I spoke in detail with a sports medicine doc about squatting

>listening to dipshits on a anime card trading forum

You realize they just want your (You) right?

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>listening to doctors is detrimental to your health, its better to look through evidence provided from alternative credible sources and most importantly
This is the equivalent of saying "I bit my cheek while eating an apple SO AVOID ALL FRUIT"
Of course it's well fucking known that pharmaceutical companies are bribing doctors, screwing the public, defunding research that doesn't benefit them and all that other comic book villain horseshit but that doesn't mean that every piece of medical advice coming out of their mouths is meant to fucking kill you for money.

>>listen to your body, it knows more about itself than your doctor does
If that were true doctors would never existed I the first place you nimwood.

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squatting below parallel does no such thing, squatting to the actual limit of your knee flexion ROM does because at that point the knee joint is being pried apart

try it right now, do a hamstring curl until your calf touches your hamstring and keep going, you'll feel pressure in your knee because that calf/hamstring contact is basically acting as a fulcrum

>what now?

Now I call bullshit. I am 39 and started lifting 2-3 months ago. I squat every other day, high bar, just below parallel. I'm currently squatting a couple of kilos above my body weight and I feel like I have been given a brand new pair of knees. They have not felt this good in years.

>factual evidence
source manchild

> 2-3 months ago

These are the people giving advice on Jow Forums??

OP here - yeah but you're just squatting bodyweight. That's a really light load that basically doesn't even count as strength training.

85 kilos is not particularly light, even so I could squat a higher weight but I am in fact strength training and I am sticking to my program. As long as you have good form and don't ego lift then your knees will get stronger from squatting.

Well, that's 10rm OHP weight for me, so...

Calm down tinfoil-hat man

>and started lifting 2-3 months ago

which is why you should shut the fuck up and not post for another 2 years, your advice on anything lifting related is completely and utterly worthless

will a 12k jog wreck your knees? depends on whether your a trained marathon runner that weighs 30-65kg or 400kg almost immovable mass that can barely get out of bad.

I weigh about 75kg and can squat below parrallel to 100 reps (no weight) just fine.

It all depends on context.

So you're telling me OP's doctor was bribed by Big Lowbar, and is being paid to shill half-rep /plg/ squats?

Yup

this image shows max forces, but are the forces in all other parts of the ROM negligible? Isn't it also true that your ligaments and joints will withstand forces better in some positions and be more vulnerable in others?

This. I'm only 26, but I fucked up my right knee, my back, and tore a tendon in my foot. Started lifting heavy again after a few years and a few months later my knee doesn't wake me up at night and I lost the limp.

2 years in now and the difference is crazy.

I tore my ACL and damaged my meniscus, I had surgery and it still always felt really weak and the difference in quads resulting from the injury was very noticeable.

After moving from box squats to deep squats I literally have 0 issues whatsoever and have more flexibility than ever before at 28.

What I typed was not advice but a fact pure and simple, just because I have been lifting for only a few months does not make my experience worthless, I don't claim to be an expert but I know what my knees are telling me and it seems I am not the only one who is having the same experience.

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kek

In the context of long-term effects? Yeah, it bloody well does.

The only thing doctors are really useful for is cutting shit out of your body or moving bones back into place.

>Guys I've been to the gym only once, and let me tell you there's nothing wrong with deadlifting with a rounded back. I did 1x5 40kg and my back felt better than ever!
This is how you come across

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I'm a doctor.
I honestly don't know a lot of stuff and I know for a fact that a lot of doctors lie to their patients for stuff they don't know just to save face.
However, we're here to help people, not make their lives worse.

Out of 10 patients with common cold, 8 get mad at me or think I don't know shit if I don't give them antibiotics for it, so yeah, to not get fired by my non-physician boss I give them penicilin because everyone is pretty much resistant to it.

As for the knee thing, I haven't read a lot of studies that specify the best depth of a squat, besides starting strenght, but since people since the beggining of time have climbed stuff and doing a movement that looks a lot like an ass to grass squat, maybe it's not so bad for your knees. Arnold and Silvester don't have broken knees and they used steroids and lifted heavy ass squats for a living, i think you'll be ok, user.

>there is factual evidence shown that pharmaceutical companies prescribe with the intent of addicting patients to certain chems
that's complete bullshit. I'd gladly get addicted to something fun like opioid painkillers or benzos, but no doctor wants to give me the prescription. I've tried like 20 doctors and I only managed to get Xanax once. I can't even hope for a steady supply that's enough to get addicted

Why do people want antibiotics for a virus?

Kek, most shitty doctors would actually do it, but you actually need to be a specialist or have permission to sell those, but we usually make decent money so we don't put our job at a risk of acouple of meathead junkies.

You just subscribe antibiotics to people for no reason at all? You should get fired

*prescribe

Mostly placebo.
They hear the word infection and they (understandably) think antibiotics is the only way they'll be cured, but even if you try to explain them the differences between virus and bacteria they still want antibiotics "to keep it safe", when in reality, we're supposed to give antibiotics to 9 out of 10 pharyngitis.

Following medical laws and knowledge you shoudl first treat a common cold with pain killers and antihistamines, if the patient doesn't recovers in 7 days, you have to analyze the exudates of the patient and only then use the antibiotic that is sensible to the patient's bacteria.

But people want to get cured in 3 days and if you don't do as they please they'll think you're a bad doctor and lose your job.

I know, but my employer would fire me if I don't prescribe enough medicine and would just hire another doctor to do it.
Atleast I try to explain the patients why they don't need it.

>a common cold
>pain killers and antihistamines
America is a crazy place.

that's fucked up, aren't we supposed to be avoiding antibiotics where possible to stop diseases becoming resistant to them, rather than dishing them out for retards who don't know the difference between bacteria and a virus?

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We want a pill for everything, you can thank tv for that.

Yes, there's been a lot of deaths caused by bacteria resistant pneumonias as of lately, just because of this indiscriminate prescription of antibiotics.
That's exactly the reason I prescribe penicilin or amoxicilin, about 45% of bacteria is resistant to them, probably the most resisted antibiotics out there. I also send them with metamizole injections along them so they feel better in a coupleof days and people still think i'm not a shitty doctor.
But now you know I am.

>But now you know I am.
you really are. american medicine sounds weird af.

Luckily I'm about to start my surgeon residency and become one, so I won't have to deal with this shit, patients don't have much say when I just have to cut their insides.

had knee pain when I squatted at first and did not reach parelell

started to go deep and no more knee pain in 10 yrs lft.

If you are worried about hurting or keep experiencing switch to goblet and hack squat. You won't get huge but both protect knee well.

There was a big crackdown. But a decade ago it was different for the heroin pills.