Just think about it, your father, his father before him, his father before him, every single man from every generation since the beginning of time has fucked at very least a single woman.
Evolutionarily speaking, you are the biggest failure in your lineage if you are still a virgin.
No pressure, but you better start lifting hard for those girls.
That's not milk in your coffee is it? Dairy is shit for you, sweetie.
> tfw last male on dad's side of the family
> he had 3 sisters and 1 brother, brother had a daughter
> tfw inherited slew of genetic bullshit from his side of the family
> only benefit being 6' and being able to put on size fast af (mostly fat)
> "You're the last of our lineage user, no pressure."
Also does getting head count as losing your virginity?
You put so much emphasis on sex you will never enjoy life that way
Just say hi to a girl sometimes they make it so obvious they bend over and ask for it
>since sexual reproduction evolved
based Darwin
I have given up on women.
I have not put any effort into relationships with women beside an occasional polite "hey" to a coworker in about 5 years.
Women do not like me, hence I do not bother women.
I will probably die in deployment in the coming 5-10 years so getting a girl serves no purpose
If it happens it happens, if i wanted to fuck for the shake of it i would pay for it. I want a nice qt girlfriend but i'm not gonna struggle for it.
>No pressure, but you better start lifting hard for those girls.
If you need to lift or follow ANY advice on the internet to get girls, I'm sorry, you're fucked.
If you aren't capable of getting a girl to even kiss you while being a complete dyel and just thinking on the spot, you're probably a beta and ugly.
found the man among fit-boyos
Oh no I'm 23 and a virgin I'm a failure at life I will never amount to anything
>lives another 60 years
Calm down if you're a virgin for a while longer get a prostitute and get it over with
I'm sterile so I don't see how being an non-virgin would make me any less of a failure.
21 year old virgin
recently at University i've came to the conclusion that no matter how much I lift, I will never be able to lift away my awkwardness and shitty social self
i'm fucked
Hint, like lifting, being social comes with practice
>being social comes with practice
Well I've got 23 years of practice not being social and experience trumps everything
>being social comes with practice
Things become a lot easier once you realize this
Bullshit, all my experiences are negative so they always add to the awkwardness
Care to elaborate?
Another reason, as if I needed it, to An Hero.
I put and have put absolutely zero effort into a relationship with a woman. I havnt spoken to a girl with the intent of starting a relationship with her in 9 years. And lucky for me I have 2 brothers who are doing well in that department. Absolutely zero pressure.
>crush moves away
>like right when i start talking to her
>never bother with most people in real life anyways
>stick to myself
>if i see a hot girl i will go for it
>haven't seen that much hot women yet
>rather just bide my time
is this autism?
if i left my room i'd most likely get laid ez
What about if youre a virgin girl.
The only reason I haven't offed myself. Don't want to be "that ancestor" who failed to reproduce if I do go to heaven, imagine spending an eternity being laughed at by your entire family and genetic lineage.
Let's fucking make it lads
>that one madlad ancestor we all most likely have
That's not autism, thats delusion.
>does getting head count as losing your virginity?
nah bro, full sexual intercourse only, benis in vagine
>if i left my room i'd most likely get laid ez
yet you don't get laid, funny that
For real, it's like people saying put your hand in this fire! If you keep doing it then it won't burn eventually but it just keeps burning you.
Many of your social experiences may be negative. Keep putting yourself out there in a way you think is fit, but when something happens that you think is negative, such as saying a joke that doesn't land or doing something strange, rather than berating yourself, thinking "why did I do that, the hell is wrong with me", catch yourself as you finish that thought and reassure yourself instead, forgive yourself. Reply with, "it's okay, that was pretty strange, but forgive yourself, you made a mistake, they happen, give yourself permission to try again knowing that there is a chance you'll make another mistake, it's fine if you do".
Treat yourself with some compassion; but maybe you find that difficult, as though you don't "deserve" to be reassured and you should berate yourself instead.
Two things, first, you've berated yourself your whole life, and where has that landed you? Maybe try being forgiving instead.
Second, if you don't feel you deserve compassion, I'm sure there are at least a couple people you care about, right? If you can't be forgiving to yourself for your own sake, be forgiving to yourself for their sake. What I mean by this is, treat yourself kindly not so that you can benefit, but because by treating yourself well, you become a calmer person and through looking after yourself, you are better able to look after other. Of course, you deserve compassion for your own sake, but if you can't accept that, then do it for those you'd like to help.
Also, when it comes to things you desire, such as better social skills, a girlfriend, sex, whatever, first accept that it's okay to have desire, desire is built into us, for water, friendship, fun. But say you desire something particularly badly, to the point that you say that you "need" it.
Let's use sex as an example. You want sex so bad, you say you "need" it. The fact that you're saying this shows just how attached you've become to the outcome. You may want sex, and to have a desire is neutral. To be attached to a desire is not "bad" per se, but it will likely bring you suffering, so if you desire to reduce your suffering, take a step back from your desired outcome and detach from it.
For example, perhaps I notice I have a desire for sex. Accept it, desire is desire. Should you act on your desire? That's your decision. Let's say you decide to act on your desire for sex, and do things that you believe will get you closer to your desire. It's all well and good acting on your goal to manifest the outcome you desire, but there isn't just one way to do it.
One way may be to be completely focused on getting what you want, you are expectant, wholly invested in getting what you desire. Go about it like this and you could be said to be attached. By being attached, throughout the entire pursuit of your goal you may be quite stressed, because you will feel you HAVE to work as hard as you can because if you don't, you won't get what you want, so there's that feeling of desperation, you don't want to not get what you are expecting to get. This line of thought arises from being too attached to the outcome. You may get what you want, which feels great, but getting there was pretty intense. Or you may not get what you want, and you'll be crushed, because you were so invested in getting what you wanted and after all that anticipation, that thing you were completely attached got away form you.
Compare this to pursuing what you want with a detached attitude. You know what you desire, you know the outcome you desire, and you choose to pursue said desire. Do this with a more detached attitude, and while working towards it, it's more like "I'd like to get this thing I want very much, it will be great if I do get it, but I know that the outcome isn't completely in my control, and if I don't get it, that fine, life will go on, there will be more opportunities out there, and I can keep trying if I decide". This completely shifts your frame of mind, if you get it, great, it'd what you wanted, however if you don't, you weren't completely dependant on the outcome anyway, you know life will go on, there will be more opportunities, and you'll be fine no matter what.
But how many of your fathers fathers fathers uncles died in war or were incels.
I would probably still be a virgin if I wasn't literally hunted down through twitter and met my long distance ex that way
But that was at 20. I could've easily stayed a virgin until now but honestly don't mind it so much. If you're presumably fit, then you only really need a good outlook on life and eventually you'll find someone who likes you.
Sex is a side effect of gelling with people
I was a virgin all through university and really beat myself up about it. Then within a few years of graduating I had several sexual experiences under my belt including losing my virginity.
My theory is that in many senses university isn't the uninhibited fuckfest it's portrayed in movies, but actually it's even more of a sausagefest than the rest of life. There are women but there's also lots of competition - and the bitches know they're in demand and can be selective as all hell.
Use uni as a chance to experiment a bit in the knowledge that in 3 years or less, you don't have to see any of those people again if you don't want. But chances are you'll have much more luck outside of uni with co-workers, women outside of your age group, outside of your social class and education level, etc.
There's plenty of fish in the sea but school/uni is more like a small pond.
This is kind of true. With enough confirming instances you can become an expert at failing. If that's the case you're probably being too passive and not really exploring what went wrong, why, and how can you do better next time. There's a reason for everything, even if that reason is something out of direct control.
I was a virgin until 21. Only slept with one girl until around 24. At 29 I have slept with over 20 (I've lost exact count at this point). 6 this year alone.
Been lifting for 2 years now. Some of these girls send me sexy nudes randomly, feelsgoodman.jpg.
You still have time to make it anons.
incels.me
Is one considered an incel if you don't try?
30 HHKV, never bothered to get a GF. I don't know why, but Ive just never felt like I could compete with other guys, so I just never bothered. Been working on myself trying to improve my self esteem over the last decade but I still dont have enough self esteem to try get a GF.
I'm at a point where I just ignore everyone and am pretty much a shut-in hermit outside of lifting weights. I think I am also afraid of what having a GF would do to my life, I feel so comfortable without one, and it seems like having a woman in my life would bring a shit load of stress, doesn't seem worth it just for sex, then again I've never had sex so I can't really know what I am missing out on. It is really that great that people are willing to sacrifice all their life for? I mean, I like spending time by myself, having other people around annoys me, I dont feel comfortable and relaxed unless I am 100% alone. Wouldnt have a GF shatter that completely and make me feel miserable all the time?
Incel is a label, a judgement, it's not a fact. It's a fact that a person may have never had sex, or that they may never have had a girlfriend. To refer to a person with such circumstances as an "incel" is a judgement based on those circumstances, a negative one. You can refer to yourself as an incel. You can call other incels. You can take it personally it when other's call you can incel, or you can let them say it and just let it go.
>Is one considered an incel if you don't try?
Some will say yes, some will say no, some will give an answer in between. What do you think? Who's judgement to you trust more, a mass of people online who likely care little for you and your personal circumstances, or do you trust yourself, the one person that can always be on your side, if you choose to take your own side, that is.
Weird triplepost but man a girlfriend is not a "thing" and people need to stop seeing at as a thing, a trophy or an object.
I know you probably didn't mean it that way but a girlfriend is just a person you're attracted to and that you enjoy spending your time with to the point that you want to be with that person a lot.
Don't get a girlfriend for the sake of a girlfriend, get a girlfriend because it's a person you really like and who makes you feel good.
All quite stoic of you. This is good advice for those who need it
>be easy going social dyle scared going to die a virgin
>get gf first week of college and lose virginity
>she breaks up with you get another one
>she breaks up with you
>go to gym for 2 years get 100s of matches on tinder
>notice getting a gf isn't even hard
>don't want gf anymore
>don't feel love anymore
>don't feel happy outside the gym
You've made it.
>you are a failure to your lineage if you are a virgin
Wrong. Your father and his father and so on did not just lose their virginities; more significantly, they reproduced with a woman (or women) to create offspring. If you haven't done this, then you are (by your logic) still a disgrace to your lineage.
Personally though, I think the pressure to reproduce is nonsense. Anti-natalists have it right in every way. Whether through the worrying calculations of finite resources on an ever-increasing population, or negative utilitarianism, or whatever other reasons, there is no reason to reproduce unless you are some pleasure seeking hedonist who mindlessly listens to a culture telling them they want to have the material commodity (among many) that is/ are children. The gnostics got this one right, trapping light into material form through primitive procreation in this world is simply evil.
Actually a girlfriend, as a girl who is in a relationship with you, is a thing. A girl is material, just like you and children and the trees and the mountains are. These are all things. If one wants to acquire a girlfriend as a thing that does not make it any less of a girlfriend.
>it's another "if you don't have sex you are a failure/incel/faggot/[insert meme buzzword here]" type of thread again
>people still fall for this shit instead of living their own lives the way they want
but by all means, keep putting pussy on a pedestal and believing that sex>the universe
>inb4 fedora/incel/twitter buzzwords
How here /volcel/?
Sorry I don't speak Reddit.
>if i left my room i'd most likely get laid ez
Virgins actually think this? Wow
Then wait until marriage
Found the virgin
Think whatever helps you cope user. Obsessing over something as mundane as sex doesn't seem healthy. If you say you don't obsess over it, then you are making the same point the user you called a virgin is. HAHA
>Her
I am at that stage of virginity where I'm so used to being alone and doing everything alone that I simply cannot even fathom having an actual "partner".
I can't imagine going to sleep and actually have an another human being an inch beside me. I can't imagine walking the streets while holding hands with someone else. I can't imagine walking into my parents house with a girl beside me, and I'm pretty sure not even my parents would know how to respond to that. It all seems extremely weird and alien to me. Even if I somehow miraculously met a girl that is interested in me, I couldn't just call her over to my place to "watch movies", I'm too damn self-aware of my situation and I couldn't play that normie meaningless small talk charade of "hey you will like this movie it's pretty good, got some popcorn too hehe" where I assume both people are completely aware that the movie is entirely irrelevant and you're there just to fuck.
Not to mention that I over analyzed kissing to such a degree that if I ever even get to experience my first kiss it will be inevitably be done 100% manually like a damn robot machine. And sex seems like a totally other wordly act altogether.
It's quite devastating to know that the vast majority of people never had to give a single thought into any of these things and it all just happened naturally for them, while I have to completely deconstruct any interaction I have in complete detail for days.
Is there any hope, can this be averted?
I'm at a similar point user. We are both disillusioned to the idea of a relationship with some random woman. It seems that once you become disillusioned, there is no return. Normalfags dismiss this mindset as meme words like "depression" because if they attempted to actually empathize with you they would eventually end up where you are. Don't feel pressured by your culture and peers to do anything, instead continue to cultivate your passions and skills in a way which fulfills you.
Also, regarding that alien feeling, if you look around, that feeling is all ever-present. Everything you do and see and experience is alien in some way. This whole existence is far from anything normal and can only be described as alien. Either use this idea as motivation to overcome the feeling (aka learn to ignore it) or continue down the path less traveled and be rejected by your culture (not as bad as it sounds).
>tfw saving the human gene pool by not polluting it further with my horrible genetics
Sometimes I think I should get the Nobel prize for my work
You are right to not reproduce but not because you have dissatisfactory genetics.
I think you have to consider that you feel like a girl is kinda like an NPC. Some girls are actually special and kind, that's when all of these pretentions will disappear, I promise you.
t. someone who was in the same boat
>installed tinder.
>Use same opening line every time, it always gets a response.
>Ask same generic questions and vary responses based on answer slightly.
>Close date with same message every time.
Im not even interested. I want off this ride.
26 kv yet everyone thinks I slay pussy on the daily which is kinda a good and bad thing. I must have some potential if I can feint being a Chad without trying, but Im sure I'm going to get exposed if I try talking to a qt. So that's why I don't talk or look at them.
>Tfw going to be a father at 22
Don’t fall for the meme, brehs
wow, I say hi and nothing happens. I love those advices.
got ghosted by girl i thought had a nice chemistry just now
>Also does getting head count as losing your virginity?
i wish it did
that sounds fucking terrible. shoulda worn a condom, dumbass. sorry, but it's true
i have had the same thoughts but when i finally got a date at 22 lo and behold even a KV can pretty much just go by feel alone. just go in for the kiss and react to what she does, not every girl kisses the same so u can't really study kissing. don't worry about it too much
Why am I reading all this shit when I had sex like 4 hours ago
You faggots will always make fun of hamplanets who eat 5 cheesecakes a day then invoke "muh genetics," then do a complete 180 and say you can't be more sociable & charismatic bc "muh awkwardness." Like a couple anons said earlier, you have to practice and learn through experience how to get better at being social, you're not just gonna become less awkward overnight. That's like being a DYEL Auschwitz mode manlet and saying you can't lift because you don't have the muscles for it. THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF LIFTING IN THE FIRST PLACE. Stop making excuses for yourself. Be the person you know you can become. You're gonna make it. We all are.
Cumming in them is amazing though. The warm flood around your dick. Feels like when you were a kid and you pissed yourself in your sleep before it got cold and woke you up, except sexual.
The initial warm rush on first penetration is amazing too. There's pressure, pressure, pressure then pop and it's almost too hot, like sliding into a hot spa. Those 5 seconds either side of thrusting are where a woman's worth is.
The 10-20 minutes of thrusting is pretty good too, allthough less good than the start and finish.
Just get a vasectomy and/or have her on the pill. Then it's worth fucking any chance you have, provided she's clean.
Condom sex serves no purpose.
I’m shredded and good looking but I’m a virgin. Can’t connect with anyone. I don’t know why.
Luckily I lost mine early and got it over with
I think for a lot of you it's just an endless cycle of overthinking or not realizing what league you're in, waiting for that 10/10 to approach you while you're like a 5 or 6 in low lighting
What astound me the most is that my father ever even had sex. Maybe he was different when he was younger, but the only thing I have known my father to be in 25 years of life is an angry, selfish, narcissistic, hypocritical asshole who me and my mother dislike and would celebrate when he was out of town on business trips. For a few years when I was younger he threatened up with divorce because they would fight all the time (basically him yelling at my mom) and he slept in the guest room for a few years and all i could think about was how there was no way in hell he would ever have a social experience again if he divorced my mom.
Never does anything social with anyone but my mother, never seen him with a friend, nothing.
>finish leg extension machine
>wipe it down with cleaner and paper towel, go to adjacent machine
>milf goes to machine, wipes it down entirely before using it
Basically how I feel as a 26 year old kissless virgin. I have never been on a date in my life or even asked a girl out. I just don't care at all. I don't cry about not having a girlfriend, don't have "feels" about not having a gf, nothing. In fact the thought of having a girlfriend honestly just annoys me. Everything I hear and see from people about having a girlfriend is just annoying and how guys get so upset when they break up. I think why bother. Not to mention my complete lack of experience in everything.
But I'm not going to pretend like I'm some alpha guy, the mysterious cool guy who doesn't need anyone, because I'm basically the complete opposite. I'm ugly as fuck, I'm skinny, and I haven't had friends since I was around 13 years old (this is likely the biggest reason for virginity above all else). Even though I've always been able to make people including girls laugh, nothing ever materialized. And I know that even though I'm funny I'm weird as fuck, and I bet that most people who meet me or know me would absolutely guess that I'm a friendless permavirgin.
I know my brain is mentally retarded, oh well.
This reassuring. Thanks for the advice basedanon
You got it pretty bad. But a good workout beats a bad bitch any day of the week... Or so they say
not a virgin. can't trust women after my ex of 6 years called off our wedding. not really interested and haven't had sex in a year. simply can't connect with them when you don't trust them and you have no interest in hook ups. dunno if i'll ever have sex again. oh well
I’m in the same boat as you, only child
If we fail our last names will die out (i have a male cousin but it doesn’t count)
At least we can activate scion mode
>tfw also only child
>26 and parents are 60 and 65
its never gonna happen. i killed our family name
I'm not though, couple of the men in my family died before they were able to get any pussy
Irrelevant though, I got wrapped up in Vidya in middle School and wastes all of high school on it instead of girls basically ruining my chances of having an easy time learning how to play the game. As a result I'm pretty damn unsure of myself, don't see much appeal in the idea of sex even since I've never gotten to experience it, and to top it all off I'm so jaded by the way normies are today that I ignore chicks that want to fuck in favor of cute girls that I actually like but it requires more work than I have an attention span for.
On the bright side my first gf didn't jerk me off a bit and even kissed the underside of my shaft twice plus I've made out with her and two other chicks so it's not like I'm full blown handholdless
>Knowing you lack self confidence sucks, but it sucks even more when you know HOW to be confident and get people to like you but can't practice it when it comes to girls only every other situation
>tfw virgin but just got a loving gf
Soon
This, you've already gone this long might as well go all the way and make it a present for the guy you want to spend the rest of your life with
>I feel so comfortable without one
That's nothing compared to how comfortable it feels to spoon with a girl who actually cares about you and will nuzzle into your neck
To be fair user pussy is at it's most premium in history and there will come a point where it ends
If you want to get laid even a remotely large amount there will literally never be a better time in history to do so
Protip. When the time comes make sure you finger and move into eating her out and continue until she cums. Only then put it in. Doing it this way makes it so she is already satifisied and if you blow early it’s ok since she got hers. You’re gonna make it bro
Thanks brah
>if I ever even get to experience my first kiss it will be inevitably be done 100% manually like a damn robot machine. And sex seems like a totally other wordly act altogether.
Nah, literally hundreds of thousands of years of evolution has been ground into your very DNA in how to kiss
Doesn't matter how bad you are it won't be robotic
Just imagine they're a friend of yours and you'd be surprised how much easier it gets
People are fascinating
Pic related
Nah, most of it is just the crippling anxiety due to the fact that women are the embodiment of chaos and they don't know what they want so trying to figure what's going on in their head drives you insane
JOURNEY
>tfw raised by a single pushover mother with 3 sisters and no brothers or father figure
It's not fair bros. I have fucking female thinking ingrained in me. I feel like I will never be a real man. Never had a chance.
>tfw 28
We're gonna make it brah (no we're not)
I'm 26, and I'm 99.9% sure I'll never not be a virgin. There's definitely something wrong with me, because I hate everyone, really bad. They disgust me. Can't stand talking to at least 90% of people for more than half an hour without wanting to kill myself. Guess I'll die alone, oh well; At least I'll leave a pretty corpse.
>became your gf before having sex
>raised by a pushover mother
try being raised by a manipulative one. Its fucking annoying as hell. Always using someone else to get out of some responsibility, telling people they are horrible for not doing what she demands, trying to alienate all the kids against dad, constantly throwing people under the bus, claiming dad is the worst father ever for not surrendering 100% of his paycheck for her to "buy things for the family" (uses money to buy stupid shit), lying, etc. She still tries as if she thinks I am still as dumb as I was back in elementary school. I love my mother but I have lost a lot of respect for her.
Normal if you're 16
>if you don't have sex you are a failure
You objectively are. You can't get something that the majority of other men can get without even trying very hard.
>you have to practice and learn through experience
Most of us incels learnt trough experience how to be awkward. You think most of were always like this? Turns out when most of our social interactions early in our life end up in mockery, people have a tendency to become more shut in.
Hello friends, I've had some trouble sealing the deal recently. I'm an attractive guy and I match with attractive women on tinder (pretty much the only way I meet women, though I've started going out more recently) but I'm a bit confused. The conversation will be going great, we exchange 15 or so messages, and then I say maybe "Let's get [popular restaurant] and we can discuss this further" and most of the time I don't get a response back. I'm not sure if its autism or just tinder girls being flaky and if anyone has some insight I'd be glad to hear it.