OHP sucks

i enjoy my shoulders

We NEED a Top 5 list for accessory movements

face pulls
pull downs
shoulder shrugs
xxxx
xxxx

>Why bother worrying about Pull-Ups when it is clearly not going to allow you to overload as much
But pull-us allow me to overload more than chin-ups do, user. What now?

>pull downs

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All that means is that you're doing Chin-Ups wrong.

A Chin-Up uses more muscles in the body than a Pull-Up. The fact you're weaker on a lift that uses more muscle groups is undeniable proof that you're doing it wrong.

nigger faggot. heres a you.

GHR

>The golden core SIX movements:
Squat
Bench
Row
Press
Deadlift
Chins

>The golden SIX accessories:
Facepulls
Rear Delt Fly
Ab Wheel
Back Extensions
Lying Triceps Extension
Curls

I could only do 5
Sumo DL
OHP
Pull Ups
Dips
Lunges

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uhm but it's not and the ROM is smaller

you can cycle it tho

(it's still inferior)

Any OHP with barbell fucks my shoulders in their ass

I have to stop doing them
DB doesn't wreck the joint

Seems like a good place to ask

Im stalling on OHP rn and my problem is I can't seem to generate enough power on the first rep. If I get that first rep tho, I can do 2 or 3 more. What am I doing wrong?

>He doesn't know that BTN press was one of Arnold's golden 6, NOT standard OHP

>BTN
enjoy your shoulder impingement, retard. Your body doesn't work that way.

This but Rows get the honorable mention

ab wheel
glute ham raise

>He doesnt know that BTN was a staple among bodybuilders and strongmen , when everyone had good postures and nobody had shoulder issues.
Only fags with poor mobility can't do BTN. Work on your mobility instead of watching athcuckX videos.

Best be trolling for shoulder dislocations, this is too fucking retarded for words.

Do you have the bar across your collar bar? Are your forearms straight under the bar? You may be struggling from poor starting position.

Now there's also the potential that you've got too much weight on the bar, and that shows on the first rep, and the reason the next few reps are easier is because you're using the bounce reflex, instead of reracking it on your collar bone.

>Why are you guys doing an exercise that has proven time and time again to work by all individuals that have done them in the past?

GEE I DONT FUCKING KNOW, OP.
Fucking slide threads.

not an argument. anyone with a basic grasp of anatomy can see that your arms aren't meant to work in that way. If you really care that much just do fucking DB presses or something.

You mean pullups right?

lower weight, rotate between 4x8s and 5x5s and do it paused

honestly does pullups vs chinups actually matter that much? I've always just seen it as a personal preference one way or another. Personally I do weighted pullups

What the fuck do you know about anatomy?

most people can do more chin ups than pull ups though, idk wtf you're talking about

Rich piana claimed in a vid repping ohp below the chin leads to injury. Idk if he was referring to impingement or what but for that shrugging at the last bit of rom at the top prevents that. Try both if you ohp again.

>Rich piana
Roided freak with 0 mobility and 0 flexibility

Yeah, I get my forearms under the bar with my elbows in front of it a little bit. It could be the weight, but if I take off just 5 lbs it becomes easy af. But you're right, I utilize the bounce.

OHP is trash

You forgot 0 heartrate too.

because chinups utilize more muscle. me personally, i prefer pullups

bench press is a meme that is only popular because people think it's cool to have a big chest like prime Arnold

Why not take off 5lbs and let it be easier, so smash in more reps, and more sets, until your delts burn to death and you can't lift anymore.

Do that two or 3 times, and then go back to trying to lift your top weight again.

The one true lift is trash...Lol

D I P S

daily reminder that chinups become impossible once your bodyweight gets to actual man levels, chin and pull ups are for ottermode soibois

This.
Pull-ups are the ultimate dyel cope exercise

I think chins include your arms more so they are easier to load more weight on. That's the logic anyway, the difference is not as much as a lot of people think.

>tfw everyone keeps praising the chinup/pullup for back development but i only really feel it in my arms and never really feel my back working

t. fatties

>yeah, chins are an exercise that real big guys could never--
youtube.com/watch?v=xaEVDfDazI4

depends, really. anthropometry can render the back squat and conv deadlift ineffective for strength and size.

also, "effective" means nothing.

t.weaklet

rippletits is not what you call a big guy now is he

He's not exactly an "ottermode soiboi" either. If you can't do chin ups then you suck at chin ups.

Guess you never seen the videos where he shows he's one of the most flexible bodybuilders

Right, how much does he weight, he is a manlet after all. I can do 15 at dyel 176lb 6'.

kek

youtu.be/BSf1BFRcdxo

>lifting your body + weights over a bar
>"calling it a lift is retarded"
calling you an intelligent form of life is retarded

it's possible that some people have an overdeveloped back and no arms, so pulls might be better in the beginning. idk how the fuck this would happen to someone though

youtube.com/watch?v=Py8g4Rmu8Tc

Sounds good user, you're right. Just frustrating that OHP is such a grind compared to other lifts

B-but user, big guys can't do pull ups! Those guys must be really short.

shrugs are aids, dips are aids. i can not believe people think pressing at a 45 degree angle is healthy for their shoulders.

>Snap City bitch
>Snap Snap City bitch

squeeze your traps at the top of the lift