/discipline

>Like I said, I force myself for the people that matter.

What does this mean?

Finally, a decent thread.

Cold showers - go for 5+ mins, during your time constantly think how easy it would be to end all discomfort by stepping out of the shower, but you won't do that, because you decided to.

at least 1 hour long meditation sessions, nothing fancy just focus on your breath. Resist impulse to look at the watch. Get over restlessness and try to move as little as possible.

In my situation, I aim to be strong enough mentally and physically for the people that matter in my life meaning I can bear the weight of taking care of someone else if the need arises.
It's stupid and so am I but it's the perfect motivator for me.

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I forced myself to go to the gym and not eat junk food for the first few weeks. Then once I got used to it I just realized that the little pleasure I'd gain from eating some fast food or skipping a workout would be insignificant and fleeting compared to the pleasure I'd gain from maintaining my clean diet and lifting routine.
One time a few months into my first real attempt at weight loss I went to the movies and bought a small box of reese's pieces as a snack because it was always one of my favorite candies. I ate it, realized I was still extremely hungry, and looked at the nutritional info to see how much I had just eaten. Could not fucking believe that something so calorie dense had done absolutely nothing for my hunger. After that day it was always easy to stay away from shit food, it just became clear that it was a huge waste of money and all the time I had already invested in my diet for practically no reward.

Idk man, the weirdest things can give you the strength you need. My personal story:

I got just a shit ton of willpower 6 months ago. Was on a family vacation with dad and sis. Spent time with family friends, some my age, who already have wives and kids. Mean while I'm a 27 year old kissless virgin. Also when there, my sis and dad took me to a strip club (first time) and my dad gave me 20 to get a dance. First time really feeling a women, knew I must have more.

Got back home, quit soda, junk food, only buy chicken breasts, nuts, fruits and veggies at store, strength train 5x a week. Rarely if ever play vidya now, picked up reading non fiction to impress women with knowledge.

I'm close to Chad status i feel, I look in the mirror everyday and feel better every time because of the progress I've made. Went from 260 to 195 in those 6 months. Haven't gained much muscle, but I'm at a big calorie deficit so don't expect to. Once I lose my last bit of excess belly fat, I will stark a bulk and begin take my final form.

Sorry for the essay.

>listening to your "inner voices"
>not telling your "inner voices" what to do
>being this much of a cuck that you let you cuck you

My inner voices tell me to kill and eat people, should I listen to them?????

Why are cold showers good? Is it a way to build mental discipline?

You know this makes a lot of sense for me, I have 4 kids so I get it..

What is your calorie and macro breakdown?

>Why are cold showers good? Is it a way to build mental discipline?
It's discomfortable situation, which you can end very quickly. This means you will need to fight against your pleasure seeking part.

Jow Forums + /lit/ = ultimate chadboi
>You know this makes a lot of sense for me, I have 4 kids so I get it.
It's a bittersweet feeling isn't it user. I bet you make an amazing pops.

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learn to tell yourself no, it's that simple.

>>You know this makes a lot of sense for me, I have 4 kids so I get it.
>It's a bittersweet feeling isn't it user. I bet you make an amazing pops.

Shit...you just hit me in the feels.

It is bittersweet...I see how fat I am and realize that if I continue down this path I will die in 10-15 years from a heart attack.

...this is why I need to lift.

fasting ,lifting, cold showers, no fap, getting things done that i need to get done right away

>Shit...you just hit me in the feels.

It is bittersweet...I see how fat I am and realize that if I continue down this path I will die in 10-15 years from a heart attack. ...this is why I need to lift.
I'm not trying to hugbox or anything but you'll make it. Set your goals and accomplish them through blood, sweat, and tears.
Use your feels as a motivator, sooner or later it'll turn into a habit and then a lifestyle.
Most importantly be the man you want to be...

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Do not concern yourself with the why. Only the how.

It's just one of those perfect albums you can listen to anytime. Sober or high, happy or sad, it's perfect.

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Sometimes if I fuck up one thing, let's say I eat like shit I fuck up everything..I watch porn, eat desert, skip the gym, play video games.

Any way to overcome my all of nothing attitude?

>I'm not trying to hugbox or anything but you'll make it. Set your goals and accomplish them through blood, sweat, and tears.
>Use your feels as a motivator, sooner or later it'll turn into a habit and then a lifestyle.
>Most importantly be the man you want to be...

Time to rise...thanks hugbox friend

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>about to eat chcolate
>inside brain
>are you a pussy
>no
>put choclate away
>going for a pr
>are you a pussy
>no
>hit pr
works every time

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> relevant

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Everyone knows me as the guy who has motivation and dedication. The will to upkeep that reputation is what keeps me going oddly enough.

What got you started though?

How did you initially got the reputation to begin with?

My eyes

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Lost discipline my brothers in suffering. I've been eating light today due to being on a suicide cutting regime, only a few bananas and a coffee. Got home, went to gym, workout, got out of gym and went rope jumping on the river side, then rest in the sun.
As I ended the entire workout I got an INSANE animal hunger, went to KFC and ordered 5 chicken strips with fries and soda.

How fucking of an idiot I am? How do I recover from this? I'm omw home now, anything I could do? I feel weak and fat.

I have learned through pain that if you fuck up your diet there is no point to try to eat less further down the day, but you can eat cleaner...skipping meals is a sure way to fuckup land

Literally all genetics and childhood upbringing. If you're not disciplined by the time you're ~10 you're never going to be.

Yeah, that's very fucking positive. Thanks man.

So I am guessing you were an asshole by the time you turned 10?

this is bullshit, epigenetics mang

I was a mess out of high school. Went into uni, dropped out first year, no job, no money, was a total deadshit. Started lifting a bit, but still no real discipline. Landed an apprenticeship with a bricklayer, things changed fast. I have OCD, so i can't just get out of bed and walk out the door like a regular person, i have a whole bunch of rituals to complete. To get to work by 6:30 i had to get up at 3:30 AM every day, then cycle to work to get abused by crackheads. It's hard to get across what brickie's labouring is like. I worked with an ex-royal marine who told me that brickie's labouring here in Australia was harder than anything he ever had to do in the military. I'd say that's probably an accurate assessment. Pushing barrows of cement and wheeling packs of bricks through soft sand, setting up scaff, loading bricks up onto said scaff, in 40 degree plus weather, is a totally fucked job. I never finished the apprenticeship, just kept labouring for a bunch of other brickies, moved into plastering eventually, same deal. 5 years of getting up at 3:30, running on less than 4 hours sleep most days because of sleep problems, and doing this work, it does something to your head. It flicks a switch. I met someone who convinced me to go back to uni, and it's the easiest thing i've ever done. High distinction average and have been able to maintain a rigorous exercise regime. If you want to improve self-discipline, work in construction for a bit maybe. It worked for me, but it fucks with your head.

just dont be a pussy and do what you set out to do

dont tell people youre gonna do it like a fat teenage girl either because that tricks your brain into being proud of it before youve done anything

If you want to do something, say go to the gym - plan on going. Don't think "I need" or "I want". Just think about what time you'll make it there and shit. Act as if you need to go or you'll die or something.

Tbh guys there's no real trick or anything. It's something you just have to DO and keep doing it. Maybe reward yourself with something for going to the gym on time for a few days/that week.

That’s sick man, congrats for going back to school

>Spent time with family friends, some my age, who already have wives and kids
I definitely feel this. I'm only 20, but both of my cousins are already married and one of them is having a kid. Most of my friends have girlfriends and I feel like I'm getting left behind. Started lifting and doing the discipline thing, but I still can't bring myself to ask a girl out. What if she says no? What if it makes things weird? At this rate I feel like I'm getting to forever alone territory. I want kids. What if I'm too much of a pussy to ever ask a girl out?

The only thing you have to realize is that whether you want to do something or not (in a emotional way) does not matter whatsoever.

Now, you may read this simple sentence and agree with it on a surface level. It's another thing entirely to fully believe this on a fundemental level.

I'm sure you have multiple things in the back of your mind that you tell yourself you'll start once the time is right. There's never a "right" time to do anything. You're just playing tricks on yourself.

>The only thing you have to realize is that whether you want to do something or not (in a emotional way) does not matter whatsoever

I will sound naive by saying this but I have to ask...doesn't that though lead to an unhappy existence?

Like if you keep doing things you hate for something that you eventually want..doesn't that kind of suck? Like I said I feel naive for asking but still

I have been blessed with willpower, so discipline just comes naturally to me, as long as I really want to achieve something.
Quit smoking? Fucking easy.
Quit booze? Did it.
Work out 5 times a week? Learned to love it.
Completely accurate and balanced diet? Wouldn't have it any other way.
Currently trying my hand (lol) at nofap, which has proven challenging but I am doing it without relapses. I know it's scientifically bullshit, but I find it to be a good exercise for my resolve.
The advice I could give is, to learn to revel in the challenge, learn to enjoy exerting your willpower.
I believe anyone can do it, once they realize that all they have to do is "just do it".

that second post

fuck it man, Im posting sophia diamond to meet at the kebab shop. need to tell her I love her.

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Not him, but most of life is doing things you don't really want to do, that's just how it is.
It makes the good parts more enjoyable and fulfilling.
You can either learn to deal with it, or you can try living a life of hedonism, which I don't believe has ever led anyone to lasting happiness, on the contrary.

No. It's about you not wanting something in the moment because of emotional reasons. Maybe you're lazy. Maybe it's scary to go outside. Whatever.

At the same time, on a much deeper level, you really want to do this thing because you know it's the right thing (or your purpose, or whatever you want to call it) to do. It's what the best version of yourself would do. I'm sure you have a list of things like that in the back of your mind. I know I do.

Pursuing this thing, even if you don't want to right now (this'll probably change over time) will be worth it on a much deeper level. You'll get fulfillment out of it. Fuck momentarily happiness. Happiness is such a overrated concept. It's just a byproduct of living a fulfilled life, but even then, it comes and goes with all the ups and downs that life will throw at you. Fulfillment will ALWAYS be there.

To answer your question then: Yes, it will lead to an unhappy existence, a happy existence, and everything in between, but at the foundation of it all you'll have fulfillment. Real confidence in yourself because you achieved something that you initially had a huge struggle with.

Hope that makes sense.

I seem to have more issues staying disciplined in terms of diet during the uni semester. Any advice on managing time for workouts/staving off stress eating? in exchange have some ruffins

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I bought a whiteboard that I keep in my bedroom, positioned so that the second I get out of bed, it's right in front of me. On it is a list of things that I must do in order to make it.

The list is divided into two sides: fundamentals and improvements. The fundamentals are things that need to be done every day for basic health and hygiene. Three meals, bath/shower, flossing my teeth, bed by 3 AM, etc. Improvements are things that are negotiable because they're much more time-consuming and involved, like lifting weights, running, studying Latin, reading literature, etc.

On a good day, I do all of them and go to bed content that I am going to make it.

On a bad day, I only do some of them and go to bed driven to make it tomorrow.

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Good idea, think I'm gunna steal it

Discipline is all about routine, the more routines the more discipline

I look at my old fatty photos

To add: "the no pain no gain" mantra is really true for ALL CHANGE in life, not just for building muscle.

Your brain PHYSICALLY has to change in order for you to change your behavior. It will be hard. Your brain will resist every chance it gets. You're changing who you are. It's a scary process. But the harder the struggle, the greater the change.

You have to be comfortable with the struggle. You have to accept that it will be hard and that you'll probably hit rock bottom before you see any improvements.

This is why all these self improvement threads always recommends a healthy diet, working out, meditating etc. These are all tools to help you with the struggle.

No pain, no gain.

If you had been blessed with willpower you would have never started smoking.

Bumping a worthy thread.

Fuck those "manlet" or any other useless thread here on Jow Forums. This one should help everyone who comes here.

Good for you man.

You're an idiot if you think that.
We have all been 16 and stupid once, you still may have that ahead of you by the sounds of it.

I don't ignore that voice, I actively tell that voice that he's a fucking fag, and that he can suck my cock. That voice is the weakest, worst, most despicable version of you. Let that guy fucking have it. Tell him to stuff his cookie, his laziness, and his general outright faggotry up his ass. What would you say if you saw that guy, the worst version of you, in front of you? Learn to hate him, learn to do everything in your power to kill that guy. And next time he shows up, punch him in the fucking mouth.
That voice never leaves you, you have to fight it with everything you have

This method does work wonders. Everytime I want to break my discipline, my brain goes "Stop being such a fucking bitch" and I do what I need to.

A lot of you guys put lifting as a way to build discipline. While you should obviously be lifting, I don't think it builds discipline that much just for the fact that a lot of us ENJOY lifting. Especially heavy low rep stuff, there's not that much pain associated with it, and if there is, we enjoy it. Discipline requires going OUTSIDE of your comfort zone, and if your comfort zone has expanded to include your workout, guess what that means. Workout outside of your comfort zone. Do the painful exercises. I personally hate ab work, but I do it anyway because I hate it. I hate squatting, but last year I did a 6 week 20 rep squat program. If you guys have never done 20 rep squats, you should. It's incredibly painful, and I hated it and cursed it every time I stepped into the gym, but I did it anyways. Most of us focus on our strengths and what's fun for us. I'm as guilty of this as the next guy. You need to do the workouts that suck if you enjoy your workout too much.
Also cold showers + nofap

By comparing myself to where I was last week

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Discipline

Chocolate is good for you retard. Just don't buy jewish mind control chocolate.

What was your routine?

Thanks user. This really helped me.

There are no tricks.
>You have to do a thing.
>You do the thing.
>???
>Discipline

>dont tell people youre gonna do it like a fat teenage girl either because that tricks your brain into being proud of it before youve done anything

how in the fuck do i get rid of this shit

lifting helped me, I had no discipline for years and was wasting time, idk if I have adhd or some shit but ever since I started lifting about a month ago, i find it easier to get things done and I feel better.
aside from that you can't build discipline in a short time, you need to try to commit to something and do it every day, but don't make it overwhelming/big/too important, it could be as simple as
>wake up at 7am
>read 10 pages of xyz book
and add more and more, the more small tasks you get done the better you feel about yourself which will help you push through bigger stuff
so start small and get progressively bigger.

checked

I want to be attractive. I want to look in the mirror and be satisfied.

>not bulking on human flesh
never gonna make it

Great, now I'm going to imagine an Asian dad berating me when I fuck up my lifts.

>Makes a change from Arnie shouting at me to "just lift da damned weight NOWWWW"

Yes. If only so that I can read the news and have a chuckle and a cheeky wank.

Sssh. Don't argue with the sneaky jews.

The fact that I have to give up my seat to elderly people on the train keeps me disciplined. They never fucking exercised so their weak and frail bodies can't handle standing on the train. I don't want to be that annoying old cunt.

bump

Got FB pics of the girl im crushing on. Take a look at them when demotivated and head to the gym. Wish she was my wife.

nice pseudo science, you just suck at discipline.

Bullshit

How do you gain discipline and confidence without being arrogant?

i have a discipline daddy

All millennials understand is “tips and trips” and “top 10 reasons to...”

There is a reason even their parents hate them. Seriously if my child turns out to be like one of these archetypal millennials, I’ll kill myself in the most violent way possible.

These are posts I like, user!
proud of you
we will all make it

Australian construction labour makes a real man out of you

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I have a a HIIT routine I do after every work out. Basically I run on the threadmill for 30minutes at a heart rate of 129-159 (65%-80). Every time I run I increase the speed by .1kph and if I don't beat my most distance ran within those 30 minutes, I don't eat dinner. Numbers don't lie.

>studying latin
>"improve" anything
Enjoy wasting your time with useless shit.

Well the only way to avoid that is by homeschooling and never letting them use the internet
The internet is a brain destroying war machine when accessed 24/7 by children from the age of 5 until death
The ever increasing irony of memes tells them the world is stupid and they shouldnt take anything seriously
Porn is so widespread most 8 year olds are jerking off to super depraved shit that didnt even exist when we were children
Youtubers become their role models and biggest influences instead of their parents
Its all bad

But taking away the internet isnt enough because if you send them to public school where they are surrounded by hundreds of brainwashed gen x pieces of shit then they will be themselves brainwashed by proxy

Your only hope is raising the kids in Mexico where real values still exist in the few small areas that arent overrun by murderers.
Imo you are a retard if you have kids in this age because they are only going to become more of the problem. Its virtually unavoidable.

I use the 5 second rule
youtube.com/watch?v=nI2VQ-ZsNr0

and the knowledge that my body is a servant to the mind - to keep in practice with this, talk about your body in third person from the point of view of your mind being 1st person.

There's no such thing as 'motivation'... if you wait for motivation, you'll never do it.

Second this, you looking good af for 3 months bro, you just on CICO and lifting or any specific routine?

studying any language physically alters your brain

besides, it's a really big challenge in and of itself.

How to reach pic related level of discipline

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It's not stupid user, that's my motivation as well

Cheers mate. Routine changed from month to month as I plateaued but first month was basically 1500 calories (I'm 6'3) + 20 mins of HIIT + Lifting low weight, high reps daily. Next 2 months, reduced calories to 1300 + 15 mins of HIIT + Lifting high weight, low reps.

My macros were always like 40% protein, 30% carbs, 30% fats and I only ever drank water (and 1 coffee a day), none of that soda shit or juice.

Learn a useful language then, dipshit.
I had mandatory Latin classes for 6 fucking years and it was a waste of fucking time.
It is completely useless beyond being mildly interesting.

1. Something is always better than nothing - I'm sometimes swamped by work or study and don't have time to get to the gym, train, get back, shower and still have any time to eat or sleep - this used to make me just give up on training for that day.
Instead, pick up a calisthenics routine, do sprints, work on your handstands, static holds - besides letting you work on skills and strengths you don't usually work on, it's simply fun adding some variety to your training - you will have gained something instead of nothing.
2. Even if you don't need to count calories - count them and record EVERYTHING for at least a month - you will gain the ability to fairly accurately guess caloric content in meals which will give you a much better grasp on how much you should be eating
3. Learn to love yourself - this one is possibly the hardest.
I don't mean love yourself as you are or learn to accept yourself, I mean learn to care for yourself, learn to choose the very best for yourself - understand that inside you are several elements - some dumb, lazy and ugly - others smart, heroic, dominant and beautiful. Always pick the path of your better ideals, don't settle on yourself - you're the only thing you will truly ever own, make it the absolute fucking best possible version.

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