Powerlifting General: You bench less than a soccer mom edition
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If Joff and Panzer were in a room, and I had a gun with two bullets, I'd shoot myself in the arms twice, still out bench press both of them, and then I'd fuck panzers mommy.
Thanks lad I've just nearly choked
Reminder that there's NO POINT in benching below horizontal upper-arms (other than wearing out your joints and lifting even less weight) and that if the bulk of your bench training isn't board/spoto pressing you're doing it wrong.
replace board/spoto with cgb/3,1,3 count and you are on to something
Why do people call normal bench volume work 'spoto pressing'?
Was it something unheard of in the USA before Eric did that?
>WAWTT?
Deadlift (beltless)
5@375
5@425
5@475
1x505 easy single
OHP
7x5@135 (60s rest)
Good mornings, curls, band pullaparts.
2 sessions left before a deload week, then a 3 week anchor cycle, then test week.
That wouldn't fit with the narrative of
>NO POINT in benching below horizontal upper-arms (other than wearing out your joints and lifting even less weight)
tho.
I'm not convinced that injury/wear and tear is anything more than overexposure to volume desu. Changing the joint angle of the exercise will help, I'm not debating that, but I think a lot can be done just by implementing proper volume/intensity dosing.
What? Spoto press doesn't touch the chest. That's just bro-repping.
>the body isn't made to lift things directly off your chest
Get a loaf of this brainlet
It's not made to lift things period. It's made to lift your own body.
>horizontal press
>mattering
In PL everything is vertical displacement except for BP
Reminder your stupid sport cant even get it right and use OHP instead of BP for a comp lift
>body is made to
Spook
The body simply is noone created it to do a function
This is why people don't want you to make the OP, you just can't have a nice conversation about something, you just devolve to pointless shit slinging like a chimp.
>inb4 muh projection
Just because there was no master architect (if that's what you choose to believe) doesn't mean it wasn't created. It is shaped by your genes, which were selected for their utility by their own success to propagate. I doubt pushing objects up from your chest was ever an important factor specially when compared to things like being able to push yourself off the ground or crawling. Look at this duds pecs.
who's joff?
I thought the main point of spoto press is to pause it and control right above the chest, bros don't do that.
throwing uses chest. humans are the best throwers
Yeah ur mum is pretty good at throwing that ass back lmao
In common usage it is, that's how I use it and program it for my lifters and most other coaches do too from what I've seen.
But Spoto himself just does it like a bro press. You see it on the supertraining video he did with Mark Bell.
Projection
You also werent designed to shit in a toilet doesnt mean you cant or shouldnt do it
Biological determinism is retarded
How do l stop the barbell from scratching up my back?
It’s become a problem recently
I use the hexbar every 4th or 5th week for high reps and to spare my lower back from conventional. Using the handles in the low position gives me no pain whatsoever. The moment I switch to high handle position I get a shooting pain in my upper lat that goes all the way to my shoulder, tricep and forearm.
Obviously I don't do high handle anymore but just curious as to what might be going on.
I'm not a determinist, unless thinking that you're genetically determined to have an easier time shitting ATG than on a toilet even if you can do both is determinist, then yes.
Why don't you spare your back doing [spoiler]sumo[/spoiler]
Hexbar deadlift is not a deadlift.
>lifting dead weight off the floor is not a deadlift
Jefferson, trap bar, behind-the-back, sumo and conventional are all deadlifts.
You’re missing what I’m saying
The whole “its not natural” arguement is what I’m calling biological determinism and it doesnt make any sense cause if your body can do it it is natural
>if your body can do it it is natural
Then how come you can't have sex?
Am l the only one that loses feeling in their arms during squats they keep falling asleep
RIP my hips and knees. idk whats wrong but theyre fucked
getbettersoonm80
It's a linguistic matter. I doubt we're in disagreement about biology of the matter.
Swimming is more natural for a dophin than a human, so they swim better. Doesn't mean swimming is unnatural or bad for humans. On the other hand, unlike for cows, it is unnatural for humans to eat grass, and if you eat grass you're gonna have a bad time. You can call that unnatural or however you like.
Read that again and tell me it made sense
two reasons right there too become bench-lord
It only happened to me doing squats for 10x10 with 4-0-2-0 tempo
Idk what caused it but it has happened before
Never in normal sets though
Watch dr hip's videos.
my bench has also gone to shit. I posted a couple of weeks ago about having flu and my bench going down. its was either fatmess or fat retard who said it would come back but it hasnt :(
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I ripped my pants while squatting, what can I do to avoid this in the future?
Stop squatting.
Pull the legs up like shorts, then before squatting also pull your crotch up
Buy better pants.
I actually thought of doing the opposite after it happened, pulling the top down to my butt cheeks but your idea sounds better now that I think about it
It was while warming up I still did all my sets with my trunks showing, it fucked up my form because I was too self aware about it though
Do you have a recommendation?
It's how I always do it, never had a pair of pants tear until I forgot it one day
r e b e k a
k o h a
I really dont understand what you are trying to imply???
You guys doing a happy hour after work today? Those are always fun
Adidas climacool shorts are fine. I've used them for a couple of years with no tears from squatting, deadlifting, powercleaning or biking to the gym. They're a bit stretchy but have thick fabric ans supposedly transpire (who cares) they also dry fast. Cons: not sexy (loose fitting, a bit glossy). I've had a few pants made of non-stretchy fabrics and cotton and they all tore at the butt or desintegrated at the top of the thigh from contact with the bar, or at the inner thigh. These are the ones that have survived the most by far.
Everyone is gone and its only me here and I’m doing my PT exercises lol
You're such a pathetic faggot. Can't you just put your autism on hold and pretend to be a human being for a little bit?
I’m racking in money for nothing lol blow me
Work socials usually suck
They don't suck at my company but that's because we're all software geeks with Maths or Physics degrees.
can second this
>WAWTT?
High pulls for sets of 10
Wide Grip Pendlay-ish Rows for sets of 12
Shrugs for sets of 20
Pull-aparts for sets of 25
Basically light back day and some fluff for health.
>WAWET?
Some cheese and blood sausage earlier today. Taco a couple of hour ago.
>WAWLTT?
youtube.com
>WAWFT?
Very okay desu.
>tfw wristlet
Not even gonna bother lifting
>we're all software geeks with Maths or Physics degrees
Sounds awful
>third session in a row skipping squats or deadlifts because of lowback pain
At least it's getting better ;_;
cheers mate, I will do some shopping tomorrow and see what I find
God punished you for pulling conventional
You got back to the grind quick after that meet. Your advanced enough now that it might be time for an offseason.
>God punished you for pulling conventional
God punished you with a Bobby Hill face and a limp dick.
yfw i figured out how to use hams on highbars without bending over like in a gm
i now just hit depth lol thx gbro
Yeah they're not crazy but they, weirdly enough, we get on really well. Our christmas party was a trip to the cinema to see Star Wars and then we went for burgers and had a couple of pints with too much food.
Best work party I've been to
Can somebody explain to me what the fuck is rows used for? Like I do them anyways just because, last time i tried maxing out i could do 10kgs above my bench without having ever done them before. Now im starting at a small number and increasing weight every sesion.
Like I get that it builds some sort of a strength base in somewhere and and that something might make me stronger overall but i dont understand the full purpose of it.
The exercise is just fucking boring and I have only a very slight understanding how it transfers over to my bench and deadlift.
deadlift: It makes my lower back stronger by holding it statically which seems kind of like a meme to me but im doing it anyways. Can anybody tell me how rows for the back is superior to regular deadlifts exactly?
Bench: It uses some sort of antagonist muscles that are the opposite of what i use for benching. But im not convinced it has any big carry over yet.
But how will rows help my physique and strength?
Ironic
>he skips sessions instead of working through the pain and remaining in that state permanently.
Have you ever heard of "lats"?
wrong thread guy
Hah, there's multiple things wrong with this statement.
Maybe, I've been doing reverse hyperextensions this week and it's been helping. Gonna do lighter, higher rep work next week for squats and deadlifts, probably some highbar and front and get back to things the week after.
I haven't skipped them entirely, been doing things that don't load the spine instead. Actually doing some good mornings right now so we'll see how those go.
>The exercise is just fucking boring
Are you using strict form? Add some weight and body english, it becomes fun then.
> Have you ever heard of "lats"?
Ah yes i can do 100kg on the lat pulldown machine but i dont really feel it in the rows. Maybe it will take me a few weeks.
Yeah but it's an assistance exercise for the main movements :(
Apparently theres something like Dorian Yate Rows that i have to try out. Il do it on my light days.
what does it mean if you do a hard lift
and feel a little lightheaded halfway through
but you manage to lock it out and then rerack
and then you feel REALLY lightheaded and your vision gets all dark and cloudy and your arms shake a little for 5-10 seconds?
should i be worried?
you'll be fine
>things that don't load the spine instead >good mornings
Wait what?
That happens to me when i did serge nubret program aka 8x12 squats at 75% plus 8+ sets more for legs. Over time u will stop passing out on heavy lifts.
ok i'm a little less scared now
i'm curious, what causes it?
Until today I should say. I've been doing belt squats and reverse hyperextensions instead until today.
CNS fatigue. youre ok stop being a idiot and enjoy it.
Idk, the pressure, oxygen levels changing, blood pressure w/e, you will be fine
It means you nees to do more cardio.
Blood pressure drop.
hmmmmmm i have in fact been doing a few near-max singles almost every day for the better part of a month
that's not very helpful
why even bother posting that
off yourself
hmmmmmm i have in fact not done any cardio in the past 4 years
normal barbell rows are fucking trash, do seal rows or machine
Are you having a stroke?
lol how did I end up responding to that
Mate invited me to the pub and my my highschool crush is here
Keep making awkward eye contact
Someone save me
Say hello.
Or don't, I can't make you not be a bitch.
Thirded. Kind of annoyingly loose, but I haven't seen shorts I'd rather wear.
It would be so easy for me to say that to somebody else, it's easy to think about and say "no big deal, I know how to say hello" but I don't think I could force myself to actually do it if my life depended on it.
still no evidence of your lifts, jimlarper
> Or don't, I can't make you not be a bitch.
Someones been reading GLO.
>third session
haha
i haven't been able to deadlift consistently since november and my near 6pl8 pull is just a distant memory, even squatting fucks me up every other time i attempt it
I had low back pain but i improved it by doing isolation work for my hips,traps,low back.
Basically isolating the muscles instead of doing the deadlift itself. 45 degree extensions with a plate have really made me a lot more explosive but you can probably use a barbell for it and slowly build up every session. 3x8 etc.
Standing ab pushdowns for abs and hips, Shrugs and 45degree extensions. Maybe it is helpful maybe not.
he quit like the bitch he was
my wilks is like 230, should i kill myself?
no
this
what is casual lifter mode? 300? 400 is like competition level right?
thats elite on symmetricstrength dont worry
for a natty its impossible to go above 350wilks
~350 is good enough to be competitive in local competitions
~400 is good enough to be competitive in regional competitions
~450 is good enough to be competitive in national competitions (outside of the US)
~500 is good enough to be competitive in international competitions