Not lifting for yourself

>Outcast incels coping their alienation by society with Nietzsche

He would spit on you

>Whatever can be common always has little value
Water, air

>air
>valuable
It's fucking free. Essential, but not very valuable. Water isn't all that common outside the first world.

Will to power, Storm of steel, mein kampf, just to name a few.
>Not mentally lifting books when not lifting weights
>Never EVER going to make it
The book and the sword makes a perfect legionnaire

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Fountainhead is better individualismcore than Atlas Shrugged

Libertarians gtfo off my board

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dramas from the Edo era

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source?

>chronicles

4 years between book 1 & 2, and now it's been 7 years since 2 and 3 is nowhere in sight.
Rothfuss may deign himself the next GRR Martin but he's dreaming (and GRRM gets no slack from me sitting on #6 for 7 fucking years either)

>Something only has value if it can be sold

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A writer simply communicates thoughts, they don't have to be the exemplar of them

Objectivism has its place alongside its leftist, socialist counterparts

fuck off bitch

1488

i like chekhov's short stories they are comfy and sad

Starting Strength

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You best start believing in ghost stories, you’re in one kiddo

Fuck ayn Rand and her cult

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Atlas Shrugged is NOT /fitlit/ approved

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I preferred The Fountainhead over Atlas Shrugged, but then I was still going through some teen agnst when I read it. Now I can't really stand either, such a self-indulgent style of writing and too much rhetorical explanation around simple ideas.

Too many edgy Jow Forums books itt
Pic related is true /fitlit/-core

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You gotta lift for Flex

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Romance of the Three Kingdoms is interesting

have you actually read the whole thing or just meming?
I have an its an ok book. she makes some decent points at times but plety of her writing is just off in fantasy land.
Such a predictable story and such a Mary Sue, i was never surprised by anything in that book.

Fuck off bootlicker

>communism
>anti-facism
brainlet detected

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this is a horribble fucking 1300 pages book written by a fucking speed junkie, fuck off you capitalist swine

>no one has posted "fit: the book" yet

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>Will to power
Out of all of Nietzsche's works you choose the one that was edited by his retard sister? Brainlet detected

Gr8 quote, ignore the dwarves.

Also Z A R A T H U S T R A.

Nietzsche's great because he saves you from the endless right-wing REEEEEing you want to spray at the world. Most people are hopeless and your task is to climb into the spiritual elite. Trying to get all the proles to agree with your earnest arguments is a great way to take your soul to snap city, it can't be done

Kek @ image

yeah

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Makes sense a commie would need test lmao

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If she paid taxes, she had every right to that government assistance

It's fine but Jim Butcher is better. The genere is different and he didn't put the same amount of effort into world building, but he's just a better writer.
So I read the Dresden Files about 7 times already

who lost the war?

dialogue i had with a guy active with some communist bs

> fascism is le enemy my brotha, get woke
> dude we have had emperors for so long why are you only talking about mussolini and hitler like they did something noone thought about, why is this different than communists wanting to abolish democracy or any historic emperor
>eehhh, le fascism is le bad

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beyond brainlet posting

Myth of sisyphus

going to the gym in about an hour comrade, rest easy

Is Boulder pushing a good routine

Pic related is Ayn Rand's most significant contribution imo. Fountainhead is important teenage reading, Atlas Shrugged is honestly just ok, but Philosophy: Who Needs It is such a wonderful little presentation of the importance of individualism and actually giving a shit. I only like Ayn Rand, but I LOVE this book.

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yep, this one's going in my sjw cringe compilation

Both of you need to get off this board.

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I had to Google that but holy shit it's real

>(You)

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Her thoughts on objectivism profoundly changed how I think about things.

"The primacy of existence (of reality) is the axiom that existence exists, i.e., that the universe exists independent of consciousness (of any consciousness). . . . To grasp the axiom that existence exists, means to grasp the fact that nature, i.e., the universe as a whole, cannot be created or annihilated, that it cannot come into or go out of existence. Whether its basic constituent elements are atoms, or subatomic particles, or some yet undiscovered forms of energy, it is not ruled by a consciousness or by will or by chance, but by the Law of Identity. . . . Nature is the metaphysically given — i.e., the nature of nature is outside the power of any volition."

In the context I was reading, here are the first two sentences as I took them, paraphrased: "reality exists outside of your perception." Meaning that even your take on the world is likely skewed by bias and that nature exists regardless of your ignorance, understanding or ability to enact what you see as change. Only when you can look at things objectively can you act with assurance that yours is the proper course. Facts are not going to change to your bias or lack of ability to reason them.

I swear that paragraph rocked me to my core. It completely changed how I look at politics, people, my own politics (formerly Libertarian now simply Right-wing) and my own bias.

>Her thoughts on objectivism profoundly changed how I think about things.
lmfao

I don't get it

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Okay then, how much is a gallon of air worth?

wow you're so normie congratufuckinglations faggot

OUT OUT OUT

Your post has profoundly changed how I think about things

See

>fuck the government!
>ahhh government save me!!

>see the post you replied to in the first place
I'll ask again, if air is so valuable, how much for a gallon of it?

Depends on the setting, innit? If you're in an air vaccum, that gallon will be a fortune

Idk what's the worth of living for another 30 seconds? Do you have an objective valuation of 30 seconds of life?

Yeah, I know how supply and demand works, but we're not on the moon right now. If air is valuable, then it has value, which can be measured. What is the value of a gallon of air?

>What is the value of a gallon of air?
7 bucks

in society we are forced to accept compromises, middle grounds. trading a chance to shoot for the stars for something mediocre but one that everyone can benefit from. a common goal is vision stripped entirely of what makes it outstanding

That's a poor comparison. If I'm running out of life, a little bit of extra life is worth a lot more. If I have a minute left, 30 seconds would be a lot. If I have 50 years left, 30 seconds can go fuck itself. On that note, the earth is currently full of air. Breathable atmosphere is being produced faster than it's being consumed, so with that, a gallon of air can go fuck itself. But if the claim is that, despite the abundance, air, no matter the volume, is valuable, I would like to know the value.

read pic related

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I always highly reccomend Anti Oedipus to everyone, especialy if you're a Jow Forums user.

Its a very difficoult book, requires you to have at least a basic understanding of Marx and Freud, but if you can waddle through this one + the second part it will really change your perspective on so many things.

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Dude, what the fuck is it even you're discussing here? No doubt that air is valuable, that shit is non-debatable if your goal is to live. You want me to put a price on a gallon of air? For what purpose?

Consider that with each moment you are rapidly dying. And with each breath of air you extend your life for mere minutes. With that each breath becomes priceless does it not?

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>Švejk
based af

All this paragraph does is exemplify why Ayn Rand is a talentless hack

>drawing inspiration from an ugly hypocritical manjew

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I'm not saying air isn't important or essential. I'm saying that "value" is something that can be measured like "temperature" or "speed". A previous user stated that something doesn't have to have market value in order to be valuable, which is a contradiction in terms. Air is an example of a post scarcity resource, it being produced for no cost faster than it is being consumed. Therefor, it has no value. Again, I'm not saying it's not important, obviously, but if something actually does have value then you could tell me how much you'd pay for it. If cars magically appeared randomly, at no cost to anyone, as fast as we can make use of them, cars would still be useful but now completely valueless, as nobody would pay shit for a car.

>And with each breath of air you extend your life for mere minutes. With that each breath becomes priceless does it not?
Yes, if there was not infinite free clean air around me being produced faster than I could consume it, breathable air would have value because of it's scarcity. But as I've stated previously, there is no scarcity.

I think I agree with you, but it seems an incredibly silly discussion grounded in semantics

Enchidrion by Epictetus

classics.mit.edu/Epictetus/epicench.html

Well yeah. Some guy just used a word incorrectly and I wanted to demonstrate how it was incorrect.

With that said, you can exist in a setting where you could place monetary value on air. Think living in a space station. So air is hypothetically valuable in an economic sense

>if you have have a basic understanding of kikes, it’ll really open your eyes
Just read culture of critique, desu

>reading Ayn Rand’s capitalist fantasy
>not reading Upton Sinclair’s socialist fantasy to know the political climate that proceded Ayn Rand

*click*

There's no "if". That's the reality. You can go 10 minutes without breathing. In those 10 minutes you die rapidly. You don't have 50 years left. You have exactly 10 minutes left. In this case a gallon of air aka 30 seconds becomes valuable does it not. Again this idea that things only have value if it can be sold for a monetary value is ridiculous.
People sell air in cans on earth. But that's not the point since it becomes scarce- which is why it can be sold. But things don't gain value once they can be bottled up and sold. That's not the point. See above

Sometimes measuring "value" is not as easy as you think. It's not like temperature or speed. How much do you "value" your body (this being Jow Forums)? I read somewhere that the average American citizen is worth something like 23 million dollars. So would you sell out for 24 million? Air is an example of the tragedy of the commons in a way, since everyone shares from it's benefits and it is a non-excludable and non-rivalrous good no market can properly put a price on it. I see your point that since supply currently outweighs demand the price is driven way down, but let's not forget that the air is getting worse and worse.

>People sell air in cans on earth.
So then, you CAN put a price on a gallon of air

Marx and Freud were some of the biggest influences on contemporary continental philosophy. While it looks like we're now returning to Hegel, both Marx and Freud molded the way we thought about philosophy.

AND and understanding of the Nietch, Bergson, Spinoza, Kant, Kafka, Spinoza, Francis Bacon

Yes, I know, I've stated several times that air has no value because it's post scarcity, and the only way you could assign measurable value to it is if you're in a hypothetical scenario where scarcity is reinstated.

>There's no "if". That's the reality.
Let's say your car magically generates it's own gasoline as quickly as you can use it up. I can say something like "you can only go a few miles without gasoline" or "in my hypothetical scenario where you don't have infinite gasoline, gas would have value". That doesn't change the fact that you have no reason to pay for gasoline, and therefor to you gas is worth $0. It's valueless. So, how much will you pay me, right now, to give you a gallon jug full of air? I understand that if air was scarce for whatever arbitrary reason, you would probably pay some money for it, but because it's not, you won't. Do you understand?

What the fuck are you even talking about? You are all over the place and I can't tell what your actual point is.

This is stupid taken in and of itself, just because some goods inherently cannot have their costs and benefits internalized by producers doesn't mean they don't have value. That's what the tragedy of the commons is about, some goods have a socially efficient price and quantity that is not met by standard supply and demand internalized by a firm. That's why we need government, to try to find socially optimal values when markets fail to do so. A prime example is conservancy. There is no feasible way that the market could find the optimum level of conservation (think state and federal forests, parks, and monuments) so the government steps in to ensure these priceless common goods are properly allocated.

>Bergson, Spinoza, Kant, Kafka, Spinoza, Francis Bacon

I think if you've got basic understanding of philosophy (as in actual philosophy, not pop self-help books) and some philosophical intuition you can more or less understand the references to these without reading them. Good call on Nietzsche though.

>and the only way you could assign measurable value to it is if you're in a hypothetical scenario where scarcity is reinstated.
Apparently not. As a post above me reminded me of, you can go and buy bottled air right now. Ask the people that sells it what value a gallon has