Young men have record low levels of testosterone

Just gonna make up some bro science and say that increased body fat increases aromatization, thus converting more testosterone into both estrogen AND DHT.

Just a guess.

>doesn't know the difference between a mature hairline and balding

>This didn't happen a century ago.

Proof?

damn yeah I mean nothings set in stone, can I ask if you get waxy skin or pee more than other people?

his hair looks fine bruh

prob not far from the truth

Then why did my shit still get fucked up?

greater concentrations of 5 alpha reductase which convert testosterone to DHT at a greater rate than normal. also male pattern baldness is a complex disorder with multiple underlying mechanisms.

nope

Why the fuck do you think people didn't have receding hairlines 50 years ago lmfao. They definitely did.

The only reason you think men were big hairy and handsome 50 years ago is because you go on Reddit and see "omg guys look at my sexy grandpa, circa. 1964"

Here's the secret: you only see the SEXY people from 1964. No one goes on the internet to share pictures of their ugly ass grandparents. Movies in the 1960's didn't have ugly people in them, just like ours don't.

We have exactly as many low-T balding incels as we've always had. You just have the luxury of not needing to see the ones from several decades ago.

i got fat and lost a shit load of hair, my T was low as fuck too. gotten mostly back into shape now but i think i've permanently fucked my hair rip

mfw damn thats weird thanks man this prompted me to do even more digging lol

>This didn't happen a century ago.
Is this fucking bait?

>This didn't happen a century ago
Yes it did. I'm pretty sure it was even worse a century ago because air and food quality was so much shittier in urban areas

People balding is 98% of the time because of genetics. Search it up. Flex Lewis takes grams of gear and still has a full head of hair even though he has most likely 10-30x times the amount of DHT any balding person will ever have. Nothing you can do. Cope.

What about fat women then? They have high estrogen and low test, shluldn't they also be losing hair at a record rate? It's mostly genetic.

Our food got worse. You get arround 20% less vitamin intake because of new hybrid sorts maximizing fast growth = less time to accumulate and soil degredation. In addition our water and food is tainted by hormons cause you can't filter it out completly. The only progress is against disease.

Air Quality is a tossup. Industrilisation was horrible. Mining work was horrible. But it depends heavily where you are because plenty places where outside of that. And today we have isues from cars and pesticides from farming fields blowing into nearby towns affecting lungs to the point of statistically singificantly raising cancer rates.

TDLR: overall we didn't improve.

If DHT was the sole perpetrator, then why does also Roelly Winklaar, one of the biggest roid junkies there are, have better hairlines than the natty-kings here? Do you know the amount of DHT conversion that happens to his body? DHT WILL ONLY cause balding if you, from your genetics suffer from Male Pattern Baldness.

My hair is permafucked.

Only saving grace is able to grow a thick beard, I'll shave my head at some point and switch it with a beard.

I got the diagnosis and also a partial solution rite here fagget

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>non-deep voice
Wait what? Higher test --> higher voice? Sauce?

There are plenty of photographs with average people from those time periods.

If you can walk outside and look at the average male and still say that nothing has changed you are either delusional, trolling, or insidiously putting false information out there.

Exactly. Of course people have balded all throughout history but you have to be delusional if you don't notice an extreme hike in how often and how early it happens these days.

Like 9/10 21 year olds look like now.

DHT is sometimes produced due to high est levels.

Higher test --> Lower voice... obviously...

This is literally the first picture that came up when I googled "1950 group photo." Notice anything special about lots of these guys?

I don't know why you're acting like you went to fucking highschool in 1943 or something. People have always gone bald, and it's always started around 17-25. This is a tired trope in movies going back literally decades. If you look at pictures of Frank Senatra and conclude that everyone in 1962 had a gorgeous, full head of hair then you're a fucking dunce and you need your head examined.

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You're fucking deluded if you think that men have worse hair today than back then.
Go look at pictures of random dudes on the street and there are plenty of guys with receding hairlines.
Also, no, 9/10 dudes at 21 don't have that hairline, that's absurd.

Follow up: if it seems like men predisposed to balding are balding *earlier*, it's probably because they've matured faster as a result of better nutrition early on.

>tfw surrounded by balding guys with beards (stereotypical basedboy look), high-pitched voices and skinnyfat gyno bodies
>tfw hairless smoothskin with deep voice and high muscle mass
it is a mystery

DHT is upregulated when testosterone is low or estrogen is high. Hairiness, especially in men younger than ~30 is suboptimal and they are almost assuredly poor athletes with beta personalities.

That's why I'm on both test and fin

Support your claim with something other than anecdotal hearsay or fuck off.