>carbs make you fat
Is this the most annoying piece of broscience out there? It seems like every single time i talk to a person about cutting/losing weight they always immediatly start spouting this bullshit about how you should avoid eating carbs when you want to lose weight. Even people who don’t lift at all always seem to say this
Where does this come from? Or are they actually right in a way and am i missing something?
zero carbs makes you instantly lose water weight. normies who havent been fit for long think this is the only way to progress, but they always put weight back on when they are done dieting. kek
It's easier to gain weight on carbs (Poptarts, cookies, cakes, biscuits, chips, crisps, French fries, soda, etc.) than it is on chicken breast or steak.
So "cutting out carbs" is effectively just not eating junk food most of the time, which for most overweight people can help them lose weight pretty quickly.
Carbs don't "make" you fat, but going 1000 calories over your TDEE is easier with pasta than it is with fruits or veggies.
It's just an oversimplification.
Nah, CICO is the worst broscience. I suffer from calorie moistening, a disease where the calories I eat are drenched by my stomachs high water content, which means my calories don't burn away quickly. How does CICO help me? It doesn't. I have to eat dry foods like processed cereals, beef jerky, and raw rice or I don't burn any calories, its hard to eat like that
Just because you suffer from an autistic disease doesn’t mean CICO is broscience
People respond VERY differently to carbs. It will make some (usually very sedentary) people fat, and others don't have to worry one bit about it. There is no definitive answer to "do carbs make you fat?"
I'd source it up but I can't be fucked. Google it if you're interested.
CICO is the gameboard and carbs are one of the more maneuverable pieces on the board.
Protein = makes you feel full with fewer calories = makes it even easier to lose weight
they all come from backgrounds of obesity. they eat a shit ton of meat and don't want to give it up so they find another shitty diet like the current one they eat as a guise for progress but the reality is they're just making excuses to continue their shit eating habits.
>eating eggs is bad for your cholesterol
post your cholesterol scores faggot
>you’ll need to eat 160g+ protein bro or else you won’t build muscle
tfw no aryan jap jf to whiffle my pooter
They literally do make you fat. You can’t physically gain fat without an insulin spike. Carbs spike insulin the most, protein a little bit and fat not al all. Insulin can help with muscle gainz too but it’s a anging hormone that makes you die sooner.
pretty good
got any more?
>there are no fat people on the ketard diet at all
>carbs are more insulinogenic than protein
>carbs make you die sooner
Not him, but dietary cholesterol has no correlation with blood cholesterol
ok then, you too faggot, post cholesterol scores pussy
Post yours, faggot
Weight loss is almost completely down to portion control. You could put on weight eating nothing but raw vegetables if you ate enough of them. As a general. Anything more than a fistful per meal is probably too much.
make the claim, post the evidence faggot. and then i'll post mine
Nigga i probably eat like 3-4 eggs a year, me posting my cholesterol scores wouldn’t prove shit
No u
>talking to girl
>on a carb free diet
>"yeah, I don't eat pastas, rice and bread. I never eat carbs"
>literally eating a twix as she's speaking
I hope there are zero carb retards that actually exist. Enjoy your zero fiber, bloody shits, and colon cancer.
there's a zerocarb subreddit, they actually exist. yw btw
only reason I say is because most carbs are fattening like cake cookies chips soda juice. stuff like that and also carbs make you want to eat more and raise insulin resistance if you eat like a regular amerifat. Also ketosis is good for burning fat which is what most normies want when they say they want to lose weight
she's korean
>what is kale and dark greens?
>what is peanuts?
actually, most fat people don’t eat much meat, compared to the amount of pure carbs they consume (pasta, bread, pastries, donuts, candy, etc.)
Can you still lose fat if you eat like 120g of carbs daily?
Lol, yes. Easily. I've lost 50 pounds since July 2017 on 60% crabs. You can lose weight on any diet.
People who go on keto diets report having less of an appetite and lose weight.
u know those foods you mentioned are loaded with fat aside from candy right? also
>source: my ass
Yeah but i mean just losing fat instead of just total weight.
Basically i just want to know that if i eat below my TDEE and eat enough protein, will i lose fat equally as fast as eating a keto diet?
Carbohydrates n.: or "carbs," when translated rough from native normie dialect, refers to a variety of high-glycemic index food products typically dense in cane sugar, high fructose corn syrup, sodium, or gluten. Common examples include pizza pies, ice cream, candy or breakfast bars, hazelnut spreads, and fast food. Carbs are known to have significant spiritual value in the many "body-positive" cultural sects.
Ex: "I heard Jessica is cutting carbs for her wedding. I could never do that, my body needs carbs to run!"
>pasta and bread is loaded with fat, but "candy" is not
>american meat consumption is somehow relevant in a discussion about fat people specifically
I can't answer your rate question but yes, I absolutely lost body fat on a high carb diet.
70% adults of most 1st world countries are overweight, it is relevant you retard who.int
also they are loaded with fat because it's eaten with fat, the average person doesn't eat that shit bland.
>checks link
>In 2016, 39% of women and 39% of men aged 18 and over were overweight
>Overweight according to BMI
BMI is a fucking shit way to measure. It doesn't take into account bf%. Also correlation != causation, increased in meat consumption ok, what about the rate of carb comsumption? fat consumption?
Don't know. I enjoy a bowl of oatmeal and sweet potatoes from time to time and include it when I'm cutting for energy and to feel full. I don't know where people get the idea that all carbs makes you fat, increases your hunger, and is too calorie dense. I can eat an entire jar of peanut butter, which is mostly fat, and still feel like I'm not satiated at all, but steel cut oats and sweet potatoes help me feel full the entire day and I eat less because oif.
>It's easier to gain weight on carbs (Poptarts, cookies, cakes, biscuits, chips, crisps, French fries, soda, etc.) than it is on chicken breast or steak.
>So "cutting out carbs" is effectively just not eating junk food most of the time, which for most overweight people can help them lose weight pretty quickly.
>Carbs don't "make" you fat, but going 1000 calories over your TDEE is easier with pasta than it is with fruits or veggies.
>It's just an oversimplification.
it's easier to tell people 'dont eat carbs' than it is to list out all the shitty foods they should avoid that are 99.5% sugar/carb
>bread is loaded with fat
>one fucking gram of fat per slice
>pasta has 8 grams of fat per container (1600 calories)
explain what you mean by "loaded"
From my own experience. Yes carbs make you gain weight if you don't do cardio. In my family we eat tons of rice and bread with almost every meal and it makes me gain a lot of pounds. Which is why I got a gym membership in the first place because of the weight gain made me skinny fat after I stopped growing at 16 years old and my metabolism slowed down.
After listening to a crackpot vegetarian doctor on TV my mom and other people in my family started cutting meat and tarted eating more vegetables and grains and all of them started gaining more weight and look unhealthy. My dad is overweight and has type 2 diabetes. My mom gained 30 pounds
It's why grains are fed to animals to fatten them up before being slaughtered.
>From my own experience
Thanks for the qualifier.
its accurate because the average person doesn't work out. the only reason why bmi wouldn't work is if they're getting shit tons of muscle which the average dip shit isn't. also i don't know why it says that but if you filtered the map by sex it still shows ~70%.
also >correlation != causation aka doubt is our product
why don't you go look that shit up for yourself since you're just going to concern troll by nitpicking
>nigger can't read
again no one eats bread by itself, what don't you understand? if the average person could withstand eating that bland shit on its own do you really think anyone would overeat or eat junk food in general?
You can be a healthy vegetarian, but people who become vegetarians are doing it for a quick fix to the larger problem (analyzing your diet and improving it).
If you used to eat chicken with rice and now you're vegetarian and eat nothing but bread/rice/pasta don't be surprised when you gain a shitton of weight
Fill your body up with trash instead
>BMI is a fucking shit way to measure. It doesn't take into account bf%.
Not for the general population. There aren't nearly enough Jow Forums people to make a statistically significant impact on the data. If anything the really dyel people who are of on the BMI scale but overweight %-wise outnumber the people who are 'overweight' due to their muscle mass.
for me it's easiest to cut on (relatively) high carbs and almost zero fats
it's all individual and if someone chooses a low carb diet it's up to them but the "cutting carbs is the only way to lose fat" meme needs to die
it absolutely is not the only way.
but you can't argue that cutting out processed food is bad
Why would you ever say that grains are "LOADED WITH FAT" because you won't think people will eat it alone. Imagine someone saying chicken is a loaded with carbs because you're going to want to eat it with rice.
Well obviously you need to cut calories in order to lose weight, either that or increase the amount of burned calories in your day to reduce weight. But if you're using the first method (smart people will do both obviously) you reduce calories by getting rid of carb. Why? Your body doesn't need carbs to function, if it needs to it can just turn the protein into fuel. I'm no nutritionist but your body metabolises and uses carbs differently than it uses proteins as in it only uses however many carbs it needs for the energy demands as they come and stores the rest as fat. Protein on the other hand gets used right away and doesn't turn into fat as easily as carbs. If you're not trying to lose weight than yea eat as many carbs as you want if you have a fast metabolism and work out a lot but if you want to lose weight reducing your carbs is the way to do it. Everybody spouts this off because it's true and there's plenty as science to back it up. What else would you reduce? fat? Protein? you need both, obviously not absurd amounts of fat but you do need fat, carbs on the other hand aren't needed to function.
>>there are no fat people on the ketard diet at all
Nobody said that, but what can be said conclusively is that nobody GOT fat from keto.
Fat people who are on keto got that way from previous consumption of carbs.
>Nobody said that, but what can be said conclusively is that nobody GOT fat from keto.
>
>Fat people who are on keto got that way from previous consumption of carbs.
i don't have to type this out, thanks user
I don't know if carbs make me fat at all, but I'm sure as fuck they make me insanely hungry
>Poptarts, cookies, cakes, biscuits, chips, crisps, French fries
all have more calories from fat than carbs retard
You’re right in that carbs are less important than protein and fats and therefore you should reduce your carbs while keeping your protein and fats high. But you should still be able to eat SOME carbs.
The point is that lots of people are under the belief that if you want to cut fat or lose weight, you shouldn’t eat ANY carbs at all.
it isn't about the calories, it's about the insulin spike that comes from eating carbs.
Just eat like 100g of carbs in a sitting and feel how you feel. if you can listen to your body at all, you will realize that carbs simply make you feel like shit. this is really basic shit that all type one diabetics learn at like 10 years old. i'm not sure why you're such a dense carb apologist. Are you a kellogs lobbyist?
yeah and without insulin you'd be dead
>the normal physiological process to pull sugar from your blood will kill you
idk what kind of body do you have but 100g of carbs makes me feel like a god and make me productive for half a day
Nutrition Facts
Serving Size: 1 serving
Calories in homemade brownie
Calories 265.0
Total Fat 12.8 g
Saturated Fat 0.0 g
Polyunsaturated Fat 0.0 g
Monounsaturated Fat 0.0 g
Cholesterol 56.0 mg
Sodium 90.0 mg
Potassium 0.0 mg
Total Carbohydrate 35.7 g
Dietary Fiber 1.7 g
Sugars 0.0 g
Protein 3.2 g
?? Nigga you okay? Sugar is a carb not a fat dummy.
because it's true. no one eats bread on its own because it's bland as fuck. same with rice, or any grain for that matter unless they're starving. however i can definitely imagine people eating chicken alone, because our current culinary culture is meat centric dishes. unless you live under a rock, there's steak, sashimi, fried chicken etc that aren't eaten with carbs, but you can't name a single food that is bread centric without addition of fats because it doesn't fucking exist retard. bread cannot be appreciated on its own, but meat definitely can flavor wise.
>normie diet is high in both fat and carbs
>concludes people are fat only because of carbs
>pasta and bread are loaded with fat
It's the little things that keep me here.
Retard. Carbs can make you fat of you don't eat them right. It's about your activity level
Carbs should be primarily eaten for breakfast, pre, and post workout. Good luck not being fat eating a big bowl of pasta and ice cream before bed
dietary cholesterol has little to no effect on serum cholesterol
saturated fats (which eggs have a decent amount of) raise your LDL ("bad" cholesterol). up to 3 per day is usually fine though.
heart.org
I eat many carbs and I lost 15 kg, since November and I am female
That's not what I said though. But yea, if you're in a big fucking hurry to lose a bunch of fat eating literally no carbs is a good way to go about it honestly.
>>normie diet is high in both fat and carbs
>>concludes people are fat only because of carbs
The average person today is overweight, you utter retard.
I do IF and eat 70% of my calories 2 hours before bed, most of it being carbs (like 800kcal of carbs)
WHAT IS THAT FUCKING FILENAME
ANSWER ME
ANSWER GODDAMMIT
>Sana
>Korean
I guess you're actually just too retarded to understand why what you're saying makes no sense. But I'll humor you. You can add lentils, or any kind of legumes to your rice and it tastes great. There's still zero fat in that meal. Unless you're a hambeast who uses half a bottle of olive oil on your pasta, the vast majority of your calories are coming from carbs.
>You could put on weight eating nothing but raw vegetables if you ate enough of them.
I'm average height (6'2") and I would have to eat over 22 pounds of spinach to get myself from a healthy BMI/weight (24.9, 194lbs) to an overweight BMI/weight. So no, it's not just portion control. It's food choice also.
I don't know, got it from Google lol
Jeff nippard make a video on this and basically they are no different
FUCK YOU YOU LYING CUNT
TELL ME WHERE THESE FILENAMES COME FROM
so you quoted what i said but didn't actually say anything relevant to it, fuck off retard
that's not a dish retard, the average person doesn't eat your lentils + rice combination, they eat at restaurants or prepackaged processed food from supermarkets. stop projecting your shitty bland diet onto the average person
fuck you
>fuck yes, this is going to keep me in ketosis bros
Everyday Jow Forums gets more and more stupid.
I hope everyone ITT learned to never trust retards on the internet when it comes to diet.
Carbs make me hungry, hunger makes me fat. A plate full of pancakes doesn't feel like it lasts me as long as an equal plate full of eggs.
user, it's clear you have no idea how the fuck nutrition works. You've unironically said that grains and legumes are loaded with fat. You already blew yourself the fuck out. Now it's clear you don't even know how to cook. Lentils and rice are fucking delicious if you know how to cook your lentils. You legitimately sound like you let mommy do all your cooking.
The normie diet makes you fat, because the average normie is fat.
QED
bro why do you keep talking about what i eat, what i eat isn't relevant to the discussion. the average person doesn't eat that way because it's fucking bland as shit compared to actual restaurant quality food. like just you saying rice proves you are a brainlet, only ASIANS eat rice as a staple, not white people in western countries. if you're going to keep pretending to be retarded i'm going to move onto another thread
Because you're an idiot, I love talking to stupid people who get further entrenched into their stupid ideas when they're proven wrong. It's fucking hilarious.
If you said something like "most people compliment carbs with fats" I wouldn't have really cared because that might be true on some level if you had the data. But you went full retard and said that foods that are 90% carbohydrates are loaded with fat.
OP here
Stop fighting in MY thread right now or else
>I love talking to stupid people who get further entrenched into their stupid ideas when they're proven wrong
you didn't prove anything wrong, pic related. all you did was run around in circles like a fucking idiot thinking you had a point(you didn't), keep chimping out and being delusional though, i'm sure that will help you in the long run.
Again, further entrenching yourself because your ego is hurt. Human minds truly are amazing.
>carbs are fat guys
>we were wrong all along