No way this is fucking true
Is natty lifting a scam?
No way this is fucking true
Alexander Rogers
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Gavin Clark
Yeah its true.
But I wouldn't say that being natty is a scam...just that 60-80 dollars for a vial of test E is a good deal.
Chase Murphy
Yes and no, there's nothing to support there's significant enough breakdown of muscle tissue, stretching, impact on the cns, involvement of slow/fast twitch muscle fibers, etc. to say just injecting testosterone will build more muscle and strength than a healthy male in his 20s/30s who lifts well, eats, well, and sleeps well on a good routine.
I will however say that you will build more muscle sitting at home with 1800ng/dL in your blood than someone with unnaturally low testosterone (250 or lower ng/dL) or women will through lifting.
Jeremiah Roberts
It's absolutely true but no one wants to believe it because they want to think hard work will always trump drugs and cheating. Also roid users are always pushing the idea that even on drugs they still have to work harder.
Dylan Williams
>pin
>fuck around in the gym
the ultimate redpill
Ayden Evans
Maybe? There was like one study that showed this, and they used like 20 or so people. That's hardly enough evidence to prove it. Still, taking gear and not putting in like what, 5-10 hours a week at the gym would be pretty retarded though. Roids aren't as bad as a lot of people think, but getting all the potential sides without squeezing out every last drop of gains you can out of them would be retarded.
Eli Clark
true. if I hadn't 10/10 thor hair and a fishy genetics for MPB I would be blasting for at least a couple of years. the moment I see a NW3 in my future I'm buying some bottles
Levi Baker
I hate that so much, when roiders come up with "roids allow you to work harder". Just stfu and do your thing man, making a drama out of steroids is the most pathetic thing ever and that's why bodybuilding is the biggest meme.
Luke Cox
This is the most intelligent post about roids you will ever see on Jow Forums
Levi Flores
I think I just realized natty means natural...
Evan Bell
oh my
Dominic Martinez
That's just it.
Roids litterally allow you to work harder in training and in function during your sport or activity of choice and reap greater benefits from rest.
That's why they take them.
I WORK HARDER THEN YOU THATS WHY IM BIGGER AND BETTER THEN YOU
Well, yeah.
That's because with the amount of gear you're mainlining you can workout 8 hours a day 7 days a week and need less then 5 hours of rest.
Hell you can eat a handful of sugar and a boiled egg and make gains and recoup.
People who didn't start working out or making decent gains till they got on gear have no fucking business telling others how to train or talk about how superior they are.
Not fucking ever.
Brandon Garcia
There's so many different PED's out there, but for the most part, they just alter your hormones to allocate more resources to building muscle than storing fat.
Isaiah Torres
We're talking about basic steroids here.
And they litterally do all of that.
Luis Jones
Natty lifting isn't a scam, it's more that enhanced lifting lying as natty lifting is the scam.
The types of people who go to Chipotle and eat semi-dirty then lie about being natural for Instagram followers.
Ryan Allen
Natty means 'N-Acetyl-Testosterone', or 'natty' in slang terms, ie. using steroids.
Isaiah Hill
Same brother
Connor Thompson
$35 per 10ml. Get a better source, bud.
Aaron Cruz
That's the going rate for Bubba's kitchen grade vials. Pharmaceutical grade is usually double that.
Brandon Parker
>gatekeeping
at what point should somebody be allowed to do steroids according to you?
Jayden Walker
Not him, but you really shouldn't start until you're firmly in intermediate phase. I think it's too dangerous to have the huge muscle gains, and both the undeveloped CNS, tendons, ligaments, and also having wonky form. It's just asking for an injury. I won't gatekeep someone, but that's usually my recommendation. I don't get some of the other forums and shit where they go all "REEEEEEE, you need to lift for at least 2 years before even thinking about looking into gear"
James Roberts
No its not true
lean mass includes water
endogenous testosterone makes you retain water
that's how you get that study
if you take roids you will probably be sorely disappointed
Jason Turner
Lean mass does include water, because you now need more blood supporting it, and more tissue also means more interstitium. LBM does not include extra retained water. The general rule of thumb is for every 5lbs of LBM, 1 pound of it isn't muscle.
Noah Wilson
This.
David Lee
>and they used like 20 or so people
43.
Mason Green
It's true bro just blast tren and dnp and you can look like this without having to do anything
Samuel Harris
Exercise and training have other physiological and psychological benefits. Exercise raises seratonin, training builds grit and discipline and provides a constant source of dopamine highs from the achievement of hitting new PRs.
I don’t want to be a lazy shit that just sits at home injecting shit into my body.
Tyler Ross
This is just a meme fabricated by the roid industry to convince you to shrink your balls for ultimate merchantry.
Carter Ortiz
That's still a incredibly small data set. And there still needs to be reproducible studies to help eliminate bias. This study isn't proof of anything, it's a starting point for more research.
Carter Thompson
I prefer keeping proper erections