought

Alright, I will.

Ffs this is the stupidest question I’ve ever read on here and that’s saying a lot

Never had a girl approach me before asking for my number. I was walking around in the park observing nature and feeling really sad, when I heard someone behind my back. Turned around, there was a girl I walked passed just a few minutes ago, she was sitting with a guy there. She wasnt that good looking or anything, short, abit chubby but with a really cute face, from spain. Asked me for my number, I asked her what about that guy, she said he was only a friend(tho it seemed like he wanted to impress her). She asked me if I use any dating apps, I said "why?" and she said "if you do i would swipe right hahaha". We talked for a while and then parted.

Man, this made my day. It was amazing. Never thought it could happen to me. Im physically fit but I dont think Im that good looking, but above average for sure. If a random girl liked me enough to approach, that means I can approach random hotties on the street too right?

Now the question is, if I see a girl I like on the street, how do I grow the balls to ask her out? I dont think most of them would reject me at once, and I could possibly land many dates, but how? Im scared as shit doing something like that. The thought of it is super cool but so scary. I had a few gfs before, but met them all through friends, so its not the same.

tldr; how to grow balls big enough to approach random girls on the street and ask them out?

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no one answered it yet

When should I take my zinc supplement? And how much? Two of 15mg per day?

It's not about balls. When you see the opportunity, you've got 3 seconds to act on it before you convince yourself to back out. Don't shame or guilt yourself, it's natural to have fear.

The only the thing that helps with this fear is experience and exposure - ie being rejected until it doesn't bother you anymore. Rejection is a natural facet to life, and the sooner that you face it and accept it, the sooner it will hurt less and less. Proud of you user, don't let this get you a big ego though.

The most important part is staying calm and natural, though. When you are nervous and awkward, it comes across as "creepy" because of the subtle nonverbal cues that go along with it. Keep this in mind, you will get better as time goes on.

Dumb question: Will doing push ups help work the same muscles I use for pull ups?

No question is dumb. Push ups will work your rotator cuff muscles a bit, but other than that they do not use similar muscles.

Push ups --> Pectorals, triceps, front delts, rotator cuff

Pull ups --> Latissimus, Biceps/brachialis, rotator cuff, rhomboids, lower traps, forearms, and teres major. Possibly rear delts too.

i wanted to score dates on the street aswell.

i warmed up by approaching anyone anywhere (guys, girls, elderly couples, u name it) and just said "hi". they would also respond hi (maybe alittle guarded cus who the fuck r u) and i would just say "im just looking to get out of my comfort zone, so i challenged myself to greet a stranger"

they would usually just say "cool" or "okay". some would respond with something and we would small talk.

then i would just excuse myself by saying "thanks, have a good day". and u are on your way.

gradually u become better mate. i managed to pick up a barista from espresso house, she gave me her phonenumber and then we fucked the next day.

just be honest bro. if you are scared shitless, start with people who are payed to be nice to you, like a barista. tell them u are nervous to talk to strangers. they will be nice cus they are payed to be nice. u will see its not that bad.

then talk to a stranger, maybe someone old. old people are often lonely and therefore more prone to respond positively to strangers talking to them.

just practice, eventually you become good at it.

havent though bout that barista for a while. damn i got game.

Not bad for a beginner

I cant leave her, she's too perfect. Call me a pussy, but I don't blame her, respect is earned, and I havent earned it.

I will ofcourse start taking actions against my irrational anger and general bitchness, BUT do you have any actual tips for how? Not that "realize u're being a faggot bro", but actual steps I can take, since we both know I'm a retard by now.

Also, if you've read my previous posts I've done some "esteemable" things, I shouldn't be feeling this way, but I do.
Perhaps it is the lack of respect from my gf that leaves me feeling like all the other things I do is worthless? So maybe by regaining her respect (or worst case break up) I will finally be at peace?

Thx for giving me this opportunity to vent btw

You have to stop posting this copy and pasted shit, even though you wrote it. It's wrong.

Natural Testosterone(animal testicular extract) ads have run since the early 1990s. In 1924, an ad boasted having 40,000 doctors prescribing it to patients. The effects were well understood at this point, including muscle building effect.

In 1937 synthetic Testosterone was commercially available. 1939 Strength and Health magazine, owned by Bob Hoffman, wrote an article on testosterone. One year later, John Grimek, who was on Bob Hoffman's bodybuilding team, wins Mr. America. A year after that, he puts on over ten pounds of muscle and wins again, stepping on stage with a FFMI of over 27. Bob Hoffman was very into alternative health even sold supplements. You honestly believe no one on the west coast tried testosterone for almost 20 years after the article?

The same Bob Hoffman that, in the early 60s, worked with Doctor Ziegler to give Dianabol to his team. After everyone started noticing the increase of mass, Bob told them it was due to his new program, isometric contraction and lied about the Dianabol to shill the program.

No body builder after the late 1930s can be confirmed natural. You're an idiot if you think steroids were not used until the 60s. Look at the archives of men on the Strength and Health covers. In the late 30s, they started getting a massive gain in size.

gosh, thank you

Hell, I'll make it easy for you:
musclememory.com/mags.php?mag=sh

No one was even close to the size of John Grimek until he one Mr. America twice, then suddenly everyone started really packing muscle.

Work as a bellboy
It's been helping me be less nervous and better at talking

early 1900s

I peel them in the store and throw the peels away. Only a cuck would pay for the peels too

What a fucking sissy,leave that dumb bitch you stupid eurotrash pussy

>just ruin your chance at a life with the love of your life
>dont reflect on your own wrongdoings and flaws, just continue being immature and give up
Go away Bubbah

user that banana is not ripe, ripe bananas are healthier and delicious

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yeah, thats why i wanna know if the 3 pounds were water weight or something else
thanks for the good answer regardless

I'm 5'7 and currently at 132lbs. I used to weight 200 pounds in the past and after a couple years I managed to reach my current weight. I'm feeling like shit because of the low weight, but I read everywhere about the lower-than-15%-bf meme and so I'm in the third week of yet another cut.
I'm currently following leangains cutting and eating 1300 on rest days and 1940 on training days.

I'm in the second moth of ICF because I like compounds and the three times a week thing is great because I don't have much time in the week unfortunately. Coming from brosplits the change feels great, but I have stalled on my lifts.

I'm wondering if at such a low weight I should just bite the bullet and keep cutting or if I should eat maintenance for a while and then slow bulk. I have like zero muscle mass and my best lift is an unfortunate 120lbs 5x5 squats. Unfortunately I'm probably like 16% bf at the moment using tape measurements, which is the only tool I have since I don't have access to any of the other fancy methodologies.

Opinions?

I dont really have a problem talking to strangers, not even girls. I go on a few tinder dates here and there and always have a good time just talking shit and what not. I go clubbing almost weekly with friends, meet some new people there, make out with some girls, occasionally bring some home that night, a normie life.

Its just that I want to take it to the next level and let ME choose who I wanna date, you know like talking to that girl for the first time that just takes your breath away, even though shes not even that hot, its just that your brains think youre compatable. Not some dating app that chooses you based on looks or alcohol. But its scary, i get stiff, which is pretty uncommon in normal situations.

Kinda like in the old days, to get that nice, romantic "how you met" story.