Thoughts on DNP?

Thoughts on DNP?

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great for killing yourself

Not worth it, you have to drink 4-6L of water a day and you can't eat carbs or you overheat. Also makes you sweat a lot, you can't leave your house.

>you have to drink 4-6L of water a day
I tought those memes died.

Used it back in 2013. You lose weight but it’s generally nothing you can’t achieve without diet. I wish I would have tried cutting the regular way first. It makes you generally not feel so well. It would be much easier to just play an hour of squash and not eat a lot to lose weight just as fast, unless you’re on a high dose. At that point, it gets more dangerous and you shouldn’t do that without trying a lower dose first. All in all, 5/10, it certainly works but the drawbacks make it not that attractive or really that uniquely good for losing weight. Will answer 1 or 2 questions.

Water fasting is faster and safer.

No, water fasting is more dangerous usually.

This. I used it in college to shed weight rapidly, and it just isn't worth it. You need to drink so much water that you're constantly needing to run to the bathroom and piss. All your shit turns yellowish and it's loose and diarrhea-like. In the summer you feel like you're going to die and in the winter you have that awful combination of being cold AND sweating, so that the pool of sweat you're sleeping in feels like ice. You also feel absolutely lethargic to the point where even doing something as passive as watching TV or playing a video game to pass the time just feels infeasible. The hunger cravings are also worse than normal cutting because a massive deficit is still a massive deficit, but you also want to hold off on eating because as soon as you start digesting food, the heat cranks up even worse. At the same time, when you take DNP it's extremely irritating to your gastric lining and you're going to have to resist vomiting it all back up for a 60-90 minutes after taking it, during which time you have to chug something like diet ginger ale in a feeble attempt to get your stomach to calm down.

I still have a fuckton left over because I just bought it as a straight-up kilo block from the chinks, but I'm not going to be using it again. It's just not worth it. Just have patience and do a normal cut.

Its my idea or every retard here likes to do high dose cycles instead of low dose ones?

Did it one year for cutting. Far more miserable than fasting, and just as effective.

Define high vs low dose.

Eye cataracts no matter the dose

200 mg max at day, in six weeks cycle.
Eye caratacts are a rare side effect. You will have more luck getting positive news about Trump in TV.

How much weight did you lose in how much time? This seems painful and if you eat nothing but 200g of protein a day, you will lose somewhere in the neighborhood of 2kg/4.4lb.

Not him, but I was losing about a pound per day.

What was your starting weight?
If you have less than 25% of fat, one pound per day is pretty sweet.

Sorry. I forgot to add 2kg of fat per week.

Demn, that's massive.

210lbs down to 165lbs post-cycle (you retain water while on it, and piss away some more at the end).

>Demn, that's massive.
Indeed. Fasting is roughly equivalent though, and less miserable, and also free.

And what was your actual weight?
Just kidding. That's neat.
What was the amount of time you did that cycle?
Fasting doesn't have the protein-sparing effects of DNP, though.

6 weeks 45lbs? Jesus, I can't even imagine doing that for 6 weeks.

By description it feels like going through chemotherapy.

This was a while back, so I'm a bit fuzzy on the numbers. I'd do it for like 3 weeks and lost 15 lbs or so, eating somewhere between 1500-1800 kcal/day. Might've lost more weight than that actually because you get water bloat on the stuff too.

you didn't answer my question though.

read the sticky

>you didn't answer my question though.
Literally that's considered a "low dose" DNP usage, retard. Historically, DNP users always championed high as fuck doses starting at 400 mg at bare minimum. It was not usual to see idiots dosing at 600 or even reaching 1000 mg

I wasn't throwing up all the time, so that was at least nice. I wouldn't do it again, though.

lrn2english. I said what constitutes high vs low dose. you gave a single dosage without specifying. Now that you've answered the full question, I have a better idea of your personal definitions.

Have you tried taking a really small amount? Something like 50-100mg? I guess it still has to have some effect just a lot less with a lot less side effects.

Russian roulette, you fucking burger. Go out and put in some real work

As long as you're not retarded it isn't too bad and you'll get decent results. With cardio I could lose a pound a day, though would be absolutely drenched in sweat and had to be careful with my water and electrolyte intakes. With 500mg a day you can easily lose 10-15 lbs on your typical 3 week cycle even without cardio if you don't eat too poorly. Did crave carbs and sugars like a motherfucker, but the occasional indulgence didn't hurt progress. Wasn't as miserable as some have said but still not fun times. I still have 1 3 week cycle worth of it in my cupboard, not sure when/if I'll take it.

In order to use it you basically either have to be a NEET or schedule it for your christmas break if you're in college. Having any sort of social life, going to classes, ESPECIALLY going to a job is going to be fucking hell, especially at higher doses. Effects scale mostly linearly, as do the side effects, so it's up to you whether to go high and feel like shit or do a lower dose but get less fatloss. Personally the way I see it, you're still going to feel like shit on a low dose, so you might as well just go through hell and lose more weight. At a lower dose you feel somewhat better, but at that point you might as well just cut the natty way in the first place and not fuck around with this poison

Also don't go beyond 3-4 weeks or the likelihood of developing (temporary) peripheral neuropathy increases. You should be taking NAC during the time to help mitigate that possible adverse effect regardless.

the carb cravings are fucking hell because you can't take your mind off them, but at the same time you know that you're going to feel like a furnace if you eat them.

Head over to /fast/ sometime. Fasting does indeed have muscle sparing effects without ingesting pesticide.

>lrn2english
>he can't read
Have a good day.

Are those effects great or negible?

>not fasting and ingesting pesticide

>NAC
Acetylcysteine?

N-Acetylcysteine, yes. Helps replenish glutathione, protect against liver damage, shit like that.

Much less effect. I was on about 500mg

500 mg is pretty "high" IMO. The best results without sides are get in 250 mg. That's what's reported in Lyle McDogFucker forums.

Back in the day on Jow Forums, 500mg was considered low lmao. There were guys running 1g

>4-6 liters is a lot

No it wasn't. It was generally considered that 1g was RIP-tier and you were correctly labeled an absolute madman for doing that. Quit this revisionist shit.

Yes, because in the 80's and 90's the guys where running at 600 minimum heh. Even some heavy guys where running at 1 g.

I don't know fag measurements, but I was probably drinking at least 4 cups every hour, so do the math on that.

All these morons
Use it with eca stack and you will barely have any sides at all

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>implying that eca can get the same results
>implying that eca doesn't have their own issues

It’s a gallon and a half

>amerimutts in charge of utilizing non-el-goblino measurements systems

>using eca and dnp

holy fucking no you'd get a heart attack

>holy fucking no you'd get a heart attack
Why?

>Putting harsh chemicals into your body that your body does not need to survive or was ever designed/had evolved to use

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I bet you're one of those guys that eat only concepts and ideas.

are you kidding me? dnp, ephedrine, and caffeine are all stimulants which work by increasing your heart rate and constricting your blood vessels. one or two of them might be ok, but all three? you're asking for ventricle-snap city

tried it, it's effective, but not worth it

Don’t listen to these morons op
Dnp and Eca are synergetic
Eca suppresses the hunger and keeps your energy levels up
I ran my last dnp cycle like this with great results
Do a google search on using both, its common on serious bodybullding forums

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>dnp is a stimulant
DNP isn't a stimulant, your mongrel. DNP actues at mitochondrial level. It doesn't do shit a neurological level. It doesn't even increase blood pressure a bit, it even reduces it.
DNP is pretty safe for obese people even.

Best fat burner I have used. Just be ready to wake up in a pool of sweat and be lethargic and tired all day

I'm not saying that ECA is dangerous, but it has also their drawbacks. An advantage of DNP is the fact that doesn't increase heart rate or blood pressure.

No your not you fucking moron who’s never even heard of this until today

worked for me, wait until winter to do it tho

makes your cum look like lemon lime Gatorade. i imagine it tasted pretty bad

Just water fast, asshole. Better than any drug

Is fasting the new Jow Forums meme?

>Jow Forums
FTFM. I'm a moron.