/fast/ #188 - No Fate But What We Make Edition

FAQ
>How do I fast?
Don't eat
>How long should I fast?
Keep going
>Won't I be hungry?
Just at first
>Why not just limit calories?
idmprogram.com/difference-calorie-restriction-fasting-fasting-27
>Won't I go into starvation mode?
No, only occurs at extremely low body fat
>Won't I lose muscle?
Not if you lift. Minimal even if you don't. Fasting boosts HGH
>How long will it take me to lose X lbs/kg?
losertown.org/eats/cal.php
*water weight not included
>Can I eat (something with calories)?
A: No
>Can I drink coffee or tea? Diet soda?
Coffee and tea are probably okay. Sweeteners are probably bad. This is debatable
>So only drink water?
For longer fasts, supplement electrolytes. When you feel bad, mix around 1/2 tsp salt and 1/2 tsp potassium chloride/citrate in water and sip it throughout the day or take it as a shot. Adjust as needed. Headache=need more salts. Watery shits=need more water
>Where do I find potassium chloride/citrate?
Stores keep salt substitutes where they keep the salt. Names include NoSalt, LoSalt, etc.
>Do I need a multivitamin?
Not unless you're going for a month+
>How long does it take to get into ketosis?
Everyone's different. Just stop eating

GLOSSARY
Autophagy: When your body eats useless cells (loose skin, scar tissue, etc). A benefit of fasting
Dry Fasting: Fasting with no water. Dangerous, but it may speed up autophagy
Insulin: Hormone that regulates fat retention. Spiked by eating, especially carbs. Probably spiked by artificial sweeteners
Keto: Very low or zero carb diet that limits insulin and triggers ketosis.
Ketosis: When your body has used all of its carbs/glycogen and starts using fat for fuel

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Other urls found in this thread:

discord.gg/Raz5BhY
youtube.com/watch?v=D_PrQZ7T5wA
lybrate.com/topic/why-you-should-eat-breakfast-within-an-hour-of-waking-up/16574d08ec3a97609bde3bc69b5a49ba
twitter.com/AnonBabble

RESOURCES
>FUNG LECTURES
youtube.com/watch?v=YpllomiDMX0
>THE BASICS
youtube.com/watch?v=APZCfmgzoS0
>BENEFITS
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3946160
>CANCER
youtube.com/watch?v=LGafhm1cuSI
>AUTOPHAGY
cell.com/cell-stem-cell/abstract/S1934-5909(14)00151-9
>HUNGER
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29105987
>MUSCLE
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5064803
>DISCORD
discord.gg/Raz5BhY

Been doing 6 hour feed window.
I find that just before my first meal I get irritated super easy.
Is being hangry real?
Is there a medical cause for it like low blood sugar?

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>try fasting a couple days a week to cut
>get more muscle due to insulin sensitivity and test boost when eating on refeed days
>lowest body fat I've ever been
>feel amazing
>see research on autophagy
This is unironically the key to life

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>get more muscle
You expect us to believe this?

post fasting and lifting routine

>tfw no food

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Just get an instant ramen cup from your nearest store.

Perelandro's balls, I'm hungry and weak and cold and feeling faint. I have to do thisss
im a fatty lardtruck with shit eating habbits and havent exercised in all my life and i am a raging fapaccholic so igotta do nofap troooooooooooooo

Slow grilled lamb shoulder tomorrow. It's all that keeps me going these days.

then id be breaking my fast

got a wedding tomorrow and I think I asked them to cook my fish.

gonna chow down on that shit like nothing else.

Why is my pee yellow when I don't eat anything?

Will chewing gum hamper this in any way, specifically gum that still has sugar?
I really love bubblegum

He didn't say eat it.
Just look at it. Just stare at the nutritional data and look at all those sweet sweet carbs you could be eating.

Doesn't chewing gum spike insulin? I might be completly wrong though.

>Fast
>have the longest lasting and most realistic nightmare I've ever had

I REALLY fucking hope this is a one time occurence, because I can't take something like that multiple times.

You're probably just stressed out about fasting. Stop visiting this thread for a few days and don't think about food. Like don't even think about not eating food, just don't think about food positively or negatively at all.

How do I deal with sleeping hungry?

I was wondering this myself.

You just fucking do it.

If I am thinking to go on a fast for 3-5 days is chewing sugarfree gum and drinking sugarfree monster ok? Probably will take a multi vitamin as well to be safe

Snake juice or dry fast. Nothing else. Coffee and tea might be accepted though.

Some sweeteners can still cause your insulin to spike. Look into what types do and what types don't.

I went from 24h fast to 35h next target is 48h but I feel sick, like about to throw up at that stage.. If I reach the 72h on SJ I'll clean the shit out of me. Wish me luck.

What about Jow Forums's favorite monster energy drink

I don't know I can't stand monster.

Does anyone here actually have a good amount of muscle alongside fasting? Afraid of losing my gains.

I just can't deal with trying to go to sleep for an hour and a half every time I go past the 48 hour mark. Long term fasting ain't for me brahs

How do you deal with the keto flu during the 48h? Thats a bitch to get over but it's unbelievable how fast you get into ketosis! Ketostix shows color after 30-35h.

Faggot wimp
How about you stop being a fucking pussy and just DONT FUCKING EAT
Youre just making up excuses
Stay fat

So don't sleep for one day. I guarantee you after 40 hours awake you'll be able to sleep no matter how hungry you are.

Oh no, intermittent fasting isn't good enough for ya poofter ass. It's almost like some of us have actual responsibilities that we have to wake up for.
No can do. I have to be up pretty early

How about caffine pills? Just can't stand the taste of coffee

>It's almost like some of us have actual responsibilities that we have to wake up for.
Wow you sound like a faggot. If you had real responsibilities then you'd know that sometimes you HAVE to forego sleep, and if you've ever done that before you'd know it's not as hard as you think.

I used to be a truck driver, fag. I used to put in 14 hour days with little to no sleep in between for 6 days a week. Don't talk to me about that shit because I know better than you

>14 hour days with little to no sleep inbetween
I like how you say that as though you're the only person whose ever done that shit, every single person on earth with a job has pulled down ridiculous hours at some point, some of us do it regularly. You're not the only one, you're not special, and you CAN get through this if you push yourself, but you never will push yourself because you're weak.

That is the saddest dick waving contest. You're on Jow Forums, on a board with a bunch of closet homos, in this thread surrounded by fatties.

W-we're gonna make it I mean.

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Y...you too

Will eating a bowl of sugar break my fast if I eat it really quickly?

Yes to all, but it's mainly conditioning. After a week or so this stops, I think it's mostly sugar dependance and getting off your habits.

Chewing gum breaks your fast.

Can someone explain what's happening during the "keto flu"?

You feel like you're sick for a while but then it goes away.

Yeah but why you feel sick

Because of the keto virus

Like the other user said, you feel like you are sick but you really aren't, it's just a withdrawal from all the carbs and sugar stuff, you will start feeling sick, weak and sometimes you will start craving a lot of food, but it'll eventually go away.

Thanks for the explanation user.

95 hours in,9lbs. Still doing 2lbs a day. When will water weight loss slow down?

Purple /sips

When you run out of water lmao

Should I bother drinking snake juice during a 50ish hour fast?

if I'm already ~35% fat would it matter if I lift? will I just become full skelly if I fast a few days a week?

probably not but just add a little bit of salt to be sure.You wont be able to taste it

lads, I scared of the calorific content of saliva, should I be spitting it out? Can you recommend an aesthetic spittoon for under my desk at work?

>tfw you break your dry fast because you swallowed some saliva

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Does eating cum break my fast? What if it's only like half a cup?

If it's your own cum you''re fine.

autophagy is real

Cum contains carbs but they are so minimal they won't even affect your fast, so it's alright. If it's half a cup, I think that contains like 5 calories.

guys i have been 23 hr dry fast everyday for 5 days now.. and not pooping once.. is it normal?

>guys i have been 23 hr dry fast everyday for 5 days
So in other words you've been drinking water and calling it a dry fast for some reason?

I mean, 23 hrs not eating not drinking, after eating 2 bread with 1 egg and drinking 4 glass of water. been doing this for 5 days and not one shit come out. I am afraid i might have kidney stones.. :(

>before fasting
>shit every other day
>try out fasting
>shit twice a day

?????????

i'm starting to lose faith in fasting. i am 187Ib on the scale. when i fasted for 5 days in a row last week i was 172. Now what the fuck is that bullshit? Did I just gain a ton of weight? I did kind of eat bad, but still.

How fucking bad did you eat that you gained fifteen pounds in one week? That's not fucking possible. Maybe your scale is fucked.

can i do cardio while fasting? i think i had ketosis flu a couple weeks ago and i felt lik literally dying and my blood pressure got very low, is it dangerous? can somebody explain this to me?

How much did you eat, man? Jesus, or is your scale fucked?

What was your weight before the fast?

anyone here who do IF eat breakfast? how is it compared to skipping breakfast?

180Ib

how is shit and kidney stones related?
anyway when I eat and dont drink I get constipated. You probably too.

lads, I just realised that you can eat as much as you want if you just vomit afterwards. wtf! Why aren't you doing this? It's like an irl cheat code! Getting so many compliments.

just knocked back some vinegar, ive been on a snake fast for the past day now, holy shit it woke me up

Doesn't coffee have about 2 calories or something? Wouldn't that break the fast or is the amount way too small?

but thats gross and unhealthy

i am also considering doing this since come dinner time I'm usually hella hungry and thinking... well thats it until tomorrow at lunch and prone to overthink it and overeat.
But in the morning there wouldn't be any time since I'm rushing to work. A simple eggs n ham would suffice and I could go to bed thinking that I'll have a nice breakfast to look forward to...
Plus, going to bed hungry is nbd after a couple of these extended fasts I've done.
Gonna try it out next week.

i think im gonna start doing it too, gonna b a little diff 4 me tho (1hr eating window after waking)

youtube.com/watch?v=D_PrQZ7T5wA
lybrate.com/topic/why-you-should-eat-breakfast-within-an-hour-of-waking-up/16574d08ec3a97609bde3bc69b5a49ba

how long do i have to keep going till i see real fucking changes? I have fasted for 7 days before and didn't notice any fucking changes in my body.

It may actually be best if your goal is weight loss.

Fung said that during evening your insulin is raised by 30% comparing to morning.

depends on fat you are

well this is me. how long should i go

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which part of a fast is the worst? this is my frist time
t. last ate 14 hours ago

The first 72 hours

Honestly I find this sort of stuff just makes you hungry.

>Perelandro's balls
?

because gum stimulates digestion and your stomach starts fucking up. gum is a bad idea.

>tfw 23/1 with adderall, yohimbine, and sips in the morning

Eat keto for a week first.

how much do you weigh? you look like me minus 20 lbs

right now i weight about 180-185Ib.

Youre lying or your scale is fucked.

how tall and how fat were you?

to small and no insulin effect, youre fine

Complete and utter bullshit

Link me to the previous thread

why

i don't know. it's not even my scale. maybe i should buy a new one. but i am definitely in the 180Ib range. i am also 5'11 apparently.

Why does everyone ask about him and coffee and sweetners etc. If you can stop eating how is it so hard to give up stuff like this?

>Feel hungry
>smoke weed
>look at memes

Life is good

chew falim or any other mastic gum

Peterson is completely out of his element.
You 100% do not need to eat breakfast and every phd holder who talks about IF agrees. He also said you dont need to sleep at the same time which is also 100% wrong. And im not reading some article from fucking new delli.