Is BMI a meme?

BMI charts are all about statistical averages and not outliers like anyone even remotely athletic. If for instance you take an American Football linebacker and apply the BMI chart to him he'll come out as morbidly obese when in fact he's a mountain of muscle with healthy bodyfat percentage.

Ignore BMI charts. Use hydrostatic weighing, or DXA scans, or even expertly-applied skin calipers to determine bodyfat percentage instead. BMI charts are garbage.

I highly disbelieve that someone being zero muscle, zero fat at BMI of 19-22 is healthier than someone who is lean and has enough muscle to get a BMI of around 32

You're talking out of your ass, stop that.

It's long-standing scientific consensus that has also been confirmed in recent analyses. BMI is a better predictor for health risks than body fat mass, body fat percentage, or FFMI.

Several important studies are linked and summarized here
carbsanity.blogspot.com/2017/12/high-bmi-and-risk-of-cardiovascular_7.html

And no, being overweight at low body fat is not healthy at all, it increases your risk of cardiovascular disease.

Not a single person here cares that being fat is more "healthy" than being shredded even if its unironically backed by science holy fuck where do you think you are

>BMI is a better predictor for health risks than body fat mass
FOR AVERAGE PEOPLE, NOT ATHLETES AT ANY LEVEL OR ANYONE DOING BODYBUILDING-LIKE TRAINING.

You're talking out of your ass, knock it off.

Athletes and bodybuilders have horrific health risks, user.

Wrong forum

BMI is useful for significantly underweight or overweight people

>Waist measures in at 37.5"
>at 5'8"
I'm 6'1", never went below 30 BMI in the last 3 years and my waist is 37.5"

it's not normal, it's what average was like 30 years back whenthey did this shit. The most healthy range for men is prolly somewhere around 10-15%(some variance depending on bodytype)

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Do you cunts need a reminder that this used to be called "Jow Forums-health and fitness" and got changed to "Jow Forums-fitness" good few years ago for a fucking reason

BMI has far far more false negatives than false positives.

post body

Seems like I had some luck with genetics at least somewhere :D

at 5'8 275 you're delusional if you think you're not obese unless you're Dorian Yates

First you need to stop making excuses and start doing cardio fatass

BMI is decent when applied to an overall population because the vast majority of people do not have high lean body mass. This makes it okay for things like overall epidemiological data. It just shouldn't be applied on an individual basis when you obviously have someone who's athletic. Technically I have a BMI of 28 but my doctor/nurse has never said "user you need to lose weight!" because they can take one look at me and clearly see that BMI doesn't apply.

The thing is that BMI is really easy to calculate. All you need is height and weight. It's a lot more of a pain in the ass to estimate something like BF% with calipers across the board, and it's not worth it except in those instances with people with lots of muscle.

BMI works well enough if you don't lift, if you have above average muscles then it starts getting wonky, everyone knows this

Just kys and get over with it

first you need to eat less you fat lazy shitter

from 2016 when I was at 250lbs. Currently no mirror

Every fucking time we have a thread like this you come in here and spout this bullshit. Show me a study that accounts for body composition that says that a lean athletic guy at low BF% is at increased risk.

And don't fucking show me some shit data from bodybuilders roided to the gills and with 30 lb hearts from HGH. Show me some actual applicable data on someone with an athletic lean body being worse off compared to a sedentary twig of the same BF%

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this. 70% of people here dont give a shit about actual long term health

If u are overweight by bmi but have visible abs you have made it, and should post body in this thread.

24.2 BMI @ 12% BF here, still a twink but hopeful for next year

Yeah, the ones who aren't natty and injecting themselves with all sorts of shit to maintain 300 lbs of lean body mass. We're talking about normal natty guys lifting weights in the gym

you're a fat fuck. Your BMI is high, lose some weight and get healthy.
>b-bmi is a meme guys, healthy at all sizes

Normal meaning average and somewhat healthy I guess. Until you're in your 30s the ideal is 12% or less

I never stated I wasn't fat. I just stated that I'm not obese class 3 and that's what my doctor just told me as he measured my 120/80 blood pressure

>14-17% lean
I'm at 16 and I don't feel or look lean I look like a disgusting fat body.

That's dysmorphophobia

I'm 27.2 at 195 lbs 5ft 11in. I have like a 33in waist. BMI is pretty useless when you have above average muscle mass.

Extra bulk, lean or not, will stress and strain your deep tissue. In this respect, even too much mass has a cost.

You are morbidly obese m8. You need to lose Like 130 pounds.

no, its just shit measurement

BMI is a meaningful yardstick for the overwhelming majority of people who aren't years deep into serious training. Chubby fucks ITT are delusional.

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It’s harder on your body to carry that much mass. You might not be carrying around disgusting visceral fat but you’re still doing a number on your heart. Why do you think body builders all die so young?

this, take "health" advice that has nothing to do with working out to Jow Forums or wherever the fuck else

You look obese in that photo if you are wondering

like 50% of obese people (by body fat %) aren't recognised as such by bmi, it's completly worthless

>tfw 17.5

To be fair, 20% isn't the ideal "lean" body many people desire. If you're 20%, you are a bit fat, but not so much that your health would be worsened by it.

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Nice delusion there bud

no you mong, have you even looked at the bmi scale? or maybe you just confuse skinny fat with obese, obese has an actual meaning

Dude you’re fucking death fat
Lose 150 pounds idiot. Stop lying to yours self

125lbs is the weight of a woman my size

You are 5’8. You are the height of a woman

yep, overweight and 8%bf here

It's only a meme if you're actually muscular and have below a 10% body fat so that your total weight is negligibly influenced by fat.

Otherwise you're literally a fat shit.
12% of 200 lbs is still 24 fucking pounds of fat.

In the 2000s it wasn't uncommon for a young teenager to be 15% body fat and drop a little more fat once they went through puberty and started gaining some muscle.

We've literally fallen that low as a society.

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