Nattt WL/PL is literally a meme. You dont gain ANYTHING from it, when youre natty you just can NOT recover enough to make significant progress. You end up training sore and with a dead CNS which will eventually end up injuring you. NATTYs can better do ANY other sport or do a bro split.
Speaking from experience 110 snatch 130 cj as a natty but injured me many times and did not gain any national rank. Dont do it
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>Natty anything is literally a meme
more at 15:00 stay tuned
>bro I did a program with volume and intensity that I couldn't recover from, so that means you can't train natty
Those numbers are literally panzer tier you DYEL twinkshit.
sorry you are genetic trash bro
us 100% natties will keep crushing the weights and the pussy
You're just incorrect.
I know many natural national PL champions on great Britain, Sweden and Italy.
You just have no talent like me
Anyway sport is more fun natural.
Final remark
Your WL coach is probably shit.
Dude I hate to be a dick about it but oly lifting seems guaranteed to trash you eventually. How can big weights plus momentum not lead to a bad outcome at some point?
Nah you’re just a GDE.
My WL coach was 2nd national in my country in 1974. Hes an older man. And even he claimed that he was on Deca-durabolin back then, and even told me when I hit a serious plateau, deca should be the option if I wanted to get serious
Anyway, if you cant earn your bread with WL or PL why waste time on it struggling natty to get your diddy PR up by 3 lbs after working 8H per day LOL@YOU
Being natty you should atleast be able to hit 315snatch and a 405 clean and jerk. That or I’m just very optimistic
>405 clean jerk
>natty reachable
Maybe if you were born in Chernobyl. The factors keeping you from reaching that are
>work (assuming youre not some neet)
>fatigue , body just cant recover training in heavy rhytm for long period of time
>injuries ,, steroids literally protect your joints with a layer of some substance
>I know many natural national PL champions on great Britain, Sweden and Italy.
Tony cliffe got to a 5 plate bench press training bench once a week, he's a genetic freak that has nothing in common with the average fitizen.
Most people here would never even reach a 4 plate bench by training it 3 times a week.
Your recovery a shit, you weren't even strong kiddo.
My diddiy was 210kg hookgrip stiff legged , is that weak?
on Jow Forums yes
Did that in my first week
Blocks your path
Uhh, yes.
Also
>deadlift
>carryover to weightlifting
Just lol, what was your squat?
Hah he literally trained me in Ankara, this is not my coach tho. Trained a couple of weeks with him. Taner sagir
>linking him a video he made himself
Did your head get bounced off of concrete?
Because sport gives purpose to life beyond youd work.
I like going to the gym after work. I socialise, I get sweaty and I make progress.
Honestly you seem like a psychological and genetic dead end.
I'm thinking Owen, Filip Lindström and Rocco Grillo.
Not true. You just dont know how tp program for yourself. Its highly individualistic and you wont make it to your potential on cookie cutter.
Im 5’9 148 lbs and bench 320, squat high bar 435 and front squat 315.
Just found what works for me senpai. Progress was slower despite less trainin age till i did
As a 105kg+ lifter sure.
Maybe as a 105kg.
As a 94kg if you're very talented.
As an 85kg if you're a freak.
>trips on a japenese forum
>calls other psycho
?
Damn, PL truly is a meme. How do you lift so much and still look like the average gym bro?
Owen is a freak but trains hard.
Fil is a freak, so is rocco.
Are they competing well now? Seems that at least one of them has burned out.
>i like to go to the gym
>i get sweaty and make progress
What progress mate? Adding meaningless numbers to meaningless lifts?
bro split is the best program for roid heads you stupid monkey
natties needs frequency in the beginning of their journey, and switch after
caant believe fat retards like you post on my precious board
Filip and Rocco are recovered from their latest injury and doing a comp in the next 3 months.
Also bryce.
Anyway yeah they're freaks and OP is not. That's all. He lost the genetic lottery, no chemical can change that.
Yes. Everything is meaningless though: find me meaning
why do english accent so retarded
Blanket statement. You talk like every person responds to the same frequency/volume/intensity
klokov has the best body
Because I'm pretty fat.
Id look really good if I cut 10kg but I have no interest in doing that because I'd rather look like shrek and bench 150 or whatever pathetic weight than look good and bench 130 again.
You may want something different and that's fine.
Isley
I have ape arms 6'2 6'7 wingspan
I can diddlydoo 4plates for 5reps and my best sumo diddly to date is 200kg
I lift for 1.5years from couch potato mode
Can i reach lmao7pl8 naturally
It's unlikely. Get to 220kg first, and then plan for 240 and so on. This is the best strategy though.
Im aiming to get 5plates before end of 2018
For what fucking purpose?
What?
Fucking??
Purpose???
?
>sport is more fun natural
Amen to this.
I'm not a roid hater. Being able to push the natural limits as far as you can is a nice journey.
You don’t understand the level of volume a human is capable of enduring. Of course you can’t jump right into it but it’s something you can slowly work towards.
Good goal. Remember to do your volume.
>Adding meaningless numbers to meaningless lifts?
What the fuck are you doing in this board, man? Get back to /b, neet.
I come here to discuss sports, fitness is a pretty fucking useless sport
Because unlike you some people want to just move things that do not want to be moved off the floor, and put it back down.
You wont be a free man unless you will do what you really want.
Besides, as a natty, watching numbers go up is direct measure of you improving yourself.
No other lift makes me feel as good mentally as deadlift.
squatting an benching is nice and all, but diddly is best.
I don't do fitness lmao
To do something epic you fucking faggot.
Ive come up with meme routine of my own
Give me some quick thoughts.
Sets and reps its basically linear progression still, with small dose of autoregulation on big 3
Henlo smol boi
Imagine walking somewhere in town and some hot 10/10 milf ask you what you do to get that body. What will you say? Huh?
> M’am I practice powerlifting
P-powerlifting? What’s that she replies.
>powerlifting is a branche of sport where one continues to progress in 3 compound lifts, etc blablabla
Shut the fuck up nerd powerlifting is also fitness
The reply is wiifit and yoga you retard
And then you overheadpress the milf
>pl is fitness
Lmao
It's always a fat tripfag larping. Always.
fatman cope
Lmao @ skinnyfat “powerlifters” thinking “powerlifting” is an actual sport
Stop wasting your CNS and time bros
Non-competitive lifters like you just don't understand. You lift for what you see in the mirror because you want to look good, and that's fine, but lifting to compete in a >sport is something else entirely. We do it to compete, we do it for fun, and we do it because we get to make friends.
If you think powerlifters that fill out their weight classes are skinnyfat, I'd like to see how small you look.
The actual sad part is that these guys look better and are stronger than most people on fraud.
Im 6’0 225 nigu
Ex WL-er btw after realising I was trapped in a meme-cycle
>natty
This is less important than bone structure. You should be really be mocking wristlets like me
Frame limits how much mass you can put on naturally, so yeah genetics again.
Even then, its not roids making the elites, its genetics and then pushing your lifts to next level with roids.
>225 and can only snatch 100kg and c&j 130kg
Those stats are unironically pathetic.
It's actually almost entirely genetics Tbh, the sovietcel WLers are not even on 1/10 the amounts of gear the USAcels are since they actually do some OOC testing unlike USA.
How is he skinnyfat?
Mind you I was young when I started and also quite young when I quit memelifting
As a natty 16 year old that goes to school 9-5 and has to workout with a rusty barbel with 1970s sovjet plates, that was pretty good is you ask me
>someone has different goals than some retarded gymcel
>HURR STOP WASTING TIME NATTYKEK
I bet my ass Omar mogs you on all big 3 naturally while you are larping manlet with 3 months of lifting experience (2months on test-e)
Not to mention his back is aesthetic as fuck, despite being not so lean
Ive snatched 70kg (doing the lift like 5 times total) with garbage ass form and cj 100kg at less bodyweight.
again, i dont even train those lifts.
Just accept the fact that youre GDE, maybe endurance sports is more of your forte
>gde
Is this out new promised meme? What happened
Not him and I don't make fun of people for what they look like, but srsly omar looks pretty bad for the time he's been training.
He's not even a powerlifter though, he just does strength training because he likes it.
I've seen people at my gym train merely for bodybuilding who look miles stronger than omar, but are in fact weaker.
Let's face it, no one here is gonna break world records, so what's the point of focusing on strength training?
You do realise that its ALOT of volume to progress a LITTLE bit over a LONG ass time with FORM and COORDINATION practice? You cant just snap city 70kg above your head and claim others numbers are shit because you snapped a barbell up yolo
Man, when I was 18 I unironically trained weightlifting for a year or so.
My (gym, too shy to compete) PRs were 100 and 125kg at 90ish.
I have some more webms somewhere but this was filmed in 2011
>ex powerliftercel
>switched full on to bodybuilding
>look miles better
>feel miles better
>actually look strong now with bulging traps and delts and arms and a pissening back
I am never going back, fuck this strength training meme, I feel stronger in regular day to day activity too carrying groceries and ohp'ing my gf just due to how much more muscular I am.
>skinnyfat
I watch bodybuilding motivation 4hours a day:the post
>he legit thinks strength and mass don't go hand in hand for natties
You are stronger now because you are bigger.
Meanwhile i did just that
Like i said, shit form with zero coaching, i just knew how the lift +/- looks like. So i dont find it would be impossible to add 30kg or more easily within few months of practice. And im totally not built for OLY.
>its a practice long term thing
You dont say retard
You dont GET GOOD at anything fast unless you are some freak. Nothing worth mentioning was ever achieved fast or without sacrifices being made.
If you are not willing to put in the work to reach YOUR maximal potential, thats fine, just dont cry when others point it out.
im not kidding myself, im never going to be able to reach WR deadlifts, that doesnt stop me from trying to get stronger.
>carrying groceries
>requiring any significant degree of strength
T. 160lbs twink in soamed shoes
Olympic lifting in general is a meme. Imagine spending 16 hours a week in the gym and looking like complete shit. That’s what Olympic lifting life is- the lifters who look good like klokov or Lu Xiaojun are on steroids and spend even more time training dedicated to bodybuilding work.
Christ this is bad
I have 17.5" arms now and I bench 30lb less than I used to.
My legs are the same size as before(25"), and I can only squat 75% of what I used to.
Looks better than mine desu
>doing acessory work that specifically targets muscle groups critical to improve and execute lifts = bodybuilding work
The absolute state of this board
why are you using memes faces when you lift dude
i mean seriously lmao
I have 17.5" arms and I'm not a little bitch who thinks you can't lift heavy and get bigger.
Actually you have to get bigger to lift heavy.
91kg and my delts and traps would tire and burn carrying like 2 bagfulls of groceries on each hand before, now I can carry them with ease all the way home because I actually train my traps/delts and forearm muscles to relevant degrees.
Now do a powerlifting program for 8-12 weeks and see huge PRs
Yeah but you're also severely fatter than me.
Strength training requires time spent, it's not hard at all, you're not a badass just because you lift weights with a higher load for less reps.
Might be the slowest pull I have ever seen my dude, it's like you are reverse curling into a squat Tbh
I got jumper's knee :(
>calls himself powerlifter
>his traps cant handle 20kg of weight in each hand
Did you ever hear about training your upper back? Did you ever did rows?
Squatting 2plates and deadlifting 2.5doesnt make you a powerlifter you know.
I know, I knew literally nothing back then. It's garbage I don't pretend otherwise.
This is better than Panzer's current PR
130 circlejerk
I did countless pullups and I deadlifted over 6 plates before, even then I had issues with physical activities outside the gym that don't require the lifting of perfectly balanced barbells.
Natty here
PPL MWF with a heavy lift first is the best we're gonna get (except for like the first 2 months when you can do SS)
the Chinese literally refer to it as “bodybuilding work or physique work you absolute retard. I lifted for an entire semester with Jianping Ma
Yeah i call a no on this one bro
But feel free to prove me wrong
T. Doing farmer walks with 70kg each hand and first thing to give away is grip, never traps
If your groceries weigh 50kg in each hand then you should consider going more often to store (or go to your car 2-3 times)
>3 days a week brosplit
You know how I know you're small and weak?
him: lean 17.5" arms that look big in a shirt
you: 17.5" fatceps at 250 lbs bodyweight that get shadowed by your now-developed gyno. If you cut you'd get back to your old bodybuilding/fitness prime izlee, which was probably around 16.5"?
it doesn't, or atleast it's not as simple as you think it is. Strength and size will go hand in hand as soon as you hit late advanced/elite levels after 5 years of proficiency, but it's easy for an amateur powerlifter that trains on a regular PL program for a few years to neglect hypertrophy
Why even talk about beginners?
None of that shit matters.
bodybuilding work isn't critical. Klokov, as much as I like him no homo, was btfo hard by Aramnau who is a pudgy dyel manlet with half the upper body mass
because 99.9% of Jow Forums is below that mark, i.e. below ~2/3.5/5/6?
Hypertrophy work might not be
But i said muscle groups that are critical like lats.
perhaps you should workout at library some more