What part is genetics and what part is hard work?

desu I'd just say that having a good diet, lifting and sleeping is significantly easier than changing your DNA

this, sadly
if you think otherwise you're a noob, guaranteed

genetics determine your life, not only with lifting

Two years in, I had gone from 135 to 175 lbs. My deadlift was at 455. A few more years after that, I'm at 195 lbs, and my deadlift is at 585.

2 years is early in the training game. I'm planning on hitting 700 while weighing in the low 200s before I'm dead.

90% genetics
10% hard work

What do you put into your body to get those numbers ?

that's pretty unusual desu

usually guys who take 2 years to hit 455 have no chance in hell of hitting 585, you're a slow burn lifter i suppose

Lots of Greek yogurt and bagels.

Depends on how emaciated or how physically weak one starts as.

Well i personally had a background in judo and football before lifting and after 2 years my lifts just stopped improving.

You can only change your muscle and fat sizes. Thats literally it.

For your purposes as an average joe what your potential is is irrelevant.

change your training up and you will start making gains again
I made consistent gains for 5 years straight but I started with a sub 60kg deadlift, and stalled hard at 6 plates.

i weigh 165 lbs and i can only deadlift 330 lbs

do i need to start eating more ?

>eating more
No
I made my best gains barely training and eating just enough to maintain weight, even when dropping some fat I managed to get stronger.
Whenever I went on bulks like 1-2kg gain a month I would just get noticeably fat, it's not worth it, and the gains were the same.
Just change your training up, it is always the first thing one should do.
Maybe you're not training often enough, or maybe you're training too often, maybe too much/too little volume.
On deadlifts I find for example that 1-3 sets a week of 3~ reps once a week is more than enough to get stronger even up to advanced-elite levels.
As long as you eat enough protein you don't need to go on bulks or mass gaining phases.

I only deadlift once a week for 3x3 because i squat everytime i go to the gym.

>No
>I made my best gains barely training and eating just enough to maintain weight, even when dropping some fat I managed to get stronger.
>Whenever I went on bulks like 1-2kg gain a month I would just get noticeably fat, it's not worth it, and the gains were the same.
totally the opposite of my experience

I never made gains at maintenance calories past my first 2 years of lifting, only thing that works is slowly gaining weight (like 0.5lb a week)

caloric intake favours strength gains, but your body composition suffers almost every time.

try doing only one set of 5 reps on deadlifts once a week
how often do you go to the gym to squat?
squats and deadlifts use the spinal erectors and lower back to nearly the same extent, so squats greatly impact deadlift recovery.

depends how close you are to whatever your genetic limit is for muscle mass

big surpluses definitely just get you fat though, gaining 1lb/week is retarded unless you're a novice

you'll know how good your genetics are before your 1 year mark

good strength genetics: you progress with heavy weight easy. Think reaching 1/2/3/4 within 6-8 months at a decent bodyweight (160-180) and no advanced autism

good bodybuilding genetics: Pretty obvious once you start putting some meat on your delts and lats and have an accurate measure of your V taper. If your muscles respond fast to changes you are set. Notably you will have easier growth in traps and delts due to good androgen receptivity genes

this is awful advice, i only learned how to train properly after about 4 years

i guarantee if you've been lifting 2 years you don't know shit

to add to this, the guys with "bad" genetics are the ones who are stuck benching less than 225 after 12+ months of lifting, that guy who looks like shit after 14 months of lifting, the guy with the childbearing hips, the guy who cares about deadlifting but can only pull in the 300s while lifting for over a year, and etc

a lot of times people will say "diet" "routine" "rest", but it just isn't the case. Somebody with exceptional genetics will make more progress on a 500 calorie deficit than somebody on a 500 calorie surplus based on genetics alone. The harsh truth it that a lot of people have "bad" genetics for lifting and look for anything to cope with that fact

I feel like muscle insertions are the most important of all. More important than test levels even.

Even a low test twink could look aesthetic as ottermode with good insertions. But at the same time a high test ripped guy could look ugly as fuck with bad insertions (crooked abs, wide hips, etc).

Besides that, you cant change it whatsoever. You are stuck with the insertions / bone structure you have.

i squat 3 days a eek 5x5 80% weight every session

there's a difference between being a low-non responder and being average in muscle/strength development genetics
most people train too little or too much for their own good
training is an important factor, same thing with dietary requirements of protein which differs in accordance to one's hormonal profile and overall genome, people with great genetics can get jacked as shit on 70g protein daily, while the average peon needs to get his 200g daily or he can barely even reach nitrogen balance.
rest also impacts and skews caloric intake towards muscle growth and less towards fat gain.

that's super fucking retarded

pretty much this

>5x5
Too much volume for 3x a week frequency.
How much do you squat?
I used to do that once, the gains stop completely after several weeks, I remember this in detail, how I kept wasting my time doing 5x5 3x a week on squats, and my gains were slow and painful.
Too much volume for me(and for a lot of people too).
I switched to 2-3x5 3x a week and my gains were much better.
Then I changed to 3x5 2x a week, and deadlifting on the non squatting day and my gains just kept on going for months and months straight.
That's what gave me the most gains actually now that I remember.

Monday:3x5 squats
Wednesday: 1-3x5-3 deadlifts
Friday:3x5 squats

98% lighting
2% sun filter on instagram

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220 lbs it feels pretty light for me. I just thought i would see better results if lower the weight and increase the overall weekly volume.

Almost everyone can become more fit than a normal person who doesn't exercise with time. Almost everyone can do SS while bulking for a year to make easy gains. You can only find your genetic limit after moving to a different routine.
>if you aren't going to be the best in the world you may as well not do it at all
Then why are you on the internet making mediocre posts?

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100% hard work, because the only one you should be competing against is your former self

Don't take pride in victory over yourself, everyone can beat the weak.

big deal, i beat a retard

then dont stop there, do it again

genes are more subtle than that. Everyone has delts, abs, pectorals, and literally every other muscle in the standard human body, the 'genetic' factors are how they form to make you, like your frame, height, face and such.
Genes can hardly to notably affect muscle growth and metabolism, but most people are guaranteed the same results despite different amounts of time.

What you should be worried about with genes is shit like cancer, blindness, cystic fibrosis, and other ghastly diseases you can inherit from your genes - not things like "hurrr i can't get buff because muh genes"
Therefore you should always work out and at least eat healthy so your genetic profile doesn't betray itself

no excuses buddy

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10% LUCK
20% AKILL
15% CONCENTRATED POWER OF WILL
5% PLEASURE
50% PAIN

AND 100% REASON its your fucking genetics bro I'm sorry.

True.
I'm ashamed to admit this but I started out struggling to do 5 reps 65lb bench.
I can now do 5 reps 175lb
It took me two years to get here and I keep on making gains

Fuck that was good

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99% hard work. Genetics aren't going to gift you anything.

At absolute worst, if you actually work hard, genetics will give you an "unfortunate" body. You're always going to look better for a good routine.

genetics aren't going to gift you anything except for the way your body reacts to everything including resistance training

>hard work
the stuff I've done
>genetics
the stuff I can't do

You've already failed within, your failure will be shown outward.

brainlet

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Pics?

>he says this, fucking around in the gym for 4 years without realizing