/fraud/ steroid abuser general

dont do AI kids it will make your dick fall off
run oral only cycles if you are a competitive athlete, the Olympians do it.

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That's perfectly fine if your main goal is tendon health. The main reason for getting PCT and a AI in a case where you might not need it, especially when you're doing your first cycle, is honestly a 'just in case'. You -may- not need it, but if you do need it, you're not going to want to wait for it to come in the mail. Even if you're getting 100% legit gear that's exactly what you ordered, every individual's body and system is different, and you can never tell for sure how your body will react. Hormones play a big role in so many aspects of your physical and mental health, even slight changes can really throw some people off. I definitely feel the difference of even 2.5mgs of VAR (albeit as a female, that's still a very low dose)

Just to clarify - I do still recommend taking a normal-hormonal level of test with your VAR, though in your case the var alone is just fine if that's what you want to take. Any amount of outside steroids (ie. var) will cause your natural test production to stagnate, which is one of the main reasons people run test with any cycle. Your natural test baseline may not be in the upper-end of natural, so you will likely get some mood and size benefits from that as well. I know you want to focus on your tendons, but there's no reason you can't have your cake and eat it too (chest size+tendon health). Personally I'd extend your cycle from 4 to 8 weeks to really be worth your time/money on VAR; even just for the size benefit.

Also the people replying to your post obviously haven't read up the quote chain, so although I think it's good to read what advice they've given, I think it's also good to keep in mind they aren't fully grasping your situation or considering what we've already discussed.
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You're of course free to choose a different route however you feel comfortable and you don't have to be 'afraid' of doing other/more gear, but there's no reason you have to load on a bunch of junk either. Obviously there are herbal substitutes, pro-hormone shit and other such things you can consider for tendon health, but I have no strong knowledge there and personally don't care for those options.

There's a chance that even after a minimal dose of just anavar, you'll feel very 'off' post cycle. That's why PCT is important. Like I said, hormones play a big role in tons of bodily functions. Your natural test production, even with that slight intervention, may bounce back or it may take months to get back to where it was. Here's a pretty general PCT for a VAR cycle (based off 8 weeks; as I'd recommend switching your cycle to) :

(Using Clomid OR Novadex)

Clomid:
>75mg/50mg/50mg/50mg
(each '/' is a new week, so it's 75mg for week one of PCT, 50mg for week two, so on and so forth)

Novadex:
>40mg/20mg/10mg/10mg


Anyway, I have to go back to working so if there were any more important replies to me in the last thread (or this one) I'll get to them later or whatever

>she responds to every post
>always word vomit replies with her wikipedia knowledge
>will discuss subjects she has no knowledge of with full confidence

how do i get my whore to stop posting in fraud?

If you have better advice, then feel free to give it. I have fully admitted I have never done a test+var combo for tendon health as I am 1) female, so it would be retarded 2) don't have tendon issues, so none of my posting is from personal experience. I feel I've been very upfront about that, and the importance of that poster doing his own research.

But I've still done a lot of reading into the subject and seen countless accounts of anecdotal evidence, particularly because my father also suffered a tendon injury in his shoulder and used steroids to help it. So yes, I do feel confident re-sharing this information. No one else has replied to him with factual information to help him make an informed decision in what he wants to do, though I fully welcome them doing so, even if it contradicts me.

There's so much information out there, it's just laziness for us to expect a beginner to dive in and learn everything on his own when he has very specific goals in mind. I can't see why someone wouldn't want related information being passed on to them. You only question it because my name is 'ESTP'; if I was 'Anonymous' you wouldn't second guess it - yet any Anonymous poster could easily have 0 knowledge or experience with even exercising, yet alone steroids.

Call it whatever you want, but you're willfully misleading a newbie just for the sake of bantering with me - which is silly. There's so many things you can harass me about without fucking over newbros, so get on those instead, I'll be happy to flirt with you once I'm done working.

>advicing anybody to use fucking clomid

Stop this meme, it's fucking inferior and only gets in the way of tamoxifen.

Do you brehs take clen or t3 when you cut? I've been blasting test and running 120mg clen (2 on 2 off) with 50mg t3 this cut and the results are crazy. Going to add some tren to the mix soon.

welcome to the world we live in bro. The more rights women have the more you have to deal with their shit in everyday life

Ignore it, the advice you give out is solid.
We all have to base our advice on information and you seem informed enough.

Its better then bro science.
>inb4whiteknighting

Clen and t3 is very very potent.
Its not catabolic at that dose providing you're running at least a solid test base.

ahh its refreshing to find a fellow man of class

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in other words i ate some beef jerky that i didnt realize has 9g of sugar per 1 oz serving of meat...
holy fuck i am craving carbs like a mad man right now

Oh hey a trip from the days of old, neat. Whu are you back on this shithole anyway?
>There's so many things you can harass me about without fucking over newbros, so get on those instead
/fraud/ has pretty much just been fucking over newbies since I started posting here, didn't know that wasn't the norm.
You doing a low carb diet or summin?

Sure is brah, I was shaking like a nun in a satanic gathering the first 2 weeks! Made sure I cut down on just test beforehand to get the best results. BP has been fine too, although if someone was predisposed to high blood pressure they should probably avoid clen.

just doing a pretty aggressive cut.
2k cals. 200g protein
getting all my carbs from fruit only timed around cardio or lifting
Its actually been pretty easy considering it puts me at around a 4k defecit. The blood sugar spike or whatever from the sugar must have caused some shit with the hunger though, i dont know the science on it but i definitely feel insane carb craving after eating the sugar

I'm thinking about running dbol (in mild doses, like 25mg) on an "on/off weeks" type of plan. What's a good schedule to start with? 4 on, 4 off?

getting new headphones soon, old ones were busted and was louder on one ear than the other

how does var effect the skin? some say that it ages it and some people say that it does the opposite

I wouldn't take dbol like that m80, just use it as a kicker and pin test. If you take dbol 4 on 4 off you'll end up messing up your kidneys and possibly your liver.

you gotta feel it out as you go. First time i ran 50 mg dbol ed for 6 weeks with no sides and liver values not abnormally high (for someone lifting weights)
second time i started to get acne and crazy bloat, and depressive thoughts from what was likely high e2 so i dropped it after 2 weeks.
Try to split the dose at least between morning and pre workout i got the worst sides taking it all pwo

>just use it as a kicker and pin test
biggest meme ever

Good luck, I always just buy a decent pair from walmart that last me forever until someone retarded comes and fucks them up.
Well good luck not-science man, I believe in you.
Man I hated dbol the one time I tried it. I'm sure your mileage may vary but I was not a fan at all. Acid reflux and bloaty. Now I'm just bloaty, which is a major improvement.

Last time I ran it at 50mg I had to stop, severe pains in my kidneys and the extreme depression you speak of. It poisoned me. After stopping it I felt fine.

How is what he said a meme? Most people use it alongside test.

>Most people use it alongside test.
why?

I wouldn't think about it too hard, it's the blind leading the blind here. I've heard it's a good preworkout but I dunno what it's like as a cycle kickstart.

Yeah, I'm running 100 mcg t3 / day with tren. Tren slows down your T3 production, so it's good to run 50 mcg with it. I'm also running var, mast, test and halo starting tomorrow (contest in 2.5 weeks) so it's hard to tell what's doing what, but overall I like it.

Tren shoulder pumps are fucking extreme. The only pain that feels good.

Good stuff isn't it? I bet you're sweating like a madman on that combination kek. Can't wait to start the tren.

I'm on TRT with test-u, but I travel on short notice for up to two weeks for work, and I don't want to travel with pins and vials. Test-u is shit for blasting.

I'll keep looking into it. I do care about my kidneys and liver, so I'll be cautious.

I like dbol. The only side I get is bloating. And the power combo of horniness and sexual endurance.

If I bump up the dose to 50mg all at once, I get the bad back pumps and more bloat, so I don't do that.

lmao nano you also now whiteknitghing

fucking pussies, she spreading her cancerous pussy acid and it;s infecting your brains

Oh man, you have no idea. I'm pretty much in keto (not really, but super low carb) and anytime I actually get some carbs, it's just like firing up a furnace. Waking up drenched every night - but hell, it's only 19 days until this madness is over.

Not coming in as lean as I'd like for my first physique show, but I'm doing novice and I think it'll be a good experience regardless. Probably won't even make first callout desu, but ya gotta start somewhere.

>The more rights women have the more you have to deal with their shit in everyday life
No broo it doesn't matter we as man do also terrible things. We should be sorry for it and blame ourselves!!! Why not just cut of our dicks and fucking stick in our asses

LMAO. Still think that woman and male are equal fucking cuckknights

Kek, that's what I'm doing, only had 50g of carbs a day the last 2 weeks, lots of protein though. T3 is ramping up my bodyheat nicely, god knows what the tren will do lel. Good luck with your contest breh.

men are stupid and only think in terms of violence and sex. Women are wayyyyyy smarter just imagine a world run by women, there would be no war and everyone would have food there would be no disease either because men are GREEDY and DIRTY.

>implying I care about whats between her legs

Our source forgot my mt2, they really are being messy.

What a great idea. We should treat them all like the princesses that they are. I mean they have it way harder than us!! It's like they playing life on nightmare mode vs easy mode we play it. It's not fair

So that why you like trannies?

Serious? That never happend to me before. Was it the only thing they missed?

Yes I obviously crave tranny cock.

Just the mt2, the rest of the order (5 different items) were all fine and correct.

In4 I agree with ESTP, laser hair removal is painful as fuck.

Getting my neck tattoo'ed was easy mode compared to the hair removal sessions

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someone that knows what they're talking about feel free to let me know your opinion on this..,

so I'm week 5 into a 20 week blast. I'm currently fatter than I'd like to be (~15-16%) and I really don't want to get fatter. I'm blasting a gram of test and I ran epistane for the first four weeks. I've been eating maintenance calories, hoping that a gram of test will allow me to recomp. All my lifts are going up quite drastically. Since I'm just not prepared to get any fatter, my current plan is to keep doing what I'm doing until week 10. Then 10-15 I will go in surplus. Then 15-20 I will do a short blast of tren and eat at a massive enough deficit to get down to where I'm comfortable (~11%)

make sense?

What did you get removed?
I want to keep it as an option if I ever look like an ape.

Legs. Still have some but did enough sessions where shaving now and again is quick and easy.

Will probably do back in the future because I'm starting to have a bit, and fuck me if I ever allow myself to have back hair.

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im a guy who added 30mg of dbol to his usual stack of 500test 750 deca. had been stuck on 3-4 reps incline with 140kg until i added dbol

this is my story:

was on the incline with 120kg felt kinda heavy so i figured id rep out and not go any higher

was gunning for like 12 reps

but i just kept going and going it was unreal. cranked out 25 reps with 120kg incline or 264lbs. ppl were staring at me like holy fucking shit son

my buddy was in disbelief. said i should now do 140kg or 308lbs. banged out 10 reps.

crazy. then went up to 150kg or 330lbs and did that for 5

fucking insane. 500test e 750 deca 30mg dbol
im sitting at 100 - 101 kg bw 220 - 222 lbs

400mg test e for first cycle y/n?

I'll prob need to get shoulders etc done.
Not looking forward but then again I'm fond of being in pain.

Why does /fraud/ hate t3? Seems like a good thing to run alongside tren or even DNP

protip: don't take fraud at all seriously when it comes to compound knowledge. Or anything else for that matter...

>be peanut brained
>read up on t3
>it can be catabolic if handled wrong
>t3 is now the devil

T3 and Tren is an amazing combo and everyone that disagrees should be gassed.
Can't vouch for dnp.

/plg/ here, I've stolen your apu

Exactly I read this one study where women are better multitaskers if woman just got the chance to be CEO s they would be fuckin killing it. Somehow the men manage to take every CEO position though! >:(((

I just got banned from a popular steroid forum for "asking retarded questions and doing a retarded cycle"

i'm just doing a 500mg a week test only cycle, 15 weeks, I have Anastrozole for AI and Tamoxifen for PCT.

I asked what the best way to use HCG was...

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I appreciate the kindness, though you don't have to worry about me -- part of the fun of /fraud/ is the shit flinging

m'lady

Eh, when I started on /fraud/ it was the norm to help people and post actual information, if not even discuss studies. There were some really educated and intelligent trips here. I mean, there was still an abundance of daily (if not hourly) dairies, trolling and bants, but everyone was a lot kinder/helpful to each other. Even if that's not the standard anymore, it's something I liked about /fraud/ and plan to keep going desu

>why are you back
N O E S C A P E F R O M T H I S H E L L

Jesus fuck I hate when that happens. Every single pair. Doesn't matter if they're $80 a pop or $10 a pop, one earbud goes in a month or so

I honestly have no information based on factual evidence for that, but from purely broscience/personal experience and speculation, I'd assume it'd 'age' the skin before making it more youthful; in the same way any amount of test might - making your skin more oily/rough/acne prone. I can only imagine it giving beneficial skin effects if you had some shitty hormonal imbalance before it was now 'evening' out, or if your skin issues were caused by very dry skin?

then again, since it helps with collagen synthesis (as we were discussing with the tendon), maybe that has some effect on skin. I honestly don't know a lot of shit about skin, I was prescribed accutane as a kid so mines always been pretty ok and as a result I've not paid the science behind it a lot of mind

>tfw you'll never be accepted in the locker room by masT because you're white and female, not adhering to his standard preference of colored dicks

>I'll never touch that jawline

R I P

chocolate fat bombs helped me so much with sugar cravings in keto if you're going low carb enough. also nice energy boost

How can i differentiate the nipple gland from actual gyno? I feel a little lump in there but i cant tell what is what , nips got a little puffy too. Dont know if its fat & water or breast tissue fuuuuack

Yeah, tattoos are nothing compared to laser hair removal. A tattoo is just sweet relief compared to laser hair removal. Fuck laser hair removal, how have we not come up with something more efficient than that for one of the largest 1st world modern day grooming concerns

Will one cycle hurt me at 19?

You're going to be a mommy!

Potentially yeah

19 is so young

you'll be older in the blink of an eye

rework and keep on perfecting your diet and routine instead

no you didn't

Are there any risks of running T3?

There are risks with running anything, but yes, especially T3

T3 is a thyroid hormone and your thyroid controls fucking everything - even down to your stomach. If you fuck up or with your T3, you run the risk of creating yourself a thyroid disorder, among other things. I highly recommend looking into this further before using T3. I have an incredibly high family history of thyroid disorders (mother and her 7 siblings and her mother all have thyroid disorders) and decided against using T3 in my cycle(s) because of it

How much T3 do you run with something like 500mg of Tren?

Thank you, queen :)

Guys i want to start losing weight but i still cant pull 4pl8

Help

plg pls go...

I just want 1 405 diddly

Pls help

Halotestin

>get a job instead of NEETing
>constant boners and urge to cum while on cycle

How do you guys go all day without raping a hot girl?

So how easy is it to get laid when you post a roided shirtless selfie on tinder?
ps: I am not a virgin nor autistic

Don’t post a selfie in the bathroom you post a picture of you shirtless for a reason like at the beach with friends.

Right... that doesn't answer the question though

Fairly easy if you look good, but you also cant be too choosy. Youll get a lot of 5/10s thrown your way, not even fat just uggo faces

>friends

Chad... pls go

I rape myself instead. This might not work with trenbolone you need a tranny for that

OKCupid studies show that shirtless pics help a lot if you have a good body.

100% especially if you just want to get laid

is good if you want them to care about your personality/get a gf

a quick fuck with a shirtless pic is fine. girls on tinder can be incredibly shameless (shocker) and if it's obvious you're looking for a fuck/showing off the goods, most will be fairly upfront about being willing to just fuck

opposed to some weird dating shit where you have to make pointless small talk for a long time

my bf (open) has a shirtless picture of himself and I on tinder (he's upfront about being in a relationship on his profile). girls will message him all the time with the equivalent of 'jump my bones'; they just want a sexy one night stand

You're woman...?

>my bf (open)

wew

What kind of hobbies/passions do you guys have besides lifting?

I ride/race dirtbikes.

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i like eroge

did you mean to make a new thread?

welcome to /fraud/ I'll be your guide to sexist remarks and extreme disdain posting

eh, normally I'm not much for 'open' relationships but considering my situation while I met him and that we started as just fuck buddies, it made a lot of sense. I have a lot of trust for him and don't really care about him banging other girls; at the end of the day he's coming home to me and I consider sex and romance to not necessarily be the same thing. I like that we're in a relationship but I was also perfectly happy with just being fuck buddies, so it works pretty good

on the flipside, I couldn't handle notbf fucking other girls and was super possessive, so I guess it depends on the person/kind of relationship you have

I wouldn't go that far

No, specifically fraud. I feel like you all are a bit more involved in the world.

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I've been lurking fraud on and off for year and to be honest... I don't pay much attention to your replies. I mainly like mastest

well, that'd make sense as I haven't been here for roughly a yearish

Care to... p-post a pic? And/or current stack

I like to draw and do theatre. In fact I'm shitposting at theatre practice right now.

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I'm ugly as sin lad

my regular cycle is just var 5-10mg nothing special; though I'm off cycle right now

>I'm ugly as sin
You can't be that bad if you have a bf.. but ok np

No she's ugly as fuck with a square ass jaw looking like a tranny and shit sorry new friend don't even ruin the image for yourself

Fug I shaved my chest and I can already tell I will look 10x better than with my long ass hair
It looks really fucjed right now because it's so damn white compared to the rest of my body though...
I just used one of those groomer trimmers without the guard, do you guys just leave the last little bit or what?

Finally finished all my heart tests today and everything looks great. I can finally go back to running degenerate cycles instead of dicking around with EQ and test.

Gonna start with a short cut and transition into a lean bulk.

1g trenE (will drop to 800 in a month)
1g EQ
500mg Test
Plust first 3weeks gonna run 100mcg t3 alongside 600mg DNP and 50mg Mast ED... Maybe a bit of sdrol right after I drop all the weightloss shit

R8 no h8.

we have a psychic

tell us how you really feel

I just looked on the archive. She's not so bad. Definitely doesn't look like a man.

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Post em

Checked the 'chives and if "she" doesn't have a penis then that's a shame. Looks like a trap that doesn't really pass but just enough feminine traits to fuck and then be able to convince yourself you aren't gay
(No homo)

I really do just have manly ass features unfortunately

Let's not and say we did

just passable traps that aren't actually traps are my fetish

sup bb

I asked in the previous thread, but didn't get much response. I'm about to start a 15 week 500mg test c cycle, and either by accident or as a bonus I got a blister pack of winstrol 10mg. Should I incorporate it into my cycle at all, leave it for another time, or disregard it completely. I'd always seen the oral only is stupid, but never thought of using an oral as a supplementary.

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orals as a supplementary is the CORRECT way of using them you brainlet. Run some winny for 4-6 weeks at the start of your cycle if you want to