What's the point of gymceling?

what's the point of gymceling?
why don't you get into martial arts instead?

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I found judo to be a bit of both, especially competitively

Because I have guns.

Because there's practically zero chance you get into an unavoidable fight in your life unless you live in the middle of detroit or are a barfag, plus it's more likely you'll get attacked being looking like a boxer than if you were jacked. Only the retards who hypothesize about fight scenarios all day waste hundreds of dollars a month to get martial arts training

wait its a turtle because lifters have high armor????

And have no agility ;)

Why not both?

str > dex, gtfo rogue twink

because even 95% of people who do martial arts will never have to use them in their lives

>saps you

I gymceled for about three years to fix myself from my atrocious childhood and adolescence. Then I started with muay thai, which kept me for about the same time. Then I went military. After that I become lazy as fuck, doing two years literally nothing. Tomorrow I'm hitting gym after all these years again. Gym is just comfy, you can enjoy that "meditative" state. MT is great, love the sport, but not that comfy.

>"""martial art""" mcdojo fags
only thing that might give you some help is boxing but even then there's a reason weight classes exist. unless your name is mike tyson you're gonna get fucking jobbed instantly

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>plus it's more likely you'll get attacked being looking like a boxer than if you were jacked.
Actually in reality, jacked guys get attacked way more as they are seen as a threat. A barfag's friends would think he's a pussy if he attacked a small guy, but if he attacks a big guy and wins he gets street cred.

Source: Meditations on Violence by Rory Miller

All these faggots dont realize you can do both

>A barfag's friends would think he's a pussy if he attacked a small guy, but if he attacks a big guy and wins he gets street cred.
This is true. But wrestling or judo is much better than boxing.

This, that's what I do. Mainly because both are fun.

What a load of mongoloid crap. Thai/kick boxing, BJJ, MMA are all extremely valid options. Classic boxing is pretty good too. Especially muay thai is quick-learning, you can be pretty proficient in about 6 months or even earlier. I can guarantee that alone will put you above 85% of population, no matter their weight. Not knowing how to fight is literally the same as writing SISSY DISGRACE on your forehead.

Also bigger guys tend to get too ballsy, usually in relation with wooing some female in their vicinity.

>judo or wrestling better than boxing
No, no it is not.

t. exbouncer.

ok what's your height and weight?
also what martial art experience do you have as well as how many fights have you been in?
in those fights/ broken up fights what martial art did you use?

I’m not poor nor do I have ghetto friends. Is this really a thing with poor people?

Jacked big guys always get jumped first specially if they're around women

It's not really that common in good areas, but when problems do happen (mostly in bars), that's generally how it goes. Like this phaggot who picked a fight with Matt Serra. Literally chose the most jacked guy in the room who also happens to be an MMA fighter.
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>judo or wrestling better than boxing
>No, no it is not.

Im from a thirdworld country and have been in and watched several serious streetfights.

Here is the truth about judo vs boxing in streetfights:

- If you punch a guy, he is hurt and bleed. He will want to take revenge. So if you live in my country, you'd better watch your back all the time because there would be someone who wants to stab you all the time.

- If you throw or take down and submit a guy then tell him you dont want to fight anymore, he will secretly admit that he lose but he wont be vengeful. So you will have peace afterward.

The trick about judo or wrestling is that it allows you to save 'face' for your opponents. Nobody wants to be involved in a dangerous fight after all, but if he loses 'face', he will become very hostile. If you punch a guy, he will always want to hurt you back.

185cm/90kg. Three years muay thai with few classes of bjj in between, because the worst situation you can get it is being on the ground. Especially if there are more people around. You generally want to avoid anything other than striking while keeping your distance as much as possible. Hence viability of MT.

I don't really know how many fights. You usually don't get into many typical "fights", you usually either break people away or just literally slap your way around, since directly punching inexperienced people can prove to be very dangerous to your well-being regarding law in my country. Other than that it is always striking, keeping your distance and always be vary of your environment, because there are always friends of the guy and you never know when they join up. That is also the reason why you don't want to overblow it and start swinging right away. Also women are worst, not even memeing here. They think and know you can't return the violence, so they are usually the most vicious. Throwing stuff at you, bottles, dousing you with drinks. I did punched few of them to be honest.

It is very rare to face only one opponent. Anything which takes more time than a striking move is time you are endangering yourself. If you are locking some guy down with some wrestling or judo or whatever, his friends will kick you in the head. I think you are seeing it too romantically here.

Peace is the best martial art, honestly be friendly and have a backbone and you'll not see a lick of trouble.

Respect for 'lose w/ dignity' tactic, beat an opponent without embarrassing him and the feud will end there. Going for a vicious knockout or going overboard will get you either arrested or there opponent will come for revenge.

This is bullshit
Im jacked on tren/test and been clubbing for years, not to mention a couple stints in county jails from California to Texas.
In clubs no one has ever tried to fight me, usually they aplogise profusely to me if they bump into me
In jail all the inmates feared me and usually wanted to workout with me
>laying in bunk reading book
>inmate somewhere behind is making a commotion
>hugefat cholo gangbanger with tatts all over his face yells at the inmate to shut up
>Glance up at huge cholo to see why he’s yelling
>”oh no, not you”
>inmates always asking me to do the “beach pose”

If you look jacked and hardened almost no one wants to fuck with you

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>If you are locking some guy down with some wrestling or judo or whatever, his friends will kick you in the head.
This is such a falacy and one spouted throughout martial arts but i don't believe it for a second.

I've been headbutt hard enough to get a permanent dent in my forehead and thank for to good footwork I didn't even get knocked back out of stance. I've also been thrown on country and altho I could keep fighting my position was fucked and the fight was all but over.

More importantly have thrown fuckers as quickly and causing more damage than I could ever punch them. Good kicks I'll concede.

>and thank for to good footwork I didn't even get knocked back out of stance
Clearly I was still brain damaged but it didn't end the fight is my point. Actually i didn't impair my fighting ability seemingly at all until adrenaline dropped.

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>This is such a falacy
No, no it is not. Can't really give experience.

If you're a good wrestler let alone a Judoka you won't be the one with his head on the ground.

Both are about being the last one standing. Don't be fooled when tournament bouts go to the ground for a long time you're average shitheel in the street drops fast and permanently.

When you are subduing some dude and two+ of his friends are standing around, the moment you drop down the guy on the floor and some of his bros get the idea, you will get fucked no matter how good "wrestler" or "judoka" you are, user. There is only as much as you can go against more people, especially if you are in the worst possible setting; your head on level with their legs and knees. Why the fuck do you think police works in teams and one is subduing and others are guarding? And it still sometimes happens.

This is true seen a super jacked bouncer get fucked up pretty bad by a group of guys after taking one to the ground for trying to swing on him

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Manlet spotted.

Everyone can only fight one opponent at a time. It's the same with boxers. What is with MT/BJJ guys that they feel their cult meme arts are the be all and end all. If you're judging all grappling arts on BJJ i can see your problem.

The best boxer in the world can't fight a guy 3 + guys all at once anymore than the best wrestlers and Judoka's. Footwork and positioning keeps you fighting one at a time no matter how many there are.

You fuck up the first guy his mates keep their distance. It's not always the case ofcourse but generally its true.

Police are a bad example because they legally can't get away with properly fighting people and I train with Riot Police who can kick to their hearts content.

I-is this for real?

Could we say that only "non martial arts trained" athletes that could give problems to most of martial arts guys are the pro rugby players?

They are the perfect balance between size and speed. They have good stamina and they're literally trained to tackle down people.

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Maybe. But technique destroys everything.

Train this guy 4 weeks of boxing and he'll obliterate muh technique 5'10 fags guaranteed.
Remember theres no rules in a fight, this isnt your LARP "sport".

I have a gun tho

2pbp

Attack me for no reason and ill shoot your ass with no legal consequences

ha he takes roids. lel what a fag

>three years Muay Thai
Ok thanks so now we all know that you’re a fucking scrub who has no place talking about anything related to martial arts.
>talking shit about grappling when he trains Muay Thai, the art of getting taken down
As a wrestler, I could dump you on your head as soon as you let me clinch up with you

I've only every weight lifted and never done martial arts or anything fighting technique related besides a few boxing classes. It seems pretty obvious someone relatively stronger can take on anyone even with just "technique".

Stenght + technique is better. Stronger/bigger = gas out easy, slow.

You can only shoot one person at a time also. I have seen boxers mess up 3-4 untrained dude quick.

Dude was under staffed. You should have back up if you are controling some one. Jujitsu is a back up weapon art. Disarm or kill one dude, take his weapon kill the rest.

Jujitsu is a back up weapon art.
Kill or disarm a dude. Take his weapon, go to town on the other people.

Till you get tested.

Nope

Based

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>you can only shoot one person at a time
>seen boxers fuck up 3 or 4 untrained fuckfaces

guess how i know you don't know shit about gunfighting

Because American martial arts schools are beyond shit, they treat it like a sport and you're lucky if you learn anything of worth.

because getting my head banged up repeatedly is not good for my brain. also, no functioning adult gets in fucking fist fights lol. the only people who think about fighting are fucking insecure

>You can only shoot one person at a time also. I have seen boxers mess up 3-4 untrained dude quick.
lol did you seriously say its easier to box 3 people than to shoot them?

>shoots double leg

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*teleports behind you*
*stels your guns*
OwO *double leg takedown you*

Thanks for the book recommendation. I've always thought along the lines of offenders looking for easy victims (just as in nature, predators seek easier prey to avoid being injured). Though, the game certainly changes in bars and other social situations.

Lmao what mma/boxer kiddies who watched Undisputed once unironically think, meanwhile in the real world pic related

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I know how to shoot. Check-mate martial-cel

It's almost like extra muscle mass helps you in fight. Who would have thought?

it doesn't though you fightlet

>implying anyone can face Brock Lesnar before he got the illness.

Greco roman > Judo

>implying you take martial arts for self defense instead of provoking friendly brawls
maximum faggotry

wrong - maybe manlets do. But if you're tall and actually jacked like me you get respected.

why only 3 years?

>I have guns
>The boxer has guns too
>Fight comes down to who has the faster draw
>You get your ass gunned down because the boxer is faster and has better reaction times

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>but if you're tall and actually jacked like me you get respected.

reading that actually made me sad. im sorry for your cope user

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you are the only one coping here for your shit physique manlet
6'5" 230 with abs and 18.5" arms doesn't get shit, only small manlets do. You're not as big as you think you are, otherwise you wouldn't get stress from dyels

>implying you wouldn't get a knee to the face if you tried to do a takedown

>You can only shoot one person at a time

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>those nipples

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