Should I have butter/milk/dairy in my diet?

No it isn't. This is a fitness board.

i don't get the fuss about butter though, you know you can measure like 5g (35 calories and 4,5g saturated fat ) and make food taste infinitely better

>butter is bad for you
What part of "everything in moderation" can you abysmally thick retards not understand?

All fat makes food "taste infinitely better" you fathead

Butter is the shittiest food there is, srsly it's just fucking fat.

You eat this shit too often for it to be moderate.

>shit bread
>butter not even spread just plopped in the middle
>bacon fried to oblivion
>giant glass of what might as well be soda+vit C

I sincerely hope this wasn't you OP.

Or you can not eat fat and avoid the extra estrogen bomb and virtually 0 nutrients besides a pathetic ammount of vitamin A and some saturated and trans fats.

you know ketofags lose weight and gain muscle by living off of alot of saturated fats, why are you so dense. You know you can count your micros too right?

you should eat macro and micronutrients, not certain foods / food groups
eat whatever the fuck you want as long as it fits your requirements

There's nothing special in saturated fats, ketotards lose weight because they lose water weight and possibly fat from the energy deficit they are in considering most people undeat eat calories a lot when they first get into keto.

i know there is nothing special just saying they are not the devil. Deep fried vegetable oils that is objectively bad, but 5g of butter to give chicken some flavour, it's like whatever

it has vitamins A, E, D, and K2

or you could just not eat any butter and avoid the extra estradiol, estradiol sulfate and estrone and progesterone and prolactin.

check the concentrations and then tell me how I know that butter is fucking shit

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Cool projection fuck face
>fat
>estrogen
You're so wrong that I simply want you to die.

estrogen is fat soluble

i hear alot about the estrogens about dairy products but where I live cheese is a big part of our lives so I don't want to believe it makes a huge difference

But i can cut butter no problem, it is not a big part of my diet just a thing to throw in with chicken sometimes when I am not eating other saturated fats

>le fat is le bad for you meme
2004 called it want you faggots back

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This pic looks like a pac-man licking the shit out of a black cock with white balls.

it's not that fat has estrogen, it's just that butter is the shittiest possible dairy product in existance because it is the most concentrated source of dietary estrogens and lactation related hormones in the human diet, it's much much more concentrated than cheese, and not even comparable to milk.

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I consume a high saturated fat diet, from meat eggs and animal fat such as lard. I don't fuck with dairy products at all. I am willing to bet I have better conditioning than anyone in this thread.

too much porn friendo

Maybe you'd have better conditioning without them

>I don't want to believe it makes a huge difference
Unfortunately it seems to be the case, it's of no surprise that the countries with the biggest intakes of cheese per capita are also the ones with slightly above average height, but ever growing issues concerning sperm count and quality.
Netherlands, denmark, sweden, etc.

Better cut all fat from your diet so those birth control pills your chugging dont fuck up your endocrine system then
>dietary estrogens
If you legitimately think that's a real thing your fucked. You will literally never eat enough "dietary estrogen" to make a difference

so to replace dairy protein like yogurt or cottage what would you recommend. More meat and eggs?

>If you legitimately think that's a real thing your fucked.
Why?
> You will literally never eat enough "dietary estrogen" to make a difference
academic.oup.com/humrep/article/28/8/2265/660150

>Total dairy food intake was inversely related to sperm morphology (P-trend = 0.004). This association was mostly driven by intake of full-fat dairy foods.

Goes in line with the findings that high fat dairy products are the most dense sources of mammalian hormones in the human diet.
Seems to be a reason for concern.

get whey isolate, whey has really really low concentrations of hormones, almost mere trace ammounts.
either that or just regular food like meat/eggs/nut butters

False, I tried, Same level of dryness but less muscle pop, probably due to lower hormone production. Conditioning is dictated by activity more so than diet, I feel bad for all the kids I see dieting down hard and cutting saturated fats, natural sugars, and sodium/potassium to get conditioned when in fact all they are doing is going back to DYEL mode.