Why does /fast/ have ZERO progress pics after months of threads?

Post body, lel

anything over 24 hour fast sounds like a retarded idea to me.

Not eating at all is mentally easier than eating less or cleaner and lardasses think of it as a shortcut.

/fast/ is just /fat/ using another way to lose weight. Do you also browse /fat/ expecting progress pics?

This was the best choice according to the article in the thread. The main points for humans that had been proven were:
>Fasting lowers insulin levels by 60% after a couple days
Similar results when a protein restricted diet though
>Better immune system
Even better immune system when perfect caloric intake with no weight loss though
>some people report less side effects when fasting for a few days before chemo
But not always the case
>Increased weight loss when Intermittent fasting
Mention other forms of longer fasting have no extra benefits than IF
>While fasting cancer cells don't expand as they're not being fed (the idea behind fasting during chemo)
but it also mentions when eating again that carcinogens are more effective than before for a small while

Pseudo-results
>Glycogen stores don't effect aging in cells, compared to [3] other forms of food, when fasting.
After a seven month attempt to reproduce based on rat results the study was dropped as it didn't provide any proof.
>Neurological abilities increased
Because your body is worried and just wants food.

Then they pretty much say fasting should be good for you based on all the rat studies even though they only tried to show that one, but then highlight the effects of weight loss.

Pretty much they got all assblasted when I said it was bullshit and told me to read the article then didn't respond when I called out the results that I did.

What a fancy way to call fork putdowns

>tfw better than fastards

People not posting pictures in an anonymous Taiwanese bamboo crafting forum? Shocker. And a lot of people do post progress pictures here anyway. Also, check out snake diet group on Facebook there are probably hundreds there.

Been losing 2 pounds per week on IF, if it counts.
5'6 120 lbs

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it does have some
>a retarded twink becoming slightly more twinky (the same guy that said steroids actually make gaining muscle harder)
>a fatty before/after a 3 day fast, absolutely no visible difference, but he's deluded himself into thinking otherwise

mostly fatasses actually

i have strong suspicions that snake man is the one posting those threads, and shitposting you to death when you call him out on his bullshit

they're mostly not liars, they're delusional fatties

not true
/fast/ is about pushing a retarded meme, just like vegan threads, about how everyone should fast since it basically gives you superpowers
which is completely incorrect, as pointed out (and that post missed some juicy bits too), and they'll shitpost you to death if you say something as simple as "the study you cite evidence of the benefits of prolonged fasting is actually about IF". nobody actually reads the studies, they just parrot snakeman's scams.
the truth: prolonged fasting is good for fast weight loss, and that's it. nothing else. it will fuck over your muscle mass, and you will develop an eating disorder.

ok snake man

Snake Diet has good results for a /fast/ing lifestyle

New faster here, 5 days is my record. The shit works if you're a fatass.

Have fun yoyo dieting

I've been losing weight consistently since February. If I gain weight again it's my own fault and doesn't have anything to do with fasting

yes, that's the point.
a "yo yo diet" doesn't magically predispose you for weight gain, it just means you go on an extreme diet for a short period of time, don't fix your eating habits, then get fat again. instead of going on a moderate diet for the rest of your life.
>but why would i expect /fast/ards to even know something this basic

Yes it does

The reasons for yo-yo dieting are varied but often include embarking upon a hypocaloric diet that was initially too extreme. At first the dieter may experience elation at the thought of weight loss and pride in their rejection of food. Over time, however, the limits imposed by such extreme diets cause effects such as depression or fatigue that make the diet impossible to sustain. Ultimately, the dieter reverts to their old eating habits, now with the added emotional effects of failing to lose weight by restrictive diet. Such an emotional state leads many people to eating more than they would have before dieting, causing them to rapidly regain weight.[1] The process of regaining weight and especially body fat is further promoted by the high metabolic plasticity of skeletal muscle. The "Summermatter Cycle"[2] explains how skeletal muscle persistently reduces energy expenditure during dieting. In addition, food restriction increases physical activity which further supports body weight loss initially. When food becomes available again, the thrifty program promotes the refilling of energy stores which preferentially occurs as catch-up fat.[2]

They probably skipped biology to stuff their fat faces

This guy posted one.

You don't seem to understand that fasting dramatically changes your relationship with food. You reach a point where you aren't even able to eat as much as you used to, you're too used to having a less full stomach. No amount of copypasted paragraphs from wikipedia changes this.

Not a progress Pic, since he claims it's his first day.
Also, terrible lose skin

Keep telling yourself that fatso

>lardass who thinks he has it all figured out is mad that people with more willpower than him are able to lose weight by fasting while he's stuck lying to himself about how he can still stuff his face with carbs and sugar and lose weight as long as he counts his calories

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When you put it that way fasting soubds like a good idea on the cut because than on the bulk you'll need to stuff your face. At least for dyel fatasses with nothing to lose who want to start lifting.

Question:
What takes more willpower for an alcoholic?
Drinking only one beer and stopping after that or quitting completely?

>But..but you'll just gain it back!
This is down to the individual, if this guy can fast for over a year and gain little weight back over five years anyone can lose weight on a much less extreme fasting routine.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2495396/
"During the 382 days of the fast, the patient's weight decreased from 456 to 180 lb. Five years after undertaking the fast. Mr A.B.'s weight remains around 196 lb."

Thats because 99% of people arent retarded enough to post pics of themselves on Jow Forums. I dont currently fast but had great results eating half the days of febuary, still losing because yoyo is a meme. autophagy is real and healthy af. fasts longer than 4ish days are a meme is you arent 400 lbs.. but a 3 day fast does the body a lot of good.

No such thing as one beer for an alcoholic

Is there an alcoholic equivalent to ketosis? If not I fail to see how it compares

>fasting longer for longer than an IF routine has no greater effects
telegraph.co.uk/science/2016/03/12/fasting-for-three-days-can-regenerate-entire-immune-system-study/

Why do you guys care about what they talk about in their threads? People being wrong on the internet must be a huge deal.

There are two types of people on this board Memers and the meme'd
Fast was created by memers in order to meme the brainlets into taking up a preposterous diet

Who is snake man? I'm the guy who pointed some parts of the article out, those were just what I remembered off the top of my head since I woke up soon before that.
If it adds to credibility I'm a /sci/ math autistic too.

This. Any actually useful advice given on this board is purely the result of chance

Enjoying the benefits of fasting, but almost done my cut.
Is there anyway to fast while bulking?
Is the 5/2 diet any good while bulking?
Would go good with PHUL or PHAT

most of the people posting here are complete ignorant retards who have done zero reading into fasting as a weight loss method.

as a beginner, these are pretty good reads for anyone interested - idmprogram.com/tag/fasting/ or ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3946160/

If you wanna insult /fast/ in this echo-chamber of a thread, go ahead but don't discount the benefits of fasting just because you guys are too much of a brainlet to spend some time researching it.

t. previously morbidly obese guy who has gone from 282lb to 164lb since october 2017 with IF/ADF and have completed water fasts upto 43 days in length (my longest yet)

You are crazy enough to post in the actual /fast/

Feels good being apart of the memer master race.

Now time to get down to the shops, already finished my first gallon of the day

What's it like after day 3?

post body

>What losers. Why don't you read into fasting some before you discount it.

I did you faggot, here's my post.
Same exact article and everything.

ignorant retard

ignorant retard #2

hundreds of progress pics on Jow Forumsfasting, stop expecting people on /fast/ to spoonfeed you.

youtube.com/watch?v=E484qiQXxzM&t=579s also quite a few youtubers have tried.

no ur too weak to do it

please source your information instead of posting momscience.

24 hrs is barely a fast desu

wrong

wrong, also majority who go on long fasts supplement with electrolytes/vitamins so not only are you a ignorant retard, but you're also illiterate.

its more because every nigga who posts in /fast/ doesnt bother to do any background reading.

people won't speedfeed you.

speaking as a guy whos lost over 100lb, its pretty legit and has completely changed my lifestyle.

>Source your information
It says the article from the thread. I'm sorry if you can't read.

hi cole

I've never checked those threads out, but I did do intermittent fasting while cutting for the past 5 months. I went from 92 kg to 76 kg, losing seemingly only fat (as my strength remained the same and muscle mass looks similar, although that is harder to gauge). I also felt pretty good during it and was never hungry outside the 8 hour span during which I was supposed to eat every day.
It was pretty cool but I won't be doing it anymore probably since I recently hopped on test and now I feel incredibly hungry all the time.

worst part of a fast is the first 3-4 days as you adjust to ketosis, otherwise you feel relatively fine as long as you supplement correctly.

after the keto-flu period (3-4 days), you gain mental clarity from your brain running on ketones which is pretty nice.

Apart from that, you get the occasional hunger pang or craving on some days but it passes within 20 mins and you go back to feeling normal (dont feel hungry most of the time as ghrelin is suppressed); the mental clarity topped out at around day 20 and I felt slightly weaker every day from that point on.

Groovy, thanks for sharing your experience.

>t.the meme'd

stay mad FATTY

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You do realise that not everyone who isn't falling for meme diets is a fat fuck, right?

>brain running on ketones

Kys

>"Ultimately, the dieter reverts to their old eating habits"

So you just proved his point brainlet. Fasting isn't the issue it's the fact that the people who feel like they need to fast are such fat lads who want instant gratification they can't stick to it. So again it's not because of fasting it's just the type of people who would resort to fasting.

statistically the kind of fatty who has a crab in bucket mentality will shittalk fasting because they have no willpower to attempt it.

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ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2874681/

'The brain is dependent on glucose as a primary energy substrate, but is capable of utilizing ketones such as β-hydroxybutyrate (βHB) and acetoacetate (AcAc), as occurs with fasting, prolonged starvation or chronic feeding of a high fat/low carbohydrate diet (ketogenic diet). '

content.yudu.com/Library/A1voq7/TextbookofGuyton/resources/880.htm

'given sufficient adaptation, the brain can derive up to 75% of its fuel from ketone bodies, which the liver constructs using fatty acids. If we could only use glucose, we wouldn’t make it longer than a few days without food. If our brains couldn’t utilize fat-derived ketones, we’d drop dead as soon as our liver had exhausted its capacity to churn out glucose. We’d waste away, our lean tissue dissolving into amino acids for hepatic conversion into glucose to feed our rapacious brains.'

Brainlet fatty detected

>Progress pics

Fasting has been popularized by some high-profile scientific research by cutting-edge nutritionists. /fast/ doesn't post "progress pics" because they're not broscientists trying to "prove" this dumbass theory or that - /fast/ leaves that to the professionals.

I was a fat femanon and not being able to figure out how to not be. started lifting and IF on April, 2017. doing omad now. thanks Jow Forums for giving me my life back.

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gg.
post tits.

ņo

you're welcome will you marry me now?

We should just start referring to it as the 13 year old girl diet because that’s what it is.

>scan thread to see if anyone tried to prove OP wrong
>no /fast/ progress pics to be found
wow, it's almost like OP called out /fast/ on their bullshit

no thanks but deep down in my heart i will always have luv for pic related

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>not eating for 3 days
ISHYGDDT

Some retards obviously do, but people with a functioning brain don't

not that user but you don't have to go without foor for 3 days in order to get into ketosis.

There are people that work in my office who do “juice diets” and it makes me cringe. Just fucking eat healthy, appropriate portions of food while getting proper exercise lmao it’s not that fucking difficult.

You don’t have to go without food at all to go into ketosis

This donut probably won't hurt my diet, sure I can eat one
>continues to eat a dozen.
Muh diet isn't working

That was a code word for roids.

No they literally buy $100 boxes of bottles of juice and don’t eat solid food for a week at a time

Just like those cleansing diets to flush out the toxins, right?

true but going without food for an extended period of time does help to get there a lot faster.

>i've done fasts upto 43 days in length with zero negative effects

illiterate and ignorant, not responding to a babbling retard

look on Jow Forumsfasting or any other weight loss forum or youtube etc

also, you type like a samefag

true, you start going into ketosis as soon as 16 hrs have passed.

but in a long term fast or even short term fast, your body has to adjust to not having a external source of energy (keto flu) and can exhibit the stress as flu-like symptoms.

so to summarise, you're in ketosis after 16 hours of fasting but your body doesn't properly adjust itself to a fasted state for 3-4 days.

why are you even mentioning that? fasting is the exact opposite of going on a "juice diet".

You fasting faggots are mentally ill. Seek help.

instagram.com/snake_diet_wizard/

>mentally ill
please elaborate

fasting is a sign of schizophrenia.

Your eating is disordered. You have an eating disorder.

ok.

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>dont eat so body eats its own stored energy (fat)
>eat normally when refeeding with a balanced diet

explain how this is bad?

I find it pretty interesting, although I do not partake myself. The Snake guy is entertaining, and he experiments on himself with progress videos. It is fascinating what the human body can withstand. What little it can survive on when stripped of life's excesses.

Now, when really fat people come into the /fast/ thread and people tell them to stay water fasting for months, I feel like that's a bit irresponsible. I don't know of anybody who has water fasted for a month, let alone a series of months.

On the other hand, faggots like a lot of the people ITT who just spout retarded sayings like "JUST EAT CLEAN BRO" as if they have no understanding of the nuances of nutrition (they wouldn't use the phrase "clean" eating if they did) are mostly simple minded angry little dwarves who can't stand the idea of people doing something different than they are. Haha, you can simply press your palm against their forehead as they run in place at you like in those old cartoons.

>ignore /fast/ thread
>posts in thread about fasting

umm

how exactly is my eating 'disordered' by fasting?

The Venn Diagram of /fat/ and /fast/ is nearly a circle

Why would someone without a body poisoned by fat induced estrogen do something like fasting?

>haha i have no argument so i'll just fasters estrogen-infused soyboys

brainlet

Valid point. I was implying that it’s just fats looking for a magic pill to lose weight

I don’t see any high test muscular guys fasting lmao.

>body has no external energy
>uses its internal store of energy for fuel

WOW MAGIC

this thread is full of retards desu