Weak men

i mean japan beat south africa in 2015 rugby world cup. So should i use your logic to generalize japan or just think that there are different types of people in every country?

>2012+6
>not voting for the most hawkish party in your country so you can warmax

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Because men stopped exposing themselves to danger. Combine that with all the chemicals in our food and all the plastic in our environment and you get "men" with test levels of a female child.

We need another fucking world war to fix this shit.

I have believed this to be true for years and am glad to see another person thinks the same
stay based user

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>t.

why is it always the ugly virgin genetic trash that actually believe this? There always has to be a reason to explain why they're unsuccessful in the society they live in

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So many good arguments. Good job, user.

Guys on the right are male escorts. Women literally pay to hang out with them.
Did you understand what you just read? Your stupid "women don't know what they waaant" cope won't work this time. Women pay real, tangible money, for these dudes that aren't even your manly muscular men. These are the guys women want. How can it be, what cope will you use to salvage your warped reality this time?

>tfw no xenoshits to wage eternal war with to keep humanity at its physical, mental, and spiritual peak at all times

I know the stress of long term warfare would do damage but we need a greater goal to work towards.

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>basing your entire value on whether or not roasties want to fuck you
literally everything that's wrong with modern men

Not everything is summed up in what woman want, user.

There is no argument, OP cherry picked for a bait thread. Regardless, people are unironically claiming that "men r pusys weak nowadays" while chads are fucking girls every night. It's just cope, the only people who ever complain about the society they live in are LOSERS who cannot appropriately adapt to it

Women have no idea what they want lad. What women want is irrelevant anyway. Building yourself around "what women want" is the surest and most definite sign you're not gonna make it.

bc

it's simple: pic related

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lol, what teh fucking hell? Its either oyu want a violent society filled with violent crimes or you want a society filled with respectable people. You can't have both you fuckin idiots.
Just join a god damn sport

Because these fantasies are basically porn for guys insecure about their masculinity.
They read shit like "real men are strong and dangerous" and they get all hyped and shit, yeah that's right, that's my true calling, this 9 to 5 shit isn't the real me.
Then they go on to write their fantasies about what it takes to be a REAL man and fighting wars and shit even though they've never done any of that but apparently that's the only way to fix how insecure they are about their masculinity.
men who are already comfortable with their identity don't even pay attention to this kind of nonsense.

>soldiers/warriors
>violent criminals

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>but also depletes it as brave and athletic men are killed while soft men at home never even hear a gunshot.

possibly not true. drafts are the great equalizer.

If they pay money for the guys in the right and not for your wh4k larping ass I'm pretty comfortable making an educated guess on what it is they really want

why are there white guys and a bleck man on Japan's team

yeah, I've had the same thought.
the world falls into degeneracy if not counter balanced by brutality and great potential for loss. we have it too good and that will ultimately be our downfall.

>war
>everyone's the good guy
>no one dies

oh wait..

literally turning the frogs gay

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>warmax
I...i can finally use this!

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>You can't have both
That's where you're wrong

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>men who are already comfortable with their identity don't even pay attention to this kind of nonsense.

>writes all of this
>is on Jow Forums
AAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

you can, in a world of eternal war...
can't do that now cause you know... nukes

Period movie actors vs jpop bishi posterboys

warfare is embedded in the genetic code of every living thing.

Perspective. in truth the old world peasants gave up the luxuries of bum life for the servitude of contemporary technology.

We use sports/entertainment media as proxy warfare and leave it at that.

i honestly have no idea. I just got into rugby and the national teams have a bunch of players from other countries. The hong kong team is mostly white people. The korean team is all koreans and they suck. I think the players from other countries really helps out with coaching and drilling.
But as for the japanese rugby team in 2015 olympics, it was mostly japanese men.

>shows 1 picture of soldiers being nice to a child

It goes both ways. There are scum who killed children and raped women in wars and soldiers who had morals that stayed away from killing children and raping women.

>you can have peaceful society without violence in eternal war

yeah............. this isn't fucking dragon ball z you idiot

In Hitler set an example as the leader and was kind to animals and children. Many followed his example as they saw Hitler as a role model. They were nevertheless ruthless towards their enemies. The point is you can have a society that wars for valid reasons (in this case to destroy communism) and maintains civility.

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OBLIGATORY
youtube.com/watch?v=TIQynsWpBpQ

The Japanese are docile today, because their leaders allowed themselves to have American occupation. Essentially, they debased themselves to submitting to American and western influenced after losing the war. When they had higher ambition and wanted to take over Asia, they had a stronger will that the rest of their men possessed. Today that is lost. Their solution is to come to common terms with China and take over the west. A people prepped for war, creates stronger men.

but that would lead to something that isn't eternal war which is what is being argued for. If hitler had been successful, war would have eventually ended due to the end of his perceived enemies. Which lead to this thread.

>the need to outcompete others results in stronger populations

gee, great deduction. doesn't that sound similar to sports? no need for war faggots, just join a competitive combat sport. But going against people who you know are weaker is considered weak shit as well so you always have to go for stronger people.

never said I wanted a society filled with violent crimes, just think that people lose sight of whats important (e.g. family values, sense of community, general feelings of purpose) in times of peace and prosperity
is right that without the unifying threat of death by a common enemy, people descend into the worship of vacuous celebrities and infighting (political, racial, literally any difference of opinion)
>without the context of true conflict, all small differences become points of war, just look at the yanks and their antifa vs alt-right shit

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I think it's fascinating.
That's the premise for the whole MGTOW/Peterson/the way of men craze and once you realize that it's enlightening.
An entire movement, thousands of people, all united under the banner of crippling insecurity.

fuck off schlomo

>Hitler set an example as the leader
So I should also be abusing the shit out of cocaine and opiates and purge ethnicities that I'm butthurt about?

>comfortable with their identity
What the fuck does that even mean? More "insecure"-tier psychobabble to try to get you to do the opposite of the healthy thing. It's like I'm reading (((The Authoritarian Personality))).

Our cultural leaders tell lies about the sexes so people get excited when they find out how things really are. It's useful information!

C'mon, OP

This is just bullshit. I mean, we all know that modern Japan isn't nearly that masculine.

really just the one

No because Hitler advocated for a totally different set of values from today's society. He heavily promoted sport, combat skills and valor in young men. He wanted them to be strong, honest, honorable, fit, dependable, sharp and take care of their nuclear family. While in today's society values like cowardice, betrayal, manipulation, passiveness, moral perversion, greed and selfishness are not only tolerated, but encouraged. Young men are encouraged to play video games and sit in front of PC and TV instead of going /out/ and exploring. You don't need to war 24/7, just let men be men instead of castrating them and enticing feminine behavior in them.

>our cultural leaders tell lies about the sexes
OR
People are actually starting to examine how the arbitrary aspects of traditional gender roles and how they're causing more problems than they solve
But no, you're probably right, it's all just a conspiracy to turn you into a woman.

This is not a global phenomenon and it doesn´t need addressing. You´re imagining things, probably because you´re on imageboards the entire day were people bitch about the diet plans of others and argue about whether all women of the world want the Hulk for a husband or not.
If you don´t want to be weak, work out. Simple as that. As for "Japan Back Then" and now: Fashion changes, ideas and conceptions of masculinity change all the time.
Idealizing a purely imaginary point in history will lead you to self-loathing, feelings of inadequacy and will make you a shitty person.

think you guys just dont know were to look.

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>arbitrary aspects of traditional gender roles
so were do you think these roles come from?
nowadays they are treated as a conspiracy to turn you into a man

Are you listening to the bullshit spewing out of your mouth?
Aside from the fact that modern society doesn't actually value that kind of shit, the shit Hitler talked about was the result of the kind of insecurity and fear that eventually resulted in the deaths of millions of "undesirables".
Hitler didn't live up to ANY of those values. He just talked a big game.

jews spread out hentai porn to lower testesterone levels in japanese men, so they will never attack pearl habor again

>a coward, paranoid opioids junkie who ruined europe, invaded neighboring countries by manipulation, greed and ruined his race out of selfishness prompting good values
>this is what pol actually made themselves believe
lol

Molded and informed over hundreds of years of different societies, ethnicities, and civilizations interacting.
The Greeks and Romans thought it was manly to fuck little boys in the ass, pink used to be represent the color of boys, there are plenty of changes over the years.
Here's an example of how current masculine values can have cause problems for men:
>"Who you are in the past is embedded in you. Men have trouble dealing with older age because they've followed a masculinity script that left little room for them to negotiate unavoidable problems.

>In our study, we hear men struggling with grief, which is a vulnerable state, and caregiving, which is associated with femininity. If they must cry, men feel it's to be done in the home, away from others, even when their spouse has died. They have to renegotiate their masculinity in order to deal with what life is bringing their way.

>We need to better understand how older men adapt to their stressors—high suicide rates, emotions they stifle, avoiding the doctor—to hopefully help them build better lives in older age."

>actors aged 35-50 chosen to represent warriors on film look manlier than 20yo boy toy pop artists
omg where have our samurais gone type F if u want masculinity 2 survive

>"Who you are in the past is embedded in you. Men have trouble dealing with older age because they've followed a masculinity script that left little room for them to negotiate unavoidable problems.
how has that anything to do with masculinity? being afraid of aging is one of the oldest human fears and it's universal to both men and women. look how women cling to their youthful beauty, how they like to lie about their age. making remarks about their age(ing) is even a social taboo

> similar to sports?
It is true it's similar to competitive sports. The difference is, that a country that is competitive with other nations, is competitive militarily,scientifically,for glory and resources. Millions of lives are impacted for the good. Where as sports, it's just entertainment and only benefits individuals who compete in them. It's natural for example that the Chinese, Russian, and Americans want to subjugate other groups. As they compete with each other, it increases each others ability. So in conclusion the reason Japanese men are so docile, is because they lost their spiritual objective to make their nation superior to others. It is imperative for them to remove American occupation and remilitarize to become who they once were.

>How can we as individuals go against this? This is a global phenomenon that NEEDS addressing.
We shouldn't and no it doesn't. Evolving both biologically and culturally/mentaly is totally natural and normal and does not require intervention.

Masculinity as a whole has been changing for the past few decades and what it "means to be a man" and also been challenged by radical ideals that believe we dont need the same sense of masculinity as olden days. Altho we will see that while the world has this shift towards more feminity that people will begin to admire and seek out more dominance and hyper masculine men.

>people lose sight of whats important during peaceful times

what the fuck are you on about? People still have families, sense of community, and are well mannered. Unless you are living in the ghetto or some shit then i understand.

>not being in war is jewish

nice try goy

>old widowers are crying too secretly
Yep, that's what feminism is about

>become what they once were
you mean the psychopathic tendencies to take over the whole world? nobody wants that you moron. Not even Japan

>masculinity has been changing
No, males have been changing

>Because these fantasies are basically porn for guys insecure about their masculinity.
fukken saved

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>the difference is

are you forgetting about national sports, the scientific community, and the need to keep relations among other countries for resources? Why are you trying to promote the need to hoard everything?

there are also people that just dont give a shit since they lead normal lives with a gf and have other things more important to worry about than the "worldwide need" to increase masculinity. But if you want to involve yourself in such a pointless task, go ahead

Feminism absolutely tries to tackle those kinds of masculinity issues though. It's not even debatable that men are actively discouraged from showing emotion. Hell, it's why so many veterans struggle with PTSD and emotional issues, because they're conditioned to bottle that shit up and just deal with it.

lefite, lefite. get away.

shill somewhere else or shekelstein won't pay!

I love how people love to pick fat white nationalist and present them as if they represent whole group. They are minority, every group has its own fat neckbeards....

You tried.

>Feminism absolutely tries to tackle those kinds of masculinity issues though
that sentence in itself is absolutely absurd

You really don't understand feminism if you think that's absurd.

Extremely high cortisol levels.

haha sure got'em fellow pede

>redness absolutely tries to tackle those kinds of blueness issues though
masculinity and femininity are simply two different roles, you don't fix one with the other.
that's like saying your going to fix water with air. it has nothing to to with one another

Why does every autist who circlejerks in threads like this think they are the wests last bastion of masculinity?

Sounds badass but ultimately a word salad that requires multiple pauses to think about. Maybe I'd appreciate it more in text form.

Again, you have a fundamental misunderstanding of feminism, it isn't only concerned with femininity, it's also concerned with certain masculine behaviors deemed harmful.
There's no "male" version of this tackling masculinity issues, it's just another form of feminism.

>onions
I hate whatever faggot instituted this so fucking much

Tru. Ain't any motivator greater than the threat of your neighbor killing you, stealing your stuff, and raping your wife and daughters.

feminism cares as much about fixing men's problems as mgtow cares about fixing women's problem.
saying women should stop being thots (a behavior deemed harmful) and embrace a traditional lifestyle is roughly the equivalent to feminism trying to "fix" "toxic masculinity"

>bad childhood
>autism/aspergers
>no self-awareness
>social isolation
>no friends

choose 3 and you have the average Jow Forumsizen

>complaining about weak men on Jow Forums
>on Jow Forums
>which has 5 different feels thread ongoing 24/7 people racing who can be more miserable and feel sorry for himself the most
>obsess over a single feature like a teenager girl
>literally cant have an argument without autistically sperging out
>half the threads are just people complaining about how some random internet dude isnt the perfect father figure for them
>only board ITT that actually tolerates the lookism fags

lmao, this is probably the MOST unmasculine board, a bunch of insufferable retards with aspergers who pick weights up and down

Newfags like the OP can't into wordfilters (S*O*Y filters to 'onions')

Hey man some of us train for actual sports and DGAF what we look like only how we perform. I agree the rest are all faggots with their gay-ass 'aesthetics' bullshit, wish they were all b&

Those lacking in masculinity are precisely those who need to get a clear view of it. If most talking about it are fat neckbeards things are as they should be. That's how you change: you recognize an ideal outside and above you and strive to meet it. Precisely the opposite of feminism, where the spinster proclaims "I AM THE TRUTH! I AM THE STANDARD!"

The fundamental error people ITT keep making is to assume that different men make different masculinities. That is not so. Men change, masculinity is the standard they meet or don't. And masculinity is simply power. Its signs are self-possession, coldness, calm, objectivity, laconism, detachment, mastery. It has nothing to do with muh-baby-toys like undergraduates think.

Sometimes men are men. Sometimes men are s 0 y. Sometimes two different classes will average 85 and 95 on the same test. Those aren't different meanings of success, they're different degrees of it.

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No, you just cherrypicked a bunch of stuff you think is inherently masculine but are actually arbitrary behaviors that other people before you have designated "manly". There's absolutely different types of masculinity in different types of cultures, and denying that is essentially just denying reality.
Masculinity is not a universal law that has remain unchanged over the centuries. It's a fluid concept that has evolved and regressed and progressed into many different forms over the course of history.

some parts changed over time but the core idea (bravery, strength, self improvement etc.) has remained the same over millennia in the west, the east and the lands in between.
you could say it's like fashion. styles come and go but the general concept of wearing clothes has remained to this day.