Listen to the "machines are useless" meme

NO PAIN NO GAIN LMAO FUCKING FAGGOT IF YOU DON'T DO PERMANENT DAMAGE TO YOURSELF YOU'RE A FUCKING PUSSYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

it only feels that way bc it’s a new exercise. do it for a couple weeks and you’ll be back to square one. you just aren’t adding weight to your squats anymore.

machines are not bad, they are useful for isolation and if your muscles are tired (like if you benched before and want to do more pecs but your triceps are tired you do flies machine)

Leg press is unironically 100% more effective for quad growth and leg aesthetics than squats

Squat is an ego lift along with deadlift. Useless for aesthetics. Compresses your spine making you shorter, injury risk, inefficient, destroys your knees, doesn't hit quads as well as leg press

Delusional Ss fatties will deny and cope into their graves

your fault for listening to dogmatic statements.

Leg press is fucking great. It isn't a substitute for squats because it doesn't incorporate much of anything above the hips.

Why would a leg exercise need to incorporate ANYTHING above the hips?

>muh compounds are enough to target core
Biggest meme there is

>>amazing burn, can go slow and steady unlike heavy squats
>>wake up with unreal glute and quad doms
>going slow with heavy squats
>training for a burn
>doms mean i did something and am building muscle :)
how fucking new to training are you bud? if you want time under tension for legs, squats are still good, but you cant do that with heavy squats. how new are you?

ugly mongol

nothing to see here

kek

If you're lifting for hypertrophy and did sets with more than 60% of your 1RM then soreness is actually a pretty good indicator that you did enough volume to stimulate growth.

If you squat 405 and go into the gym and squat 135 for 20 sets of 20 with normal rest periods you're gonna be real fuckin' sore the next day but it probably won't make you grow.

>Squat is an ego lift along with deadlift. Useless for aesthetics.

I thought squats were THE exercise for the ass though.

ive been considering dropping squats and deadlifts after months of lower back pain

no matter how perfect my technique is, i still get terrible pain in my lower back

sucks, but maybe it is a meme and im better off doing machine stuff

It's just a question of training economy. You only have so much time. If you can reduce your 10 sets of leg press and 10 sets of abs to 10 sets of squats and 5 sets of abs and get the same training effect then that's a win in my book.

Plus if you don't squat than everyone will think you're a pussy.

I just fapped to my sister's panties, am I a degenerate?

No. I would have fapped with your sisters panties too.

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why

Lmao all these butthurt powerlifting "train for strength" faggots.

The absolute state of fit

Based quads

>tfw the leg extension machine makes my quads feel like theyre on fire

I’ve decided that machines are perfectly fine, there are enough machines to hit all movements needed to train legs. Hell even the keegle machines train your legs like squats can’t.

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Yuck.

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>Why do people keep acting like having [physical indicator of muscle fiber breakdown and healing] clearly means their workout was effective?

beats me

brace your core

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Gonna see if those machines make my adonis belt more developed

>tfw i unironically skip leg day because i'm a manlet and have naturally stocky legs
all i do is cycling and calf raises for legs. And I guess rack pulls if they count

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your technique isn't perfect enough if you're feeling pain in your lower back

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No THE exercise would probably be the glute bridge. Sumo deadlift has a better carry for ass than squats also. The squat for a big ass thing is overblown. It is good for an ass but 90% of chicks that hear about it and start squatting all squat in a manner that puts 0 weight on the hips and all in the quads.

Science has yet to effectively link DOMS and muscle fiber tearing. There's very little evidence on what actually causes DOMS, we just know it's not the old lactic acid buildup mindset.

Doms is a sign of muscle damage. It’s normal to have it if you work out but if you get to the point where you can barely get out of your bed it means you are training like a retard and should take it easy. Another reason for getting doms worse than usual is to do an exercise you’ve never done before. I can guarantee 100% that if I ask some lifters to do 10x10 hindu push ups, the next day their delts will be fried.

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>doms is a sign of muscle damage

You'd think if it were so obvious, science wouldn't have been completely wrong about what doms is for decades.

>listening to Jow Forums
>taking fitness advice from khvs

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Thanks user. Definitely adding glute bridges to my routine.

that's a dude

Until proven otherwise, this is the current consensus. What science can’t explain is how it forms but it is pretty much a fact what happens to the muscles after the effect starts.

Because that's what everyone is taught. Even here a lot of people think it's true.