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Any of y'all ever do competitive running along with lifting?
Is it doable or am I never going to break 20 min 5K?
I asked a day or two ago, but I got no responses and want to ask again:
I've heard some people talk about using the smallest doses you possibly can while still making progress, with the premise being that in the long run you'd need less gear at a higher level. For example, Jordan Peters talked in one video about starting with maybe 300mg of test, then working your way up to 400, 500, 600, etc. as you need more, then adding other compounds in the same way.
I think this concept extends to not using gear before you're well along in your training career (i.e. not before you "need" it). Obviously, very few people follow that rule.
What are your thoughts, /fraud/?
There's a guy who runs ultramarathons and still squats 700lb or something crazy like that. Alex Viada. He wrote a book about training for multiple sports that might be interesting to you.
1st for nodding out on opis and benzos while listening to lil peep
>I asked a day or two ago, but I got no responses and want to ask again:
>I've heard some people talk about using the smallest doses you possibly can while still making progress, with the premise being that in the long run you'd need less gear at a higher level. For example, Jordan Peters talked in one video about starting with maybe 300mg of test, then working your way up to 400, 500, 600, etc. as you need more, then adding other compounds in the same way.
>I think this concept extends to not using gear before you're well along in your training career (i.e. not before you "need" it). Obviously, very few people follow that rule.
As for staying natty longer, thats retarded. You're only young once.
There might be some value to starting at low doses and moving up as you need it though.
Is it true taller guys need higher doses to fill out?
If you want to be a massive faggot listen to young pinch. He's like twice as autistic.
I'd it true bigger guys need to drink more alcohol to get drunk?
Yes?
Hey /fraud/, how do I get absolutely fucking massive? What is my 5 year road map?
On point diet, good training, smart bnc schedule, sleep.
In that order, never slip.
>smart bnc schedule
care to elaborate? I thought blast and cruise was just something you did on test. to get freaky huge I thought you needed to introduce other compounds
Blast and cruise simply implies switching between compounds used.
A blast typically involves higher doses of test and can be combined with other compounds. Going back into cruise just means dropping down to lower test levels and ussually dropping other compounds to get your health markers back in check for the next blast.
get your training and diet in check, find a compound that you respond to and can manage the sides tjem increase the dose every blast thats the road im on atleast
Whats the best stack if I want to win mr olympia? Im 5'10 180 btw
So logically would a bigger guy need higher doses of test to get huge?
youd probably need an insane amount, pic was on 7g test 10iu hgh ed and 100mg anadrol ed,
A bigger guy is going to need to actually build way more muscle mass and be way stronger to look proportionally as big as a smaller guy
If higher doses of test actually build significantly more muscle than yes.
Who is this handsome dwarf?
when you forget to shit before the selfie
I started my first blast in mid february and I'm ending it in early june.
I plan to cycle off and blast again in late January 2019. Is this acceptable compared to cruising? I am concerned that if I cruised then I would be shutdown for more than a year and it would be difficult to come off
all you niggas fucking around with different compounds for what? just increase the dose of test. test is best and it's all you need
Who is this? Goals
1g of test sides are ass. Much easier to do 600test 400 deca.
swiper heres a discussion with him
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lmao man
Gross
>There might be some value to starting at low doses and moving up as you need it though.
Yeah, I've been thinking about this a lot lately, it's why I asked.
I've been watching the Reddit threads, with a bunch of people taking what I think are big doses (for their weight, of course). There are some people there who are taking a half gram or a gram of tren on top of test and orals when they only weigh 180 or 200 lb. What would they need to really get big and weigh 250 or 275? Or 300? What about over 300? Fuck, I've seen a couple people starting to use HGH and slin before they've really filled out their frames.
I wonder how far I can get with that basic cycle of 500mg test. Can I just ride that out for a series of cycles and end up taking similar doses to those guys while weighing something more like 250 instead of 200? Or are they just using way more gear than they need, and will be able to ride that out for several more cycles and get much bigger?
As an example, look at the guy I mentioned, Jordan Peters. He's planning to be about 245 on stage, and he's taking about 700mg of test, mast, and tren in his prep. Those aren't anything crazy like .
The whole thing has been pretzeling my brain.
I was on 1g of tren around what must have been 70kg worth of bodyweight.
It was absolutely worthless in terms of gains compared to a much lower dose.
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thoughts?
Exactly the situation I'm thinking about. At your weight, do you think you would even have had diminished results from running much simpler, smaller cycles?
I think sticking to a simple test cycle with some minor tren would yield the exact same results. (500mg test 200mg tren vs. 500mg test 1g tren).
I still feel like I run way too much, I manage to gain muscle on cruises (200-250mg) at a consistent rate.
Adding more helps but not alot and I hit ceilings hard at higher doses.
Maybe in the future I need more, but I'm convinced that even on copious amounts of gear you still can only put on so much.
7g of test?
Fuck off what a waste.
Bet you were using generic GH that’s why you’re so watery
No slin? Bollocks
guys a literal retard desperate for money
clickbait title so he can scrape up some views its pretty obvious lmao injecting quads is fine if you arent a tard
>7g
sure thing buddy
how easy is it to make meth? I have access to pure ephedrine in powder form...
Have you seen what meth dealers look like? Can’t be too hard.
>tfw can't run or swim properly because of shoulder
>tfw no anzurem gf
>anzurem
No clue what that is, but I'm sure it's great.
What's up with your shoulder?
Damn I'm good
Anyone here have or used to have an instragram account centered around fitness?
Seems even after your first cycle you can get normies drooling over you on Instagram.
Then you can just shill random fitness products for easy side income.
Is it worth it?
cheap steak 0 marbling
Worth what, your time?
It's mostly about the free products nowadays. You don't get that much cash as a casual IG influencer.
>Oral-only cycles are stupid, so stop considering it.
Let me run my var in peace, faggot
female?
Ive made a discord to discuss general section as well as subject based discussions, feel free to join discord.gg/e8VyGNF. The shit going on here is a clusterfuck of info but there we've got everything from newfag tutorials and threads to sources, compound discussion, trt, bloodwork, newfag advice, and much more. share this link and let'd make something constructive out of this subject. Obv im not trying to take this thread away from Jow Forums but for the more serious who want to sort want to wait for 2 weeks for a response on some forum let's make this a thing. Ive already set up a list of threads to help each other out. Come check it out. spamming would be appreciated.
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> discord.gg/e8VyGNF
anyone accepted, fags banned
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Yeah. It's not that bad, right? I get guys have to stack it with something else otherwise it's pointless.
It's decent if actual anavar, not winstrol.
Actual var. I'll take decent.
What are some good stacks for just feeling well/recovering fast?
I'm on Test/tren and I just feel whatever all the time and sore.
Food.
blast and cruise test, deca, tren, GH, and insulin for 5 years
No.
There has to be a stack that is optimized for recovery/endurance. What kind of things do athletes take?
>There has to be a stack that is optimized for recovery/endurance. What kind of things do athletes take?
GH/peptides/certain Sarms will enhance recovery of things like tendons and connective tissue. There is nothing really specialised for recovery in the manner you're thinking of, if you're running Tren you're a bodybuilder and you need to understand that all AAS will help with recovery. You need to tweak your diet if you're sore all the time while running tren.
Shit like EPO and exotics exist for endurance sports but we don't deal with much of that in bodybuilding. EQ and drugs that enhance red blood cell count might be of use, but you're trading that for other side effects.
Those are two different things. Deca is popular for recovery, so is ostarine which is a SARM.
>tren and deca give me gyno even when taking caber and letro
Sucks being a genelet
I was thinking of looking into BPC-157. Most of my pain is shit that I think was latent from before blasting, like tennis elbow and minor back stiffness.
What could I do differently diet wise?
More food.
More fats specifically.
Up the fats, especially the Omega 3's. More protein can also help, looking towards fatty fish and things like grass-fed beef will help with the omega 3 intake.
If you had pain before blasting, you need to get your joints in order as collagen synthesis is altered when on AAS (some for the good, some not)
I wish grass fed beef wasn't insanely expensive near me ;_;
Here's to hoping fish oil gels aren't a complete scam
I think I might have low test. I just want normal test. Would clomid help me get to normal levels like it helps people who need pct?
Okay so I made an account on this website for people to meet up and cuddle because I thought it’d be /comfy/ no sex or anything and horry shit there are some legit QTs on there who’ve messaged me. I know y’all probably think it’s beta but idgaf, I’ve got Tinder for fucking.
>tfw earth fare has grassfed ground round from Australia for 3.99/lb on the regular and it’s like 90/10.
Get a decent brand of fish oil and you're fine.
It's worth springing for the extra on food. I never gave a fuck about it before and made progress, but since I've slacked off training and focused on diet I've really seen some benefits to spending that little bit more on the better alternatives.
That said, there is absolutely nothing wrong with buying the cheaper stuff.
>bulletproof coffee
What's everyones' thoughts? I blended some butter and turmeric with my coffee yesterday and it was actually really nice.
>> discord.gg/e8VyGNF
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Why steroids are cheaper than suplements
I respect that user. If you can get a girl into bed to cuddle, it'll probably end up in sex anyways. Either way, sounds fun.
Marketing and advertising.
I spend a lot on food. I agree that it's worth it to Shell out the few extra dollars to get higher quality. In my area grass fed is a huge jump in price and the one thing I just can't splurge for. Think 7-10$ per lb. For solid cuts of regular beef then 20$+ for grass fed. The restaurants must be buying it all up or something.
Damn i wish... I'm pretty sure the US actually imports meat from down under
If you have low test you should just get TRT from an actual doctor.
>Tinder for cuddling
What's it called?
>Butter coffee
Idea is sound, inducing ketosis with oils and whatnot. Wouldn't buy the branded stuff though.
>What’s it called?
cuddlecomfort
>Damn I wish
Aren’t you in FL? They have a couple of locations there. Idk if they carry the Aussie beef there though.
>We have more than 1,200 professional cudders covering all 50 states.
Wonder if I could become a professional cuddler desu
>cuddlecomfort
damn this is perfect. girls are dumb
This is anzurem.
Dislocated it. Permanently fuckt.
how
Anyone else make great progress but still not satisfied because you’re constantly comparing yourself to people who look better?
Is this the start of body dysmorphia?
then you arent living the life you want to live yet, isnt that why youre doing this?
Pretty much, yeah. The only person you need to compare yourself to is yourself from the past.
There's nothing really wrong with setting new goals after old goals are reached. You just have to make sure you're giving yourself credit for reaching the old goals.
Yeah you guys are right. The problem is I feel good then instantly start to feel like shit and I’ve got the feeling like it’s never good enough. I just need to give myself credit and stop worrying about everyone else.
This must be how masT feels 24/7.
Something I learned was to focus on improvement, but take the little victories, otherwise you get burnt out on life incredibly quickly. Everyone improves at their own pace, and that's something you need to focus on and remember.
You have to reward yourself with weekends at the beach and vacations. What's the point of looking good if you don't get to show it off :^)
Pinned tren tonight in the left quad.
Felt a pinch. Thought nothing of it, happens time to time. Leave pin in for 30 seconds. Pull out. Bleed dark blood like a pussy on the period.
I used the z track method and didn't see any oil in the blood. My injection is still good, right guys?
is your bloat supposed to fluctuate throughout the day?
Yes. It depends on your diet and sodium intake.
so pissed /fraud/
turbomanlet stepdad (5'4 ex failed jockey) and his little man syndrome is flat out refusing to let my younger brother go and train with his friends, because 'you should just let your body grow naturally'
i make the point of every kid in highschool who plays sport, also trains at the gym.. every kid you see on the rugby field is in the gym, every skinnyfat dweeb you see in the supermarket has 'let their body grow naturally'
he then yells over everyone in his whiney little jockey voice and says it's the end of topic
i cant stand up for my brother because it ends up with little man insisting he is right and taking it out on my brother when i leave
dad and i have been trying so hard to get him into training, but we're not always there
how do i go about this?
thanks is it more severe on higher test?
Yeah, especially if you're using TestE.
Mods. Underage b8.
Is it possible that he's afraid your brother's growth will be stunted like his?
brother is already taller than him, the moment he was taller (like 12/13) a switch went off and he full on became abusive, he's 16 now
Not entirely sure. Poor form most likely. But on that same shoulder I have a tendon that is too tight anyway and grinds at the cartilage which caused me pain to run and swim before I dislocated it. I'll have to get the tendon cut eventually like my Mum had to but not until I'm in my 30's most likely.
Yeah it's fine. I've had dark blood before. No idea what it means though.
Just beat up your stepdad, it can't be that hard to overpower a 5'4" man who probably has a tiny frame if he attempted to be a jockey? Or ask him to explain what "grow naturally" means and just drill him down until he cries.
nyan
thanks again ill keep an eye on my diet now
Also, make sure you're taking an AI. Prevents conversion of test to est, which causes bloat.
dont want to know what would happen to my brother if he did that, it's become normal now in his drunken ramblings too talk about how much he wants to bash him, he's even threatened to kill him a couple of times, sad thing is my mum just deals with it
Just fucking drop kick the cunt and have your brother stay with you or your bio dad until shit cool downs thereafter.
Whatever you do don’t listen to crusader’s advice he has daddy issues and hates himself for never standing up to his father who beat the piss out of him for being a queer.
once he's done school i've told him he's moving, but right now he's got a job, friends, senior years, would be too much for him
sir, this is /fraud/ not Jow Forums
/fraud/ is /r9k on steroids
haha get it
kys
Mate, if my dad was short enough I could pat him on the dead I would've taken him. But my Dad was 6'2, weighed 105kg and went to gym 3-4 times a week. I was at the time I got kicked out of home 5'11 and 50kg.
There was no point in fighting less I wanted to get the shit beat out of me more.