How to improve weighted pullups?

How to improve weighted pullups?
Train it the same way as the big four lifts?
Dedicate a day to it in your programme?
Any good accessories?

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meme autism exercise for special snowflakes. heavy rows + pull downs are more than enough

do unweighted pull ups everyday, when you get to the point you can do 10 strict, add weight until you can only do 6-8, then you get to the point you can do 10 with that weight, move it on up

But that isn't how you'd train one of the big lifts. Wouldn't 5x5 or something be better?

Not in my experience, but you do you user

Tbh I had a lot of difficulty getting to 10 unweighted, like my lats didn't have the endurance for it. Switched to 3x5 heavy and that helped me progress a lot faster both in weighted and unweighted.

High frequency and volume. I had major success by doing 7x5, 8x4 and 10x3 schemes on weighted pull ups.

What is it you want to raise?
total rep at a given weight or 1 rep max weight.

Different muscle groups respond to different rep ranges. Try out weighted 5x5 and report back in a couple months. Normie rep range is 6-12 but I bet you'd get good results

How tall are you and total weight are you guys pulling? Just to compare what system works best.

Wanna be able to do my weight +30kilos for 5-6 reps. Currently at 100kg + 10 for 5 reps at 6'1"

6'7", pulling 240 lbs + 65 lbs stalling a bit currently on 3x5. In January I could do 6 unweighted tops.

Oh damn. If that's not a larp that's impressive af

Have a relatively heavy day with 3 sets of 5 reps. 3rd set should be an absolute grinder. Add one set next week, bump up the weight by 2 kilos (lowest possible jump for me) after you reach 5x5 and start again from 3x5.
Have a volume day at least 2 days after the heavy day with 3 sets of 8 reps, overload following the same principle as the heavy day.
Finish the volume day off with about 50 total reps of unweighted chins.
This is all I've been doing for my back aside from deadlifts and it works pretty well for me.
Maybe you shouldn't take my advice though, I'm a chin chad who maxed out at 40kgs the first time I did weighted chins (I'm 87kg)

Not really, only like 25% of bodyweight. My former gymnast roommate does 100+ lbs at 135 bodyweight.

Oh fugg you said pullups
Replace the word chin with pullup I guess

I could do 10 with 15 kg added.
1 rm was 47 kg .
This a 94 kg, 192cm.
I used to do lot of unweighted and once a week work on weighted with 3 series of 5 at a given weight, or series of 3 10, 15, 20 , 30 kg and them 1 rep from 35, 40, and 45 kg

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nah you should add weight as soon as possible. From the second I do 3 chinups (not even pullups. I couldn't do 1 pullup) I started adding weight. in a few weeks I could bang out chinups easily and could do pullups despite never training them.

I started out with 3x3 but plateau at 70
Through trial and error I've found that the classic 3x5 is the sweet spot for progression. At 85x5
ladt workout. Dont worry if you miss the5th rep on the 2nd and 3rd set. Its really the first set that matters

Pulldowns are on inferior movement

181 cm, 81 kg bw in morning, 55 kg weighted chin up, 40 kg pull up. Gonna attempt 3 plate chin up soon.
T. Guy who does 10x3 on chin ups

Different person, but I'm 5'9 and 181lbs. I add 50lbs and do 4x5. Every now and then I can do 5, and I'm trying to get that to be my regular working set.

my max is exactly 30kg for 6 reps atm. (only weigh 87kg though)
did only 3x6 2x a week to get there nothing special.

overhand + deadhang full rom btw

forgot my height im 6'2

I can only do lmao1pl8 for a 5x5, but I came to the conclusion that pull ups ought to be trained in the same manner as the other big lifts.
When I do a pulling day I will do heavy 5x5 pulls along with an accessory movement for pull ups, in my case I do single handed lat pulldown for higher reps 3x~12
Pull ups are the goat exercise; but I still rarely see people do them unweighted, let alone weighted. People look at me like some sick and twisted freak doing 1pl8 lmao

Also forgot to post stats

(6’ 82kg age 20) (5x5 +21.25kg)
Pull ups are the only time a skelly has an advantage in the gym so I really tried to run with them (started at

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Once I get above 35 pounds or so I have been stalling. Can't seem to get to five reps in the third set.

Anybody know if there's a way to work on this other than just deloading and trying again? Is it not recommended to do stuff like greasing the groove with weighted chins? I probably just need to eat and sleep more and try harder but I was curious is this is a common problem.

set 1: as much weight as i can do 4-6 reps with
set 2: lower the weight to where i can do 6-8
set 3: lower it again until i can do 8-10, did this for bench ohp and squat and im now at 275/185/345 for 4-6 reps depending how good i feel that day

>Pulldowns instead of pullups

I find pulls to be very mental. A lot of leverage and widely varying degrees of muscle activation throughout the rep make pulls easy to do, but hard to master. Also, training bodyweight pulls for high reps, with lots of static, asymmetric, and negative work has helped me tremendously with weighted pulls. Think a week of intense up, down, side-to-side, all around unweighted pulling for god knows how many reps followed by a week of steadily increasing weighted pulls in a similar fashion to powerlifting training.
>bäsed rock climb poster

>How to improve weighted pullups?
progressive overload like anything else. Try adding 2.5-5 lbs every time you do them.

Train it the same way as the big four lifts?
Yes

Maybe if you're a lardass

t fatass who can't even do unweighted pull up

I'm 190 lbs and do +90 lbs pullups for 5 reps. On mondays I do high-volume unweighted pullups and on fridays I do weighted. I originally did pendlay rows for my back but then after an unfortunate trip to snap city I started seriously focusing on pullups as a back alternative that would keep strain off the spine. Haven't looked back since, although I'm now thinking about reintroducing rows without replacing the pullups.

IMO going weighted really is the best way to progress on pullups. I remember when I first started lifting I felt weak as shit and could barely do a few pullups at a time. Then I decided to hold dumbbells between my legs and do that, and they started shooting right up and it helped more than just trying to do more alone.

This. Last summer I started at 15 lbs, did them for 3x5 reps (always added in two sets of unweighted chinups afterward)
I increased about somewhere between 2.5-5lbs a week, by two months I was doing 1pl8 weighted pull ups. Once you can do that you can bang out 12 unweighted pull ups easily

Do a couple unweighted sets afterward, might be the push you need

Alright, so someone redpill me on chinup vs pullup. I've always done pullups because it just seems like the more natural thing to do (if you're doing any sort of actual climbing of any sort, you're simulating pullups not chinups) but I feel like I see more people on Jow Forums talking about chinups instead. Does it even actually matter?

It feels amazing doing a final burn-out set of unweighted pullups after doing a few sets of them weighted. It feels like you're on the moon and you're practically floating up with each rep because of how much lighter you feel compared to when you're doing them weighted.

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>I originally did pendlay rows for my back but then after an unfortunate trip to snap city

Do seated cable rows. Superior in every way.

Thanks anons, if I keep plateauing I'll give all this a shot. Also I'm basically at babby weights for everything but chin ups so maybe the rest of my body just has to catch up too.

I'm home gym master race. Don't have access to all that fancy-dancy cable equipment

If your a moneyfag you could probably invest in one of these (the examples I posted are expensive iirc)

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I think there will be pretty good carryover no matter what. I am the user here who got stuck at 35 lbs or so of chins. A few weeks ago I decided to see how many bodyweight pulls I could do, I did 10 pretty easily and could probably have done a couple more. I haven't really tried to do them for endurance for a long time, just weighted sets. A couple days ago I did 11 chins and that was the same day I did 3 sets of weighted chins. If you're doing one of the variations and pushing yourself it'll help no matter what.
The reason people say to do chins for weightlifting is because it's more of a compound, your arms do more work than overhand pull ups. So that also means you can theoretically do heavier weights with chins than with pulls (unless you are just really good at pull ups and don't train chins but most of the time chins are naturally easier). Chins will help with pulls, pulls will help with chins. There's not a huge difference.

doesn't really matter unless you want bigger biceps. pullups uses more forearms. you should do both

You’re* self correcting because I’m an idiot

What about pull-ups with a parallel grip Jow Forums? How do they compare with chinups or pullups?

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Does it really? I feel that my grip is becoming a limiting factor for weighted pull ups.
Anyone here have any experience with liquid chalk or some sort of straps?

cool, thanks. maybe I'll mix it up and continue to do weighted pullups on one day and high-rep unweighted chinups on the other. Don't really care about muh biceps or being a curlbro though.

Eh, I could consider that. I'm already leaning toward just getting a simple resistance band so that I can do some ghetto facepulls

Neutral grip. In my experience, they are easier than both pull ups and chin ups. Not really sure why though

For me I always do pull ups, I just like hitting my last more and it feels more "functional", I'm not worried about my biceps and I'm definitely hitting them anyway.

*lats

Yeah exactly I'm not worried about having huge biceps either, but like I said in the other post I'd do weighted pull ups and then finish off with unweighted chin ups just for fun

They're probably easier because your palms facing in toward your midline is the most natural position for your forearms to be, and it takes effort to have them pronated or supine. I don't really think it matters that much and you can just do whatever works for you.

>grip is becoming a limiting factor
Really? That seems odd. I do tons of pullups and I've never felt like grip was the limiting factor. Do you deadlift at all? Are you doing really high-rep sets and your grip is slipping toward the end? Try doing them weighted and for fewer reps.

Also, there's no problem with using chalk if you need to. If you think you need to use liquid chalk because of gym rules, I guarantee with 95% certainty that nobody will say anything if you use chalk.

One more thing: when I worked out at the uni gym, I would use the smith machine for pullups. Just set the bar at whatever height you want and then add weight to the bar so that it doesn't accidentally pop up from your upward momentum. I always preferred doing this rather than using the designated pullup station because I just wanted a nice straight bar with some knurling for grip. None of this meme shit with different extensions at different angles with shitty loose rubber "grips" that don't help at all.

How long you guys wait between pullup/chinup sets?
I've just hit 5x5 bodyweight yet wait exactly 60 seconds between sets

2-3 minutes.

I treat it like any other major lift. I wait increasing amounts of time as I increase through my warmup sets until I get to my working sets, where I generally wait about 5 minutes to make sure I'm recovered. Same as with my squat, OHP, etc.

Bodyweight I do 90 seconds, weighted I do 2 minutes

>how do i improve weighted pullups?
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