What type of sport can I take up that is most practical for fighting?

Make:
One of theseFemale:
Gun

What do you call fighting?
Self defence?

Anything in mixed martial arts will get you skilled and fit enough. Or are you talking weapons and combat?

Jow Forumsung fu

Legit AF

1 striking style: karate, muay thai, boxing
1 grappling style: judo, wrestling, sambo
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Jew-jitsu is quite useless on the street

Boxing. All these grappling/wrestling sports are a fucking meme and a waste of your time. Just train for strength + boxing as cardio and you'll be good

>get in fight
>taken down immediately

I wrestled folkstyle (and a lil greco) in high school and still do every now and then. It's definitely one of the most practical fighting styles but each one is different and has a whole list of pros and cons.

Just go for it desu dude i need a wrestling partner desu

>In fight
>Get stabbed immediately.

Train weapons.

>get in fight
>knocks them out with a right hook to the jaw

>In fight
>Get drone striked immediately

Train nuclear first strikes

Thinking about trying Kali/Escrima. Anyone have any experience with it?
Did some Japanese meme-jitsu in highschool and a semester of fencing (only foil) in college.

> Everyone’s a glass jaw and they won’t just football tackle you to the ground

>thinking you're strong enough to knock a guy out with one punch

t. guy who watches too much UFC

If you are fighting somebody and they're strong enough to manhandle you to the ground it was already over and you never stood a chance
You are a fucking moron if you think you can just tank punches in the face like it's fucking rocky or something

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Kali is thee martial art that fucks up all martial arts. You don't have to worry about self defence in prison if framed. Even guns at CQC ranges don't stand up to a knife, with a skilled guy holding it.

I go to Kali classes half regularly, then go to a three day 32 hour kali summer camp each year.

It is often taught along side JKD

> The only way to get someone on the ground is brute force
T. Person with 0 grappling experience

the art of being born tough with some natural instincts for fighting and outweighing your opponent by 50+lbs

beats any martial art in terms of effort:reward ratio

It literally is. Unless the person you're fighting is concussed or in some other way disabled they will not let you grapple with them. Moreover, if some fucking retard DID try to grapple me I would put my thumbs in his eye and the fight would be over by that point.

real fights between real people are not the same as 2 faggots agreeing to fight in a ring under the regulations of their chosen faggot martial art

>Moreover, if some fucking retard DID try to grapple me I would put my thumbs in his eye and the fight would be over by that point.
i'm sure you're only pretending to be retarded. right?

Have you ever had a thumb put in your eye?

>it’s super easy to stick fingers in some guys eyes while he’s fighting you
Confirmed 0 experience retard.
>they will not let you grapple them
How are you going to stop some guy from grabbing you, running away?

Grappling =/= fighting. If somebody is trying to put somebody on the ground they are not throwing punches.

>How are you going to stop some guy from grabbing you, running away?
sock him in the face. maintain distance with my arm.

>Everyone hasn't had experience with retards who can't stand and bang immediately going for the tackle

Yeah...
Dude who knows how to throw a few good punches can handle some fag who tries to football tackle.

>grappling can only be done on the ground
Confirmed retard again learn what takedowns and throws are

>he can't read
never said that at all. I said that if somebody is trying to put you on the ground (the point of grappling), they will be trying to shift your body and will not be focused on throwing punches. Therefor, it is not risky to put a finger in somebody's eye. unless I'm outclassed by 20+ pounds of muscle (at which point you're fucked anyway) there is a very low chance that somebody is going to be strong enough to manhandle me like a child. Keep coping about your useless martial art fucking fag

Sure buddy I’m sure you can stick a finger in their eye. As I said earlier no experience, you keep talking like you could do a 1 hit knockout or cripple them easy because you’re tough and edgy.

Jui Jitsu, wrestling, kickboxing, boxing

Jogging. A legit fight will probably bring in a weapon, or the other guy's group of friends, or a guy who doesn't give a fuck if he maims you and goes to jail over it. Win the fight by not fighting.

Wrestling to stuff those gay takedowns they teach you in bjj and kickboxing or muay thai to keep range and do damage. There is a reason that bjj is starting to get phased out in mma. Its because its easy to beat bjj fighters if you stay on your feet and keep proper distancing.

The safest option

You don't have to knock them out in one hit and I never said anything about that. YOU pulled that out of your ass to create a strawman. However, if you think you can just bull ahead and shake off punches to the head like Nate Diaz or something you are legitimately a fucking retard and I hope somebody beats the fuck out of you when you go up to them and try to fucking wrestle with them.

I was talking about the finger in the eye for the 1 hit dumbass, and you’re assuming you can just pop off punches and not get rushed and just keep the guy at arms distance from you without him also grabbing you.

Also we could see how tough you are, you in Florida?

You should try a speed test.
How fast can you thumb a bjj black belt in the eye, and how fast he can choke you out.

It happens fast.

Sounding good breh, don't hear it mentioned that much on here. Is it more that Kali is taught alongside JKD since it's a part of JKD/so that JKD has more weapons training, or is JKD taught alongside Kali since it's good to learn other striking/grappling styles to go along with Kali?
I'm interested in taking something else as well anyway, any suggestions? At the moment my main options are boxing and Muay Thai (or expensive af BJJ and MMA schools and dozens of Karate schools I'd have to weed through). I'm moving to a city next year though so I might just wait and see if there's Judo or something there.

Also if you know, is Doce Pares Eskrima any good?
Only other nearby school teaches something described as "martial arts cross-training" that apparently involves Kali, Silat, JKD, grappling, etc. for self-defense but I'm skeptical of this one.

Kali is apart of JDK. Bruce Lees side kick Dan Insonto is a kali master. I have taken seminars with him.
Other JKD schools have almost no kali. It depends on the linage.

At my main school. They cross train to the max. Kali, silat, JKD, Thai boxing, even BJJ. If they are legit teachers it works, then again my school trained some famous guys. Legit to the max.

You do know kali has unarmed stuff too?

MMA is your best bet for fighting unarmed. The cage is the best test unarmed.
Thai boxing is the main striking art that transfers well with kali as they are BOTH from Thailand. It blends well with kalis unarmed stuff.

BJJ is legit, if not butt scooting. Fast way to kill someone. Judo is cheap and awesome. Takes a good two years to get to sparring good. Took privates with this red belt.

Doce pares is a well known style.

Look up the dog brothers. Full contact stick and knife fighting. Often people get disarmed and use there thaiboxing and jujitsu/judo skills to finish. It is like MMA with weapons.

Karate sucks, to many forms and not enough sparring or freindlyness to cross training.

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>Ctrl+F
>No results for krav maga

Shiggy.

Grappling is Judo
Striking is boxing

everything else is a meme and theres a reason the others are made fun of. Also I think if a pure striker vs a pure grappler were to fight (same stats) the grappler would win 99/100 times easily, so go for grappling first

Pocket Sand

Friendly reminder that martial arts cannot fight. People fight. Don't compare arts compare teachers.

jej'd

Yeah I knew it had unarmed as well. With striking that looks a bit like MT with elbows and kicks. And grappling that also looks a bit like MT clinching with trips/sweeps plus joint locks. Just wasn't sure how much of the striking works compared to say Muay Thai, guess it depends on whether the school spars unarmed.

The striking with weapons techniques form the basis for the unarmed striking too right? I like that it seems fairly complete on it's own.

I've been leaning towards trying the Doce Pares school since it's regulated and all that. And look at the cross-training place after learning some basics; seems like a good idea and it's encouraging that your school also does so but I want to make sure I'm actually learning Kali, as you said, from a legit teacher. Also classes aren't that frequent so if the teacher is legit I'll go to both anyway and pick up another art after getting competent in Kali.

Thanks for all the infos.

5x5 strong lifts. Then transition to Texas method or something. Who needs to practice fighting to fight when you can brute force it.

You aren’t a boxer so don’t pretend to know what you’re talking about. Right hooks rarely ever knocks anyone out because you can see it coming from a mile away. You see a lot of knockouts with the left hook though. Are you actually referring to an overhand right, dummie?

Do you have a ref following you everywhere in real life to break up clinches too?

Learn how to wrestle,and kickboxing.
Now,I would say that muaya is better than kickboxing.
However its much more expensive,and harder to find a good school for it.
Also,be careful with wrestling people down on hard surfaces.
Especially the road.
Punch them or kick them is better.
It wont take much to stop the average drunk retard than a solid punch.

The ETERNAL phoneposter

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Your regular fuck doesn't know how to fight boxers. Just do boxing. Regardless of what you take get a gun license if you can in your state/area. Women should always carry something like a gun or bear mace. Better than learning self defence nonsense and realizing it was a scam just to get raped in an alley.

what's the legality of just pulling your strap if someone threatens you? in my state you can get in trouble even if they break into your home and you shoot them

muay thai and bjj /thread

Join a gym.
It is more easy.
Bigger you are the more you can push around. A small due who trained can still get you.

Move to a state that isn't cucked.

Needs takedown defense.
Floyd vs MC G

Yes

Only reason would be other factors.
Jujitsu's goal is to over power a opponent. Get weapons and or run.

A small dude with skill will wreck you.
Tyson with skill of MMA, weapons, armed to the teeth, with a vest that stops rifle rounds, jason borne stuff. Is what I am after.

Learn the law.
But yes. That is all on if your kinda need. To surpise. Break you hand. Some guys know how to fight.

Jujitsu
Rape defense. Legit. Learn kali/ jkd / MMA striking and grapping art past awhile compete to have real world experince.

Cameras

More like bulid a stronger mind. And body. Meditative. Kill people faster, learn it faster.

>they will not let you grapple with them
What a fucking retarded statement, the whole point of wrestling is to move another person against their will.
A wrestler will not "try to grapple you" he will fucking blast a double leg or take your back and throw you down. Even easier if you're standing tall in your boxing stance.

>To surpise. Break you hand. Some guys know how to fight.
What are you trying to say?
That kickboxing and wrestling wont be enough to beat someone?
Do you think some jujitsu guy can beat a wrestler?
Maybe professionals.
But the simpler the art,the easier it is for the average Joe,or Bob.
There is a reason why wrestling was practiced in the past during war.
Mostly greco-roman.
Sorry,wrestling is better than Jiujitsu.
I agree,that you should have a gun.
Its the age of the gun,in the age of the sword,you must have a sword,and if you go back enough,muscle and brawn,would be needed for self defense.
I forgot to mention,yes,if you are not protecting someone,its better to be able to sprint and run fast,than to fight.
If some retard on the street tries to fight you,and there are guys that are near.
Chances are these are his friends.

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Flash light. Blinds them, sees who it is.
Take up kali? And fox labs is good. Better to be more prepared just in case.

wrestling is awesome. Controls postion.
Better have both or know the other well. Cross train. Yea wrestling is the simplest, works. Know submissions kill though. Kill one faster. I wish I wrestled

But simple rear naked choke is simple. Armbar is simple.

Football

Any tips on how to balance lifting and wrestling?
Anybody have experience in wrestling it self? How long does it take to get decent, good etc. And would you recommend wrestling to others?

>Moreover, if some fucking retard DID try to grapple me I would put my thumbs in his eye and the fight would be over by that point.
you haven't been in a fight yet, have you?

I would say do lowest possible volume in your work out.
And minimize or remove cardio in your gym session.
Since you will do lots of cardio on your wrestling sessions.

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Sounds reasonable, can't get too fatigued doing lots of volume. Was considering doing a full body workout consisting of a "light volume Day" with 3x5 compounds, an intensity Day where i hit New 5rm and a bodybuilding Day with more volume, but with 2 rest days after or something.
Sort of texas method, but with less volume on volume Day and a bodybuilding workout instead.

Go look at street fights online and you'll see 90% of them are punching. Either Boxing or Muay Thai are the essential self-defence combat sports, there's no other answer.

because you can't usually expect any grappling experience from some random retards fighting on the street

>niggers and wiggers are the best example of fighters
Really user you can do better

Work on your grip if you wrestle.
Train it like an arm wrestler would.
Grab heavy things in weird positions.

pls be bait

I used to think similar to this, then I joined a martial arts gym. I was bigger than 60-70% of the guys there, I'm relatively strong too, but in BJJ when I rolled, guys as small as 130-140lbs were submitting me no problem.

Being big and strong doesn't mean jack shit unless you're Hafthor Bjornson or whatever. If you're not freakishly big like him, then you can get the piss knocked out of you easily.

youtube.com/watch?v=kL3VzjcptBI

Not agreeing with that guy or disagreeing with you, but strength matters. If you had been training bjj as long as those 130lbs guys you'd most likely beat them. There are weight classes for a reason.
Untrained people are so bad at grappling it's kinda pointless to argue what would happen.

Have you ever actually been in a fight?

i do Mexican judo.

Yeah. BJJ is useless, but go learn fucking karate. Lol

both correct

strength +specific fight training>weak with fight training>strength no fighting training>weak no fight training

THIS X 100

>Jeet Kune Do

Please shut the fuck up. Good god.

marksmanship

I wrote that as bait, faggot.

it's not useless but you don't want to be on the ground in a streetfight where jamals homies can proceed to stomp the shit outta you while you choke tyrone

>train concealed carry every day of my life. I ain't looking for trouble honest.
>Man approaches me, clearly he has malicious intent!
>A draw and scream get down on the FUCKING GROUND!
>He jerks clearly he is reaching for his weapon.
>Judge reviews CCTV footage and interviews witnesses.
>It was a teenage boy who wanted to give him a promotional pamphlet and was startled by the gun in his face.
>Get sent to prison.
>Chew a gun out of soap to remind everybody I have the quickest draw in the yard
>First day in general population
>Get beaten to death while screaming "I HAVE A WEAPON! GET D-D-DOWN ON THE GROUND!"

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This right here. Don't fall for the BJJ meme. It's a great style but it works so well in a cage where you are safe with rules.

In a real situation you want to get the hell out of there as fast as you can. You don't have time to set up things when someone is trying to cave your skull in. It's similar to most traditional martial arts that show you tons of techniques when you only apply a handful of effective moves.

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Wise senpai. (you) for respect.

Krav Maga. Entire fighting style is about abandoning decency in order to win at all costs. It’s like how in women self defense classes they teach a bunch of really brutal and nasty means of incapacitating an assaulter like eye gouging, groin kicks etc. Except in Krav Maga the moves incorporate the fact that you have man strength so they teach you even more fucking brutal moves like rabbit punches, neck bites, and shit like that. Also there’s a part of the discipline that teaches knife skills, which as a means of self defense is very practical since a knife is much more effectively concealed when defending than when attacking. If someone attacks you and doesn’t see you have a knife, they won’t defend themselves against a knife so you’ll be able to kill/incapacitate them as soon as they get within arm’s reach.

Not entirely true. Not trying to one up you brah but there are some situations you just can't get out of practically. I've been in that kind of situation before, my wrestling came in handy. Since we're on 4chin, have you ever seen that one webm of a store owner getting stabbed by a robber? It was like 2 and a half minutes of constant fighting and effort, and the victim was clearly weaker. 2.5 minutes don't sound like a long time but most, including lifters just don't have it in their tank. And it was 2.5 minutes of constant struggle, where just a little grappling experience could have really helped this bro. He died very graphically, painfully and slowly and that fella took his money. Why be a victim when you don't have to? You don't have to be a fucking black belt, but some training is worth it.

BOXING, soon as someone even reaches for you or charges you sock them in the face then keep punching til their face is mashed potatoes

Some armbars, most chokes and wristlocks work standing if your not a fucking retard.
Double, single a sweep and Osotogari are almost all what you need to throw a cunt anyway.
TL;DR but noice pasta.

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jamals homies will stomp the shit outta you anyway if there are several of them against you alone

I lol @ le self defense courses (including krav maga) that teach eye gouges stop violent rapists and murderers. It's all a shekel farm.

wait is the guy in bandana antifa or what

This is why you should own a gun. But guns aren't always practical and proven martial arts like bjj can be of use in those situations until security or bros will help you. Don't be a brainlet Jow Forums.

Yeah kek.

I remember some user said that commie become mentally challenged after this.

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