Anyone cave or rock climb? I need a routine that will make me lithe, give good core and upper body strength...

Anyone cave or rock climb? I need a routine that will make me lithe, give good core and upper body strength, as well as grip strength.

Does anyone do cross training for them?

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Well I Boulder, mostly inside tho. How long have you been climbing and at what level are you now?

Very beginner. I can maybe climb a 5.8

I'm more interested in caving, but they have some overlap

caving doesn't take any strength

rock climbing builds rock climbing strength. If you want to get better at rock climbing quickly thouhg i'd make pullups your primary lift on pull day and once a week do some work (DO NOT PUSH IT) on hangboards after a climbing sesh

I've found that doubles overhand deadlifts (no straps or hookgrip) really help my grip strength for when I climb.

What is the name of the cave that is very narrow so some people were stuck inside and there was no way to get the bodies out?

I started climbing this year and did my first (indoor) 5.10b yesterday
so far I only did hangboarding and a lot of pull ups and muscle ups for explosive strength

Most climbers recommend to start hangboard / campus board when you've been climbing for 1-2 years. Even then it's kinda soon. Why? Because you risk injury. Your tendons are not strong enough for that shit. And it's time off the wall. 30 minutes spent climbing does more good than that time spent hangboarding at the beginner/intermediate level.

Also it just fucks up your recovery, meaning you will spent less quality time on the wall.

>Your tendons are not strong enough for that shit
Depends on how Jow Forums you are already imo

Not really, climbing grip strength is totally different from overall fitness. Muscles build somewhat fast, for tendons
It takes like 10x more time. And unless you build that strength regularly, you won't have it.

I'm talking about tendons as well

I think if you deadlift 3 plates or more there is no reason not to start early with the "easy" holes of the hangboard

For rock climbing all you need to do is pull ups and loads of grip training. And caving does't require strong muscles.

Srsly, have you ever climbed? I deadlift 4.5 plates and when I started to rock climb, my fingers started to hurt really quick when I was trying hangboard. Then I did my reading.

For rock climbing pull ups are kinda useless tho. In general you should do pushing exercises to balance your body from all the pulling. Also to avoid injuries.

Pullups are handy for building strength for weird tension or compression moves. Also if you're rock climbing at any level past a beginner trial session you should focus more on building feet and using your legs to reduce the amount of pulling. Save that strength for when you need it.

>building feet
would you recommend feet curls 5x10 followed by foot presses 5x10 3x a week?

Retard

>build feet

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Build feet doesn't mean pack muscle mass on your feet, it just means use proper technique, focus on placing good feet and using your legs to create efficient movement that doesn't leave you gassed after 2 minutes

how do you stop yourself from muscling your way through it all? I can't help myself and end up knackered within 10 minutes

Work each move out before you even get on the wall. Think about moving your feet before your hands so you have a solid base to move from. Use your hips more and try and learn how to use your center of gravity to reduce the effort required to climb something. Keep your arms straight as much as you can, it's good technique and as soon as you get used to it your endurance will improve tenfold.

Swinging around and trying to beast mode everything not only looks ridiculous but it hinders your development as a climber. You can't climb as long and you'll eventually hit a massive brick wall where strength isn't enough to make the next grade and you'll either injure yourself trying or get sick of it and give up.

>Srsly, have you ever climbed?
yes, I'm this user
I'm not pretending to be knowledgeable about climbing or lifting but I don't see the problem with hangboarding, esp. with those boards that offer multiple depths and difficulties

I already pointed out the problem here

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You could try some cool caves in thailand a friend of mine (a football coach) took his whole team to one and it was an unforgettable experience

*+ my stummy hurt +:/ **

ay guys, I do handstands and planches. Got wrist pain from handstands especially. Whats your opinion on the "rice bucket" method? This is what I learned/plan to do:

>build up different exercises up to 2 min each (hopefully more eventually)
>frequency at least 3-4 times a week, not sure if it's a good idea to do it 7+times a week.

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sounds fun. im not a strong swimmer so i'll move to this for cardio

Just do pullups by the thousands

My hands have never hurt once from hangboarding, and I started that shit when i started climbing...?

I've been climbing regularly for ten years. You can climb plenty hard and still be bigger. I do a lot of strength training too, so I'm up to 185 at 5'10. Still can lead 5.12a-b if I'm willing to risk a few whippers, and do most anything around 5.11a down so long as it's not some crazy Adirondacks grade whe e 5.10b is 5.11c anywhere else.

Caving is all technical skills for setting up rapels on static line and being ok with being wet and cold. You don't need to be strong or fit.

Also basically every gym I've been to (been a regular member at 4 around the US) grades soft as shit. I'm a 5.13 climber at my gym now and I'm nowhere near a 5.13 climber.