Current physique at 21 yo...

Like I've said it's honestly just more for my own curiosity as I want to know what I could look like on steroids. It's not really to impress others as I wouldn't plan on staying on them.

Bro I am also 21 and cannot even do lmao1pl8 after at least a year, do not hop on gear

i think we can safely assume op is a manl-- ehem little person.

5'10" 185lb.. true. Wouldn't mind another 4 inches lol

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Waste of time. You can do some serious long term endocrine damage. No point in risking that unless you're completely beta.

Was he wrong?

Nobody plans to stay on gear. Nobody plans to turn into a heroin addict. Nobody says "I'll just smoke crack for the next 10 years."

Jow Forums officially has no idea what gyno is

You look good man, don’t get on gear. How long have you been lifting?

From 19-20 while in college I lifted a shit ton (6 days a week). Went from about 170 to 195 while staying decently lean. Tore my acl February of 2017. Pretty much stopped lifting until about 3 months ago. Gains are coming back pretty fast as I already had muscle memory.

I looked good natty too, my arms were even bigger than yours but i didnt have your abs.

I still did test and i still do. But unlike you, im not satisfied with a natty body. My goal body is only achievable with steroids. I want to look like a Jeff Seid Or vitaly.
anyways getting on test for 20 weeks (500mg) was interesting. Your whole body and face changes. The steroids give you that "holy shit" appeareance that you dont get being off cycle or just being a natty. I swear i was getting looks from people all the time and i looked really "masculine".

Anyways, doing one cycle wont fuck you up. You can recover just fine, you wont go bald or get gyno easily.

Interesting! Have you only done one cycle yourself?

Also what was your height/weight before cycle?

Look at his puffy nipple, you dunce.
Your thick core gave you puffy nipples, juice head?

no. I did one and did PCT. I realized, im only ever young once in my life. Im going to be an old person for much much longer than i am going to be a young person. I spend my older days looking like shit, why not spend my young years looking really good?
So i went back on, and i didnt come off for 2 years now. Currently i dont do test, but deca instead. Less side effects (or none in my case).

Im 5'11". Cycle weight doesnt mean much. I gained 14kg or 30 pound (ended up at 200lbs at the end of my cycle). But again it doesnt mean much, because you just never know how much of that was actual muscle.

Okay I had to check what gyno was lol, I thought it was where you gut gets big lol. Yeah I do have puffy nipples sometimes but am 100% natural dude. I do do kept and 1 meal a days to raise natural HGH levels and that contributes to my gyno I think. But I wouldn't say I have what synthetic users get for gyno.

user, if you live your youth thinking like that, you won't live as an old person very long at all.
Hell, you'll spend most of your later years desperately trying to live as and extend your youth.

don't dude. Gear up maybe after you reach age 25 when your test levels naturally start to deplete. also check your blood test levels if needed.

>user, if you live your youth thinking like that, you won't live as an old person very long at all.

I dont know what you mean with that.

>live as and extend your youth.
and i dont see a problem with that. I already hate becoming an adult. Im very childish and people get angry at me for not behaving more mature. But adult life is depressing and boring. Being a normie is boring. Being dyel like 99% of the population is boring.

Don't do it then, 2 months is gonna bring you jack shit. It takes 5 weeks for test to kick in that means you could get 3 weeks of gains than stop pinning and start PCT for what? You will lose most of the little gains you did make because you are shutdown for a while and need natural test to recover. You're just wasting cash.

If you're happy where you are there is absolutely no reason to 'just try out some steroids'. It's not fucking mdma

You can have gyno without roiding, you know?

I mean that people who live life so recklesly in their youth don't realize that what they do in fact shortens their lives and makes their twilight years hell.

Literal retard. It's called "having developed pecs".

Neck yourself.

Well I have one more questions. When you do steroids does it short cut to your genetic potential, whereas you could just maintain that physique with good diet and training after you get off??

you can do steroids in a responsible way. You dont have to go full retard with them.

If you roid up to your genetic potential you'll keep 90% of your gains bit after you peak and then take roids you won't be able to keep those gains unless you cruise
>t. Took steroids when skinny and kept all 40lbs I've gained

You can keep a good portion of your muscle mass after a cycle, but only if you keep lifting hard and dont cut too harsh.
Have it like this: If you lose the roid gains for whatever reason, you will need roids again to get them back. Dont lose them in the first place and ur good.

Do a 6-8 week sustanon cycle. Gains kick in by 3rd week and Can run it for short periods.

also, roiding for a longer time is kinda permanent roid look/gains.

and dont listen to this fucking retard

Steroids permanently affect your musculature. I can’t remember exactly how though, it has something to do with an increased density of something in your cells. Someone else can remind me what that was exactly

Increases satelite cells permanently.
Your body will remember the mass you built while on gear forever.
However, the raping your endocrine system will get and your complete inability to build enough test naturally to fully utilize or rebuild that mass kind of balances that out.

This is what I came to figure out. Obviously anything can happen, even with one cycle. But Could I get that muscle memory while having a low chance of not acquiring long term effects?

people go back to their natty levels after years of roiding dude, wrong info.

it has something to do with myostatin. Myostatins in your muscles never go away (its just the nature of them) and they are directly responsible for muscle growth and size.

if you ever saw myostatin rats you know what i mean

bro im telling you, you can recover from years of being on test. Just do a proper PCT and you are good. It can take many months but you will always recover.

I haven't done a cycle myself, but I'll say this: if you look like you look in that pic and you think you need gear to look better you may have dysmorphia or something. You have a better body than the vast majority of people on the planet, even including athletic people and a lot of people who ARE on gear.

I am happy with where I am. But with how much roids are becoming mainstream it seems like it'd be exciting to give them a shot and see strength/leanness/and size all come at unbelievable rates. I do fancy my health above all though and that's why I was getting all your opinions.

Yo dude, had a similar physique as I hopped on, maybe even worse.
Believe me, you won't do just one cycle. You will propably fucking love it, because there won't be a lot of sides on your first cycle.
You will stay on for years and most likely end up running heavy doses.
I fucking love being on, but I am afraid of what will come after that. I want to stay on for the next couple years, compete in PL then come off and have kids, thats the plan. Will see how this works. If you hop on, check the reddit wiki, do the first example cycle. But do not ever say you will only run one cycle, this won't happen.

He wants to look like he lifts with a shirt on.

That's what your gf said...

Great physique, user. Goals. Am curious as to what routine(s) you ran.

watch this video

youtube.com/watch?v=Krs83GDm800&t=588s

I used to think about doing it but ive realised that doing it is pretty much worthless unless youre a pro athlete or a competitive bodybuilder which itself is also worthless. Why would you want to inject chinese bath chemicals just for short term gains? I laugh at all the retards at my uni gym that are clearly on gear and think they are bigger than life itself. Its not worth it brah ill enjoy my natty gains and longevity for life.

The thing about starting at 21 is that you have no idea where your life is going to be in five years. Life throws wrenches at you and you don't want to find yourself in a position where you're suddenly less able to properly post cycle and are considering cruising for the rest of your life.

I'd say to give it a few years. Wait until your life has some more stability. Your career is on its way, etc.

So just for fun?

That's stupid. You're looking good. Don't risk your health for gains. That's what beta faggots do. You won't look better anyway, you'll just start looking over the top and eventually it would start affecting job interviews and picking up reasonably sane thots.

I definitely agree with you on this. It sucks as I've come obsessed with the thought of trying it as I love working out. But I know I should put it off till down the road. I definitely think I will try it someday though just to experience it lol

Sure buddy let's all hop on a 18 week cycle for that "roided up" look. Fuck off, this dudes still young the shorter the cycle the better

you've already cycled

If you do steroids you'll lose your love of working out naturally because it will never feel the same again.

Thanks brother. I do owe a lot to genetics but as I said above I lifted 19-20 really insanely while at the university. During that time I went mostly for strength and ate a lot. Also did a lot of HIIT while strength training. I always kept a pretty clean diet besides binge drinking occasionally, Which I have now stopped.
I started doing a lot of hypertrophy since I tore my acl and also incorporate long intermittent fasting as it helps increase natural T levels and HGH levels.

If you aren't happy with that physique and you are honestly thinking about getting on gear you should highly consider the possibility that you have a mental disorder or body dis-morphia. Do you really think girls will like you more if you put on another 5 pounds of muscle? What is it going to change in your life? You should already be slaying pussy and if you aren't it is because of social issues and lifting heavier things won't fix that. Don't fucking do it dude.

you have some really nice delts already. if youd hop on they will blow up. propably look funny

This is very true, after a cycle the workouts will never be the same desu

This was good and insightful. Thanks for link.

Right so you are full of shit. A gearing manlet.

Definitely have never used. I could post some body photos from the past two years if anyones interested? And Manlet at 185lb?? How big are you?

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