He still believes in CICO

It might. I've been eating 1600 calories for a long long time and I've plateaued at 160-162 pounds. I haven't cheated in over a month but I'm still stuck at this weight.

>It might

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your DNA might solve the energy crisis, user

It's a hormonal issue. You can brute force your way with pure CICO but it's slow, painful and after you're done your metabolism will be so slow that you'll instantly put back everything when you start eating normally again.

No that's dumb advice. Eating 500 calories of jellybeans a day will make losing weight extremely difficult.

If you want to explain it to normies just tell them this

1. Eat lots of fat
2. Eat a moderate amount of protein
3. Eat very little or no carbs
4. Eat at most 3 times a day

If everyone followed this routine there would be no obese person in the world within 1 year.

>he thinks the human body understands what a calorie is
>he thinks the human body transfers calories 1 to 1

tfw when I did just that to lose weight and then when I started eating normally, I didn't gain all the weight back.

Gotcha. So if I do everything here exactly and continue to eat 5000 calories a day I will lose weight

CICO is true you brainlet, it's just not the ONLY factor. what type of calorie you're eating matters, what you're eating with it, etc. ex. a diet high in fiber and complex carbs will slow down the absorption rate significantly, and produce less insulin spikes that trigger fat storage compared to one that doesn't have any and consists of all simple sugars even if calories remain constant.

Would be next to impossible because on that sort of macro diet you'd reach your satiety way before hitting 5000 calories. Carbs are what make you constantly hungry. I'd like to see anyone try to eat 5000 calories a day on a high fat diet.

T. Bodypositive whale

t. skellington

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t. never actually been on a high fat diet

when you enter ketosis and run on fat instead of glycogen your body goes HOLY SHIT I HAVE A SHITLOAD OF FOOD ON MY GUT so because it gets all the food it wants it suppresses hunger.

you'll literally get sick and throw up if you try to eat that much when you're in ketosis

Lmao no its not you fat cunt

It's so much easier to eat 5000 kcal from a high-fat delicious bacon, eggs and steak than 5000 kcal from whole rice and chicken breasts.
What kind of girl are you?

stop replying to me you fucking idiot you've obviously never been in ketosis 1 day in your life

I've done keto, at this point everyone has you fucking dipshit, you're not special and you haven't discovered something new.

If you cannot eat 5000 calories in 1 day, zero carb or not, you're a fucking absolute skeleton.

Post body btw

You just contradicted yourself there

Ok let me explain it this way.

I have 3 logs of wood, equal size, weight, and shape.

One log is bone dry. The other is slightly moist, the other is quite damp. Which log burns the best?

t. doesn't know the actual science

your metabolism slows down a little, yes. but getting fat much faster after a diet is because some people then eat like they ate when they were fat - obviously generating a much bigger plus of calories, because they burn less now due to their weight

i didn't. a person that eats the same type of calories but less overall calories than one that eats the same but more calories will lose more weight period.

4 u

>3. Eat very little or no carbs

Are carbs the new fat? Why does everyone here propagate the no carbs bullshit on here daily?

cause they're obese shit stains trying to project their stupidity onto others and justifying their retarded diet choices yet again. like i said in the other thread, once a brain dead fatty, always a brain dead fatty.

Carbs are fine as long as they're in moderation and are healthy carbs.

Carbs in general get demonized for a number of reasons

1. They're in everything and hard to avoid
2. There are lots of bad carbs like refined sugar
3. They spike your insulin harder than protein or fat

And generally carbs are in all the bad stuff we love: soda, french fries, potato crisps, cookies, ice cream...

>Oats spike your insulin
>Potatoes spike your insulin
>Rice and beans are bad for you
>Don't eat a lot of vegetables

>(You)

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Everything you listed, except soda, is high in fat and low in carbohydrates.
Back to the dumb dumb factory.

what ketards don't realize is that fats are also in these same products they rant about. they are literally brainlets that think their macro ratios are the reason why they're losing weight when they're just starving themselves.

You do realize that the human body does not do fusion or fission so our mass follows mass in mass out perfectly (MIMO)

IN
>food
>drink
>oxygen

OUT
>CO2
>pee/shit
>shedding hair/skin

Try disprove physics faggot

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CICO works, unless you're on steroids. Hmmmm, it's almost as if it's the hormones...

No u

oi you burn stuff to move you cheeky cunt, you dont follow mass in mass out at all

>Listen to me kid , it's all calories in calories out mkay ?

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only fat people deny CICO

And how do u think that happens? Lipids and sugars are converted to CO2 which you breathe out. More exertion = more mass out

Because you eat more

>humans don't lose any energy through heat

What do you mean. That energy comes from burning fats, sugars, and sometimes proteins, and we exhale CO2 from that process. The energy we expend is reflected im how much we breathe out (among stuff like nitrates in urine).

>tfw Jow Forums never read lehningens principles of biochem

Sad

>The energy we expend is reflected im how much we breathe out (among stuff like nitrates in urine).

Not denying this, but since some energy is just lost through temperature surely it can't be a full 1:1 MIMO like you implied earlier, right?
Honestly, this isn't really my field so I'm happy to be proven wrong.

>when you start eating normally again.
>the diet that made you fat makes you fat again
Shocking.

>burning fats, sugars, and sometimes proteins
The body doesn't 'burn' anything

Is this you?

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The heat is coming from processes in our cells. To generate any heat we need to burn energy (stored chemically). Energy can't be created or destroyed from nothing, it's always converted from one form (e.g. chemical) to another (e.g. temperature).

It's a law of physics that energy and mass are conserved. Nothing, no matter how complex can escape this law. Not even a human body.

Then what does it do user. It's a chemical reaction we call burn because of the oxidation of carbob and hydrogen.

>just lost through temperature
That's part of MO.

>just lost through temperature
That's part of MO.

Eat less you fucking moron

Temperature has mass now?

Did you not take high school physics?

It isn't. Heat is not mass. But it's reflected by the extra carbon and nitrates that exit the body.

I did, I'm pointing out that temperature doesn't have mass. Did you not take high school English?

That's my point. It's reflected, but there's no 1:1 Mass in Mass out conversion as was implied earlier.

Your body isn't a simple machine, it's an incredibly complex one. If you don't eat a proper diet, you get sick, and when you get sick you are not as effective at anything, including fitness.

If you seriously don't understand that mass can become energy, you didn't pass high school physics.

how does that relate to cico

I understand that, but once mass has become energy it's no longer mass. So since some mass is converted to energy, less mass comes out than goes in.

For someone who questions others education so much you don't seem terribly bright.

Humans do not do fission or fusion. Mass-energy equivalence does not apply. Only conservation of mass and conservation of energy.

That does not change anything about the fundamental chemical reactions governing metabolic processes.

If you convert the mass into energy which them leaves your body, the mass has left your body.

it converts the potential energy of food into ATP, ATP2 and chain aminos. Which than is processed into your blood stream for use.

It doesn't matter if there's a 1:1 ratio (lipids having more energy than sugar, per gram), but that's besides the point since eating 100 g of fat and sugars, when fully burned,the body excretes 100 g of waste material.

So burning aka energy metabolism.

But it means that if you add up all the mass that has left the body and compare it to the mass which entered, the former will be less since some is converted to energy. This is why CICO is a better idea than MIMO.

Right, you actually seem to know what you're talking about. How can the waste material have the same mass as the fuel if some is converted to energy and then lost? Like I said at the start, this isn't my specialisation so I'm happy to be proven wrong.

>former will be less since some is converted to energy
The mass that is converted into energy has left the body.

Because splitting molecules doesn't change their mass. All we do is convert high energy molecules like sugar to low energy h2o and co2.
Your point would be valid for fusion or fission, but the human body does not do that.

Yes, but it left the body in the form of energy, not mass. So if you're measuring the mass that left the body, it won't take that into account.

Oh, I see. So nothing is actually being consumed in the "burning" of fats and sugars? Does that mean that the waste products could be converted back with energy, since no mass is lost?

> thermodynamics is a meme

Exactly. It's similar to the water cycle. Plants absorb CO2 and water to create sugars again by adding energy from sunlight.

Okay, fair enough. I genuinely wasn't aware that the total mass of waste products is exactly equal to the mass of ingested material, I thought some would be lost in the conversion to energy. Thank you for clarifying.

>it left the body in the form of energy, not mass
The body now has less mass, therefore you have had MO.

Honestly, this user seems more well read on the subject, and he's directly contradicting you. Me too, but he's convinced me more than you have. You just seem to have not understood my point.

>there is anime
Holy shit, thanks!

???

the one with nails in it

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The pic. Turns out the manga got the anime, yay.

Which manga?

Hataraku Saibou/Cells At Work

I've been eating 1100 calories a day all month and still have no abs

REEEEEEEEE

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Thanks.

I dropped to spooky skeleton levels and can't see my abs. You have to have them to see them.

>1. Eat lots of fat
>If everyone followed this routine there would be no obese person in the world
You're so oblivious it's painful

Fuck off with your stupid momscience bullshit and read the sticky.