/no caffeine general/

I sleep a lot better without any caffeine. Even 1 cup per day will keep you up at night, just because you don't realize how tired you really are and don't go to bed.

quit caffeine. life has been PURE

youre gonna make it user.

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>tfw had to quit drinking caffeine because it gives me anxiety
Maybe I'm better off without it anyway

Yeah might as well do them all; /nofap/, /nocoffee/, /noporn/, /nomedia/, /nointernet/, /nolife/.
Fuck if I want to enjoy anything in life. We should all abstain from everything because that makes us a better person right? Because being the ultimate human is what we want to be. But what then? Would you really say that working at your goals 247, without any time off is really anyway to live?

I’m a solicitor. Us fuckers have 5-10 espressos a day. I’ve been on decaf for 3 days and already feel unbelievably cleaner minded. Is this a placebo or will decaf actually help?

coffee isn't that fucking bad kek. how god damn soft are you if coffee is this disruptive to your life.

I mean if we are all to live the longest possible lives and shit then we'd all be periodizing every last nutrient for optimum bodily function, but fuck, life is just dull that way. eating healthy and working out is fine, everything else is hypchondria, paranoia or plain boredom.

>I drink 8 cups of coffee and 6 scoops of preworkout a day
im not gonna stop fag

^^^
i pray for both of you kikes victim

OFFICIAL THREAD THEME:

youtu.be/v2H4l9RpkwM

read the op. you have ZERO net benefits from habitual consumption and you are falling for a simple psychological meme.

its the same with smokers who say they like the taste of cigarettes.

I don't get how people get addicted to caffeine to begin with
coffee only felt good the first time I drank it in my life at like 17 then I never touched it again after my third cup
soft drinks also make you feel fucking terrible

Fasted caffeine cycling masterrace. 200mg caffeine, 200mg theanine 1-2 days a week. All the benefits, none of the dependency.

>how god damn soft are you if coffee is this disruptive to your life
he fell for the "its legal so it must be soft" meme.

google the half life of this devilish juice and see why your sleep quality goes to shit. even after taking 25mg raw cocaine i can sleep better after 5 hours than on caffeine because of short half life.

Lmao how can you become addicted to coffee
Fucking coffee
Are you so weak you need it every fucking morning?
Delusional

this is definately better than daily consumption but i still think that its a meme because on days your taking it your sleep quality is different and your deep sleep phases also goes to trash. so your natural sleep cycle might suffer from it.

dude, lying in bed for an hour before dropping off isn't the end of the damn world. you need to relax. there are 12 year old girls drinking coffee in starbucks every day who can take it better than you

>Are you so weak you need it every fucking morning?
90% of burgers are. thats 300m retarded mutts.

>he isnt aware how many teenagers die of caffeine overdose
google is your friend

>how god damn soft are you if coffee is this disruptive to your life.
try quitting it and see how disruptive it is to your life

>how god damn soft are you if coffee is this disruptive to your life
And thats why you have so many caffeine junky comparing withdrawals to benzos/opiods? Really makes you think.
Just look how bad these people defend their addiction in these threads.

ultimate cuck thread.

Coffee has been around for a long enough time, if it causes all those problems YOU'RE just WEAK.

Most food products contain caffeine hope you know this, so you never really avoid it. I work for a commercial company, that creates a particular popular brand of packaged food and we implement caffeine as a non-listed ingredient in dosage of 45 - 75mg. Reason being is its boosted effects become associated with the food as well as mood enhancement, so every time you feel good after eating and you associate the food with that feeling.

HERE is the catch, our food tech say it isn't effective for people who are already happy as caffeine doesn't unblock your dopamine supplies so it never surpasses levels in which you release to much so that you comedown, there is literally no comedown other then going back to how your normally felt. Check pubMED for studies.

In other words if you are just fucked a coffee or caffeine temporarily brings you to a level where you aren't fucked as if you where normal. Problem in today society is the whole world is fucked and overworked. The only jew trick here is that we ignore the facts we are overworked and not sleeping enough,

kek. benzos withdrawal can kill you. caffiene withdrawal is a sore head.

like i said, you need to grow up and stop being soft. if coffee scares you this much then you are just a pussy, simple as that

nobody is talking about dark chocolate you fucking brainlet. we are talking about brainlets who need a 400mg preworkout or a pot of coffee to start the day.

Enlightening stuff. It's the same with opiate withdrawal. For the first day or two it is fun and you feel amazing and happy. Then you try to go a day without and you feel like shit... so you take some more. Eventually you are just taking it to feel normal and by that stage you know the withdrawals are going to be hell, so you keep taking it.

it doesnt scare me you brainlet. i was addicted to this meme for 5 years and i feel like a new born baby after quitting it.

i did months of research on this topic. the buzz is nothing but an illusion and 99% who tried to quit report it changed their lives for the better. you should try it aswell.

>the facts we are overworked and not sleeping enough
i never believed this. we have a more luxurious life than ever now. gone are the days of having to do 16 hour days in a factory or slave all day in the field.

The average half life of caffeine in the body is 5 hours and this varies a lot between people. That means if you have 3 cups throughout the day it is very likely that you still have 1 cup's worth of caffeine in your system by the time you go to bed.
This amount has been shown to decrease the length of time asleep and also drastically reduce REM sleep meaning you don't get restful sleep and you wake up tired and groggy. So what's the first thing you do then? That's right, have another cup of coffee.

i started drinking coffee purely for the taste and warmth about 6 years ago and i noticed no bad effects whatsoever.

take a few deep breaths, calm down, and stop being such a melodramatic manchild. i don't give a fuck how much research you've done or how enlightening cutting out coffee was to your boring life, you are blowing this way, way out of proportion.

>i started drinking coffee purely for the taste and warmth about 6 years ago and i noticed no bad effects whatsoever.
if its purely for the taste then go change to decaff tomorrow and report back.
protip: you cant and wont.
reason: addiction.

maybe during the industrial revolution, but all that is fairly modern, yes with the increase in population now seems more optimal then the great industrial boom which had no regulations and seen different classes of which people would abuse.

anything post industrial revolution literally came down to what people forced. Yes there were less regulations so probably a lot more corruption and people forced to work but for the majority no. Most people would work seasonally, meaning for the season or boom and live of that for the rest of the year.

In fact in recorded history there was nearly always days where everyone was not allowed to work unless permitted. Most days for peasents foraging was four to six hours as you couldn't work in dimmer light etc..

so you're completely wrong, In fact we use to sleep in two six hour phases look it up you fucking mass feeding fud fuck.

never have i "needed" a coffee, never have i felt withdrawal, and i regularly have days in which i don't have coffee at all. my view towards coffee is like my view towards eating an orange - if i want one i will have one, otherwise it doesn't cross my mind for a second.

you are a delusional, melodramatic baby who has been memed by the american philosophy of "virtually harmless substance X is evil so i must doggedly remove it from my life entirely". i've heard the same logic from people arguing about metal in tuna, cholesterol in eggs, hormones in milk and every other similarly garbage concern that seems to sweep over young, gullible, weak ass americans these days. just piss off.

decaff tastes like shit tho doesn't taste like coffee at all, give me a brand that does and I'll drink it.

I've been trying to quit for a long time, it's hard because I work a lot

>i regularly have days in which i don't have coffee at all.
There are basically no effects on day 1. You won't even notice. Go a month.

europepmc.org/abstract/MED/186223/reload=0;jsessionid=CzWm7s65jDRhoHPFzX4K.10

>giving any stimulant 15 minutes before bed will induce insomnia like symptoms.

Insomnia study was literally FUD

europepmc.org/abstract/MED/3284301

>heavy amounts
>MAY cause or induce anxiety or depression without pre-screening whether it was underlying

MORE FUD

Link me all the studies and I bet none of them had pre-screened who they tested it on, and will just say MAY or POTENTIALLY

>trusting advice from a woman

KEK enjoy being a soyboy faggot

Day 64, started to feel much better around day 50

You shouldn't consume dark chocolate either

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>packaged food
LMFAO eating package food in 2018

over my dead body, I'm ottermode and dark chocolate is my one true love

>if its purely for the taste then go change to decaff tomorrow and report back.

Decaf does not taste the same. At all.

>i never believed this. we have a more luxurious life than ever now. gone are the days of having to do 16 hour days in a factory

16 hour days only happened during the industrial revolution. Farm workers can only work at most when the sun is up and when the climate supports growing crops. In medieval Europe there were dozens of festival days every year when no work happened, plus every Sunday was no work. Overall, they spent a similar amount of time in their fields as modern workers - 2000ish hours a year. They worked harder at domestic chores, but they also got to eat 3000+ calories grass-fed meats and cheeses, organic whole grains, fresh vegetables etc. No ZOGchow in sight.

>Coffee has been around for a long enough time
Wow, is that an argument?

Then you're still in the caffeine cycle

M1R4
DansGame

>don't jerk off
>don't consume caffeine
>don't do drugs
>don't eat tasty things
>don't watch anime
>don't play vidya
>don't drink alcohol
>don't don't don't
What can we do then?

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her name is mira and is a twitch streamer. heres her ig user instagram.com/mira_twitch/?hl=en

its up to you user.

do you wanna be looking like a greek god with an intellect and mind like a true monk who is in peace with himself and is admired by everyone around him with his superior aura or do you wanna be a normie like 99% of the population who fell for kike substances and media.

on an average day i consume 1 sip and 1 scoop og pwo, there are some days Where it can be as high a 2 of each. Still i feel completely normal on days Where i don't consume caffeine, i've even went a month without any caffeine and did't Feel any withdrawls

Who here fell for the 'jews behind everything' meme?

there weren't any effects on day 1 of starting to drink coffee either, or a month, or 6 years.

Jow Forums would have you do nothing that is remotely enjoyable to larp as a templar knight. enjoy life, modern man has access to an enormous range of pleasures at low cost. it would be a shame to waste the opportunity. and do it now while you're young. young alcoholism is sexy, middle aged alcoholism is pathetic

Law school student here.

>4 kcups in the morning
>hugefuck starbucks ice coffee with 2 shots for lunch
>2 caffeine pills in the after noon, chased with a redbull
>occasionally pop an addy
Finals in 2 weeks. I'll stop then.

>meanwhile the cold hard truth:
>healthline.com/nutrition/top-13-evidence-based-health-benefits-of-coffee#section1
>healthline.com/nutrition/why-is-coffee-good-for-you#section1
>chaosandpain.com/tips/coffee-elixir-of-the-gods/
>chaosandpain.com/tips/5-amazing-things-about-caffeine-that-you-didnt-know/
>anabolicmen.com/caffeine-testosterone/
>sci-fit.net/2017/collection-supplement-vitamin-studies/#Caffeine
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2017/12/the-war-on-coffee-and-common-sense-or.html?m=0

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>being THIS much of a no brained single cell parasite KIKE

"In fact, many studies overestimated the positive effects of caffeine, because they didn’t exclude habitual caffeine consumers. This causes participants to be in withdrawal during the study and the so called positive effects of caffeine are then merely withdrawal reversal."

Also look who is behind most of these studies. protip: cocacola KIKES.

>being THIS much of a no brained single cell parasite KIKE
>Not reading then throwing around Ad Hominems proving you didn't read

I can and did switch to decaf due to anxiety issues a year or so back. I regularly dilute my coffee with decaf also based on if I started to get overly anxious the day previous.

Switching isn't a problem for me as much as I like coffee. I just don't despite my anxiety because I prefer the taste, the little come-up, and the habit. It's a habit for me more than an addiction.

That being said, I am increasingly moderating my caffeine intake. So maybe tomorrow I'll try to do just 100mg altogether which is about a standard cup and then peter out this weekend to no caffeine and try a caffeine free week following that.

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A lot of these sites are just blogs. Best thing to do is look at meta studies like bmj.com/content/359/bmj.j5024

>Most food products contain caffeine
And that's were I stopped reading, the rest was written in Hebrew.

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That shit fucked me up

I dunno I feel like I have a tendency to hold a lot of water, always have, and coffee balances that out a bit. I've gone off it for several months at a time & never noticed any huge improvements in my appearance, sleep, energy levels etc.

According to some ayurveda sources ppl with a lot of kapha can actually benefit from caffeine & similar stimulants, when used mindfully.

I need to break my kratom addiction first ok. Baby steps.

coffee and caffeine are different things but caffeine itself isn't so bad in moderation, especially if you are putting it to use and not just sitting at your desk trying to stay awake

Y'all have missed the biggest meta-analysis on the health effects of coffee - here's another big 'ole data point to add to your analysis:

bmj.com/content/359/bmj.j5024

The BMJ is a high tier journal and this is some of the best data we have on the mortality benefit of coffee. Within health care mortality studies are the holy grail, so much in medicine is poorly understood so it's important to pick good outcomes for your studies. Death is a pretty big one so mortality data is always well respected. This isn't as good as well designed prospective studies in large groups of people, but no one wants to pay for that shit, so retrospective it is.

Some highlights from the study

Coffee consumption up to SEVEN CUPS A DAY was associated with decreased all cause mortality

Greatest benefit was found at the 3 cup per day mark (note - the term "cup" is poorly controlled and not standardized across studies, but you get the idea).

Contained within is numbers on how coffee will reduce your risk for heart attack, diabetes (for any of you fat fucks), parkinsons, alzheimers, shit loads of cancer, and some other shit. It's even liver protective.

lots of these benefits may even be extended to decaf coffee

lotta kids in here saying stuff they know nothing about. I may go back through and negate some more claims if I have more time.

tl;dr best available data suggests that coffee makes you live longer and will reduce your chance of developing some of the most feared conditions.

I want to believe

so what if you get withdrawals? easily avoided by tapering
you get unambiguous improvements in cognition and athletic performance.
it makes you live longer.
and you avoid the sort of autistic shit that OP is on about.

>tfw coffee funded

He’s right, you know.

I noticed my dick is bigger flaccid when no coffee

And it looks huge when erected

This is when I quit, when I realised I was drinking two cups a day to simply stay awake.

Stopped drinking caffeine and I'm more focused and alert during the day.

There are also 12 year old girls that could out drink you. Don't be a fucking Brainlet.

Choose your vices wisely. I drink more alcohol than is healthy, but I'm happy to give up caffeine since I feel better without it.

>jew cocacola financed studies vs billions of anectodal evidence who managed to quit and go through hell withdrawal to be 100x happier in life

Noticed this aswell, my sleep cycle was also fucked. Glad I quit and am redpilled.

>no caffeine

fuck off, I'd rather die than give up morning coffee. I drink it black. I get if you're a faggot and you pour cream and sugar in, but black coffee is good. Don't be a faggot.

>rather die than give up my drug
fking lmao. pathetic junkies itt. this shit is no different than amphetamines. even your dick is smaller on it as stated many times itt

yeah, I'm on adderall too, so real amphetamines on top of my coffee. What's your point?

nothing. you do you user. op is just awaring people who wanna make it in life.

Why drink coffee?
>Lower risk of liver disease
>Lowered risk of cancers appearing
>Lower risk of stroke
>Lowered risk of cardiovascular disease
Downsides
>Increased chance of low birth weight
>Increased chance of preterm birth
>Increased chance of miscarriage
However, these were mostly nullified when accounting for smoking
bmj.com/content/359/bmj.j5024

>"many studies overestimated the positive effects of caffeine, because they didn’t exclude habitual caffeine consumers. This causes participants to be in withdrawal during the study and the so called positive effects of caffeine are then merely withdrawal reversal."

you are being kiked.

Downsides:

You forgot these you jew shill:

Adrenal fatigue
Irregular heartbeat
Accelerated bone loss.
Tremors
Insomnia
Depression
Blood pressure

>t. retard who fell for coffee funded studies.

DYOR

indigestion, forceful heart contractions, anxiety, depression, sleep deprivation, and hearing loss, dehydration.

nice, my Dr. Jekyll arrived today, Mr. Hyde had too much caffeine and I work out late at night.

Don't start with a full scoop immediately or you'll be praying that you dont die lol

Regular use of coffee/caffeine: reduced effects of depression and lower suicide rates

>depression from caffeine
holy shit

you would put eyeliner and lipstick on her?

>worked my way up to 800mg of caffeine a day
>think nothing of it, pump out work and gym after no problem
>go to doctors for unrelated surgery
>"do you have a history of high blood pressure?"
>haha no I just had a lot of caffeine
>"you need to cut it down to under 250mg a day at least"
>don't have caffeine for 24 hours before next appt.
>struggling to stay awake
>"do you have history of high blood pressure?"
>no, caffeine, but I'm getting off it now
>"oh, that's good, just let us know how it goes"
>cold turkey after that appt, dumped the rest of my preworkout and coffee
>took week off for surgery recovery, slept 16 hours a day getting through withdrawls
>currently 3 weeks off caffeine and finally starting to get back to normal energy levels

I was using that much to mask my depression. "Hard to be sad when you are this stimmed up"

>Shill
Go back to /ptg/
Provide evidence for these claims.

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>800mg
8 fucking cups of coffee?

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Yea caffeine is a meme. That being said it can be useful if you utilize it properly. However 99% of caffmeme consumers are just office drones who physically depend on it to stay awake. Get a load of that. They’re entire lives are dependent on some jewish-Colombian drink. Pathetic.

4 scoops of pwo