This universe was created without any specific purpose

speak for yourself, weak minded bitch

God is everywhere at every time watching every thing everyone does

I'm supposedly already damned, or am I?

It would be nice if my brain wasn't so tight and weighed down

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Everything you've said matches up with our current information, but our knowledge is incomplete, and you can still change your outlook. Why not adopt Nietzsche's view, and aim to become the best you can be, the Ubermensch? Who knows? We as a species may one day be able to escape our so-called ultimate fate at the heat death of the universe. Our exploits may be remembered for aeons down the line, but this will not have a chance of happening unless we try.

I'm not sure if I could ever achieve genuine happiness, I want to believe I can but I don't know anything of life

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is there any greater form of psuedo-intellectualism than the nihilism meme

Always do the opposite of what the jew says

Life has no inherent, intrinsic meaning, so the only way to derive any happiness and meaning from life is to, somewhat absurdly, assign meaning to arbitrary things that you are instinctually attracted to. In the book Flow, the author proposes the concept of meaningful work as a path to happiness. But this can be anything you invest time into: your hobbies, your relationships, your children, anything else. Although you should not go overboard, as the Buddha has wisely noted: desire is the root of suffering. There must be a balance between the two.

pretty sure I already "desired" myself out of "the game"

everyone is God, life is strange

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"God" is the name people give to shit they can't explain. What even is God exactly? I'm curious to see your response

mind readers of the physical plane that are capable of tapping into the spiritual realm

That's what's so great about life. You get to set your own goals, make your own rules. If contemplating this is your biggest problem then you're probably in a developed country. Find out what you want to do with your life and then make it happen. If you look for a universal "meaning," you may find it in religion. That works for some people. Or, you can give yourself a meaning.

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So nothing interests you? Everything is boring? This is a dilemma that many face in the current age. It comes and goes. Some tips to find meaning in things include mindfulness, being aware of the present moment, and living as an Epicurean, finding joy in daily activities and in the basic necessities of life, such as food, health, and companionship. Everyone has the ability to arbitrarily assign meaning to various things in their life, and you can find the will to do this as well. Life is what you make of it.

youtu.be/0ca4miMMaCE Hello from the 6/10th

if you can only happily accept life if you have a life job/goal then fuck off

Why? Care to elaborate?

Jobs suck your time and energy for you. Being a wageslave is hell and if it's something you're doing to be happy then you're dumb. Life is an adventure, not enjoying an adventure but enjoying work is stupid

if you can only be satisfied by fulfilling a role or some preconceived notion about life or reality then you lack the creativity to exist happily in the modern west but congrats youre in the same boat as around 99% of the modern west! you can commiserate on social media together and make spongebob memes about how much you hate yourself!! dont forget that if a road team steals a game in the nba finals then america can steal a taco please eat taco bell

I don't advocate being a wageslave, but I do believe in having personal goals. We're in agreement, I think I just misunderstood your comment.

Setting personal goals for yourself based on your own interests and values has nothing to do with rampant consumerism or being a wagecuck. In fact it's the exact opposite of that.

I meant 'life goals' as in existential goals and the reason that they are pointless is because there isn't a goal to life. Improving yourself is great and has nothing to do with what I said

I'm and I didn't post thisso you didn't misunderstand the comment I was just throwing in my two cents

pretty sureis from the guy you asked to elaborate

And how exactly is an end goal bad? The way I see it a goal is something that gives you motivation to complete it, it gives people purpose. I personally don't have a goal, I just want to enjoy this short respite from eternal nothingness

A personal end goal is fine a universal life goal that humanity should strive to achieve/feel sad if they don't is dumb as fuck and and my point was to show that OP is an idiot for feeling sad about what he posted

Religion is for people who understand everything didnt just appear one day just because. Where did this universe come from?Where did the laws of physics come from? Were they just universal constants? Did they exist because they had to? All these questions point to higher powers even if you dont believe in a specific one.

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The Chad theist

Oh okay I'll agree with you there, collective goals for humanity to strive for are dumb. Even worse is the people who live their life to contribute to humanity's progress. Live for yourself or not at all

I think op was simply lamenting his own lack of a path or purpose in life. I agree that life has no intrinsic meaning, see my earlier comments ITT.

Maybe.

t. Agnostic

Did you watch too much Rick and Morty, OP?

They exist because they exist. That's it. There is no God. Nothing had to exist the way it does, it just does. Think of it like a battle royal, there's only a 1/x (how many players there are) chance of everyone in it winning, but someone has to. The odds may be small that thing exist in such a way that life can develop, but something had to happen. If they existed some other way maybe some other sort of life would have developed. The universe doesn't exist this way so we can exist, we adapted to what the universe is and live because of it

>something had to happen
Please support this statement.

>he doesn't understand dimensions
it doesn't mean there's 10 universes... just 10 different "versions" of the universe

How exactly? If nothing happened that is still technically something, it's just that this something happened to be nothing. If you do nothing, you're still doing some something, it's just nothing. The concept of nothing is something that exists, so even if nothing happened and no life developed, that's still something

Not that guy, but a random sequence of events occurring to produce life is just as likely if not more likely than the existence of a magical skyfather. The difference: the former is plausible while the latter isn't, that is it you are being intellectually honest and unbiased towards your upbringing.

Why can there not be a God? Not even talking about the popular one per se, but why is the idea of a being (whether they are "sentient" or not) existing on a higher plane of existence so seemingly ridiculous to you? Genuine question.

Only as far as you can tell and human perspective is very limited. We are fundamentally incapable of real objectivity becuase by our very nature we are automatically exposed to the ultimate bias, the human bias. We can only ever precive reality through a narrow lens defined by our very biology and even within that are exposed to further bias due to the isolated nature of the self making all that is precived and sensed subjective to the individual. Objectivity is a lie. Believe in whatever you want or need to to find meaning.

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Rick's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realise that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Rick & Morty truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Rick's existential catchphrase "Wubba Lubba Dub Dub," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Dan Harmon's genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them.

Wubba dubba dub dub

There can be, most atheists believe there is no god, but are open to evidence. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

>wew
>you apparently do not yet understand dimensions
was right
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Anal sex

I'm not saying there can't be a God, I'm just there most likely isn't and putting your faith in a God just because there might be one is fucking stupid

Why are there so many references to Russian history and literature in this meme copypasta reddit?

Quantum field experiment results.
>better check them out
>find out who is observing all of this shit
>tfw you find out its still watching.

What?

Except I said it originally

What do you mean by putting your faith in a God? If you mean believing in one, I don't see why it would be stupid per se. I don't think the existence of a God is less likely than the absence of one, it's just that there is no evidence to assume he's real. The only stupid thing I can think of is "knowing" that your God is the real one.

Post a link. Anything could have caused that, but you jump straight to >muh god
to fit your confirmation bias and assuage your cognitive dissonance. Do you have abandonment issues? I guess most of us here do, but we don't need the concept of god as a hugbox.

All I'm saying is that believing in something that has no proof to support its existence purely because one might exist and that idea makes you feel better is stupid

The questions is not actually "is there or is there not as god" but rather "what is the nature/origin of existence".Either springing forth from nothingness or having been acted on by some outside force beyond our conceptions of reality are both equally valid and equally unprovable hypothesis. Springing forth from nothingness is not the default becuase as you yourself said nothing is still something. Assuming spontaneously existence is the default is the result of your own biases born from existing in a causative universe. The problem is the nature of the question is one of an event that predates causality and has such even nothingness can't be reliably asserted. Functionally it's no different than atheism but when it comes down to it you simply can't reliably make any truth claims about what preceded existence.

I was the one who said that and I'm not this guyBy changing the question from "is God real", which I'm saying is stupid, to "did the universe just happen, or was it created" you've changed the topic completely, but I'm open to discuss this, I've said about everything I want to about whether God exists or not.

So our choices are:
>The universe just spontaneously started existing
and
>Something outside of the universe created it
right?

Well how about we add one more?
>The universe always existed

Agreed, the false equivalence argument doesn't work here as both options are equally valid.

Why is it expanding at an accelerating rate then?

How could it not be expanding at an accelerated rate if it always existed? I don't buy into the idea that it always existed I'm just throwing it out there as a possibility

>The questions is not actually "is there or is there not as god" but rather "what is the nature/origin of existence"

Not if we're talking about whether it's sensible to follow a specific religion it isn't. Religious apologists often use this underhanded tactic too, of just stating that we can't figure out where everything came from, therefore it's not more wrong to believe in an iron age war god as the creator than it is to believe in anything else. Doesn't follow. Sure creation is mysterious, but then the correct response is "so we can't know," not "implausible things are now plausible, fuck logic and evidence."

This, the question was "is there or is there not a god", you changed it

Life is meaningless but the only thing that gives it real meaning is friendship and family, without that life wouldn't be worth living.

Bullshit. Some people don't have family, some people don't have friends. Are you saying those peoples lives are completely meaningless? You give meaning to your own life, nobody else

Nah it's pretty meaningless.

Anyways the universe is like the concept of Newton's law of motion. Everything must contradict itself it seems.

Some of the saddest cunts I have met in life have been those without friends or family

For instance, look how unhappy how many people here are without friends alone. Secondly, everyone I have met who grew up without a family is a drug addict, uses the fact they have no family to play victim and seek attention from others. Clearly they got problems .

It only gets more fun after you realize that there is not only no purpose but that there is not even a universe. When i stare up at the darkness in my room i know that there is no roof above my head.

Friends and family make you happier, yes, but they aren't the only thing that gives life meaning. It's the happiness you feel when around them that gives life meaning, it all comes from you. If you were an unfeeling sociopath and somehow had friends they wouldn't make you happy and therefore wouldn't give your life meaning

Elaborate?

Except I asked you to do that originally

My God this bot pisses me off sometimes

Nigga where did god come from?

>god
gay and barbaric

let's be honest nothing on earth is worth staying alive for more than never knowing what it's like to exist. I wouldn't mind missing all of this boring shit. Life is literally the most uselessly boring thing I can imagine. The only thing that makes it worthwhile is dopamine . That's all we want, a dopamine rush to experience a sense of meaning. Just walk through a city and feel how chaotic and apathic this universe really is. People can suffer so much, but there's no consolation from the environment. It's just useless suffering. I really don't get how people can go day in day out lying to themselves that there's any meaning at all to this shit.

Well based on observation most people are operating under the assumption that there was an initial singularity. It's possible that the singularity existed prior to the expansion phase that is our universe and always had as much as you can say "always" in realtionship to something to which time doesn't apply to but as to what changed and initiated expansion just brings us back to the same questions and the same difficulties with the fact that the laws of physics as we know them did not exist at that point. As for shifting goal posts OP made statements about the nature of existence. No one made any mention of organized religion or implied any specific god other than the posters asserting nonexistence. This makes the mistake of equating the question "is there a god" in it's most general sense with "is the Christian any other specific deity god real". At it's core when removed from any sort of dogma, which we can reasonably dismiss based on a available evidence conflicting with claims made, the question of god really is just one of the origin of the universe.

Disregard that. I suck cocks. I overlooked the first post about schopenhauer which started the reply chain. Referencing schopenhauer means they were in fact talking about the Christian god or something similar as that was the idea of god to which schopenhauer was responding.

Why does it always have to be about faith vs reason? Don't they both exist to compliment each other?

denial of god is gay and retarded

>Where did this universe come from?
We live on a tiny rock in a giant universe that we estimate is billions of years old. Most of us can't even remember what we had for lunch yesterday, so it is highly unlikely we will find that answer anytime soon.

>Where did the laws of physics come from?
Where did God come from?

>Were they just universal constants?
Latest in physics is that there are no such thing. You can determine localised constants like gravity on a planet, but nothing is universal.

>Did they exist because they had to?
Does God exist because he has to?

>All these questions point to higher powers even if you dont believe in a specific one.
They point to nothing and your God answer is just a really lazy way to deal with it.